7 - 8 September 2013
Every two years, the Oldtimer-Fliegertreffen is organised at the grass airfield popularly known as the ‘Hahnweide’ in |
Kirchheim unter Teck, near Stuttgart in southern Germany. Dubbed ‘OTT13’ by the organisation, last year’s edition was |
held from 6 until 8 September 2013. It may be less well known that OTT13 was already the 17th of its kind in a row. Still |
organised by the original volunteer group of Helfern der Fliegergruppe Wolf Hirth, the OTT has not missed its two-year slot |
since the first edition in 1981. The first weekend of September has become the fixed date, so mark your organiser for |
2015 while we look back at the 2013 edition. |
What to expect | |||
The first place to notice the level of experience in the seasoned organisation is its website www.oldtimer-hahnweide. |
de. This includes about all the information one could wish for, from a general description of the event to a portal for |
participating pilots. Photos, maps and directions, webcams, where to stay - it is all there. The obvious participants list is |
not only continuously updated as the event nears, it can also be sorted on fields like aircraft type, registration, home base |
and more. To top it off, the list contains links to detail pages for many of the individual aircraft. |
At the Hahnweide, parking space is ample despite the advice to use public transport if possible. Tickets can be acquired in |
various ways and combinations, fitting different needs. If anything could be up for improvement, it is perhaps the catering. |
Last year, there were many options to buy food and drink on the airfield, but their capacity sometimes lagged behind the |
demand during the event. Quality varied from sufficient to good though, and the service was always friendly. |
But what it is all about of course, is indulging oneself in the classic aeroplanes. The airfield is open to the public on Friday, |
Saturday and Sunday with Friday being the arrival day and the weekend filled by the main show days. On Friday night, |
the flightline is lighted for all admirers from 20:30 to 21:00LT, followed by a ‘Fliegerparty’ for the participants. Both on Saturday |
and Sunday, the airfield opens as early as 07:30LT to the audience and everyone is free to wander about, including |
over the runway and between the remotely parked aircraft. Many pilots will already be preparing their planes for the day |
at that time, while others can still be found snoring in a tent under the wing - certainly as a result of the Fliegerparty! By |
09:00LT the crowd is kindly requested to retreat behind the fences, so the flying can begin. |
Last event’s action | |||
A theme for the Oldtimer-Fliegertreffen has become to have as large a formation of Junkers Ju-52s as possible over the |
airfield. This time the count got to five, when the four Ju-Air machines HB-HOP, HB-HOS, HB-HOT and HB-HOY were joined |
by Lufthansa Traditionsflug’s D-CDLH (marked as D-AQUI) on Friday. Unfortunately for many spectators, all but HB-HOS |
had to leave again the same day. With only HB-HOP returning on Saturday, that left two “Tante Ju’s” for the weekend. This |
made them easily the largest aircraft on the ground. Previous OTTs have seen more birds of that size like a B-17, B-25, DC-3, |
Li-2 or PBY-5A but non of those were attending in 2013. |
Nevertheless, size is not all that matters and the abundance of often rare aircraft, all in flying condition, made the meeting |
to a success once again. From the light whirr of the original 1918 Blériot to the thundering 2500hp of the 18-cylinder Sea |
Fury engine, there was something for everyone interested in aviation oldtimers. Most obvious is that OTT is about flying |
these machines, not just keeping them. Airplanes usually only seen in musea (if at all) are flown to the Hahnweide, |
made accessible to the audience, polished, fueled and flown. |
The flying action is a mix of loose formations, solo demonstrations, aerobatics and the odd team display, interspersed |
with continuous flightseeing by the larger passenger-carrying aircraft. On Saturday no less than eight different An-2s |
could be seen. On both weekend days four De Havillands - a Dragon, Dragon Rapide and two Doves - were chasing each |
other in the air. Many interesting combinations could be noted like a Nord 1101 Noralpha taking off in formation |
with a Messerschmidt BF-108 Taifun, the model from which it was developed. An Ernst Udet Flamingo (albeit a replica) |
and Polikarpov Po-2 were towing classic gliders and a PZL Kruk and Dromader Mini gave combined crop dusting demonstrations. |
And how often can one enjoy the gathering of so many vintage and classic commercial aircraft, next to the |
warbirds? A Curtiss Robin, two Travel Airs, two Wacos, a Stinson Reliant, Beech Staggerwing and Twin Bonanza definitely |
make up a very special mix of living aviation history. |
Apart from the Blériot, the Robin and Travel Airs were the oldest aircraft present by the way, having been built in 1929! |
Add to all these gems a long weekend with mainly warm and dry autumn weather, and it will be evident that the |
2013 edition of ‘Hahnweide’ was again a success. The following log was compiled from Saturday morning until Sunday |
afternoon. |
Kirchheim unter Teck 7-8 September 2013 | |||
In this overview, the operator column gives colour schemes or titles as visibly worn, often not those of the current (official) |
operator or owner. Noted in the last column are remarks, genuine former identifications (between brackets if not displayed), |
fake ID’s with single quotes and names with double quotes. Not noted are many less exotic aircraft, up to Bo207. |
Static: | |||
D-EBED | Saab 91B | Lufthansa Flight Training |
D-EBHJ | SV-4C |
D-EBHL | SV-4C |
D-EBSH | SV-4C |
D-EBUZ | PA-18-150 |
D-EDWJ | C1-131E | (E.3B-453) |
D-EIWW | C1-131E | Ejército | E.3B-432 |
D-EJOL | Klemm L25 |
D-EKYF | Bü-181B-1 |
D-EMDV | N2S-2 |
D-EOMM | Bü-131 |
D-EORX | DH82A | G-AORX |
D-EQXL | PT-17 | US Navy | ‘N2S-3 4317/787’ |
D-FHGV | Super Six |
F-AZLO | Chipmunk T10 | RAF | WG479/F |
F-AZQM | Chipmunk T10 | RAF | WP840/9 |
G-CDRU | C1-131E |
G-TPWX | Gomhouria Mk6 | Luftwaffe | ‘Bü-181 TP+WX’ |
HB-OBF | L-4B |
HB-UAF | Praga E114M |
HB-UPM | DH-82A |
HB-YKQ | Slepcev Storch |
N25Y | P-38L | Flying Bulls | (44-53254) |
N69H | Beech D17S |
N2361 | SA.300 |
N5345N | PT-13D | USAAF | ‘42-17555/718’ |
N5729N | N2S-5 |
NC8877 | Travel Air 2000 | Pacific Air Transport | Air Mail |
NC13050 | Waco UEC |
N46502 | PT-22 | USAAF |
N50429/39 | PT-19B | USAAF | ‘42-34539’ |
N54945/945 | PT-17D | (USAF star) |
OE-AAA | PA-12 | “Don’t Panic” |
OE-ACS | T-131PA |
OE-APS | T-131PA |
OE-APY | T-131PA |
OE-CGH/118 | T-131PA |
SE-BGA | Klemm 35D |
SE-BPU/174 | Klemm 35D | F5 Swedish AF |
This line-up is not everywhere as organised as a standard ‘static display’ is. It is more of a loosely parked, sometimes |
double, line of aircraft along runway 13/31 which the spectators can approach to touching distance. Add to this the fact |
one faces the sun a major part of the day and it will be clear that photography is a challenge here most of the time. The |
scene itself is fascinating though and worth taking in. |
Red Bull’s P-38 Lightning was damaged after giving a display on Friday evening, when the right tail struck the ground |
while manoeuvring on the grass. This left the ‘fork-tailed devil’ stationary for the rest of the event. Both Swedish |
Klemms left early Sunday morning, presumably for the long trip back home. |
CASA 1-131s are Spanish-built versions of the Bücker 131 Jungmann while a T-131 is a Polish variation. N2S’ and PT-17s |
are among the many Stearman/Kaydet variations. Klemm 25 D-EJOL is a rare low-wing monoplane with open tandem |
seating, that flew again for the first time after 28 years in April 2013. Dressed up as a Navy trainer, PT-17 D-EQXL is really ex |
USAAF 41-0898 and also carrying registration N56457. North American Super Six D-FHGV, a modified T-6, first flew as |
such in May 2013. Piper Cub HB-OBF is officially a J-3C and Slepcev Storch HB-YKQ is a kit-built 3/4 scale version of the |
Fieseler original. N2361 is a modern aerobatic plane, a Stolp Starduster Too. Curtiss-Wright Travel Air NC8877 is marked |
C.A.M.8 on its lower tail. Piper Super Cruiser OE-AAA is an obvious predecessor to the PA-18 and wears the word ‘Panic’ |
upside down on the fuselage. |
Fying: | |||
D-EAXK/15 | EA-330LT | Camp David |
D-EAXN/08 | EA-330LT | Camp David |
D-EBEI | BF-108B1 | Lufthansa Berlin |
D-EBSH | SV-4C |
D-EELE | C1-131E | re-engined |
D-EFTJ | Fokker DR.1 | Luftwaffe | replica |
D-EGXY | SV-4 | Armée de l’Air | ‘651’ |
D-EMOF | FW-44 |
D-ENUT | PA-18 |
D-EOSC | Udet U12K | OSC Wasserkuppe | replica |
D-EWXA | Z-526ASM |
D-EYBH | Yak-18T | Total |
D-FKME | An-2T | Donau Air Service |
D-FOAB | PZL106AR | Interflug | DDR-TAB |
D-FWJM | An-2TD | Deutsches Museum |
D-EBFW | BF108B1 | ‘D-IBFW’ |
D-IFSA # | DH104 |
D-ILIT | DH89A | Fliegend. Mus. Grossenhain |
D-INKA # | DH104 | LTU |
D-IRES | Do28D-2 | MFG | 59+11 |
EI-ABI | DH84 | Aer Lingus | “Iolar” |
F-AZHK | AD-4NA | AdlA | 127002/20-LN |
F-AZKG | Fennec | Armée de l’Air | 82 |
F-AZKU | P-40N | USAAF | 42-105915/12 |
F-AZNN | Let C11 | Normandie-N. | “14” white |
F-AZSB | P-51D | USAAF | ‘44-11622/C-G4’ |
F-AZXJ | Sea Fury FB11 | RAN | ‘WH589/NW-115’ |
F-GIBN | MH1521M | Armée de l’Air | 261/30-QA |
F-GMCY | N1101 | Armée de l’Air | 67/CY |
G-HHII | Hurricane 2B | RAF | ‘BE505/XP-L’ |
HB-HOP | Ju-52/3m-g4e | Ju-Air/Falken |
HB-HOS | Ju-52/3m-g4e | Ju-Air/IWC |
HB-RBN # | P3-03 | P3 Flyers/Swiss AF | A-813 |
HB-RBP # | P3-05 | P3 Flyers/Pilatus |
HB-RCF | D-3801 | Swiss AF | J-143 |
HB-RCH # | P3-05 | P3 Flyers/Swiss AF | A-818 |
HB-RCL # | P3-05 | P3 Flyers/Swiss AF | A-873 |
HB-RDB | C3605 | Swiss AF | C-494 |
HB-RDG | TBM3E | USMC | 53319/19 |
HB-TRQ | Z-526ASM |
LY-TOY | Yak-55 |
NC292E | Robin J-1 |
N540MD | Edge 540 | Flying Bulls/Total |
NC645H | Travel Air E4000 | Fly with the Barnstormer |
N6593D | T-6G | USN | /FU-18/HS |
NC17360 | Ryan ST-A Sp. |
NC18442 | Reliant SR-9C | Gullwing Airlines |
N50429 | PT-19B | USAAF | 42-34539/39 |
N67193/399 | PT-17 | USN | as N2S-5 “Hell Bitch” |
OE-EAS/RB-37 | 37 F4U-4 | Flying Bulls/USN |
OK-HFL # | An-2R | Heritage of Flying Legends |
OK-LKN | L-60 | Czech AF |
OK-WHB # | An-2T | Aeroklub Plasy | ‘8555’ |
OK-XIG # | An-2T | Heritage of Flying Legends |
OK-XRA | Z-50 | Flying Bulls |
OK-XRB | Z-50 | Flying Bulls |
OK-XRC | Z-50 | Flying Bulls |
OK-XRD | Z-50 | Flying Bulls |
(SE-XMC) | Blériot XI |
(SE-XVO) | Fokker D.VII | Luftwaffe | partly replica |
SP-YFK | PZL M21 |
Aircraft marked # were parked on the western flight line along runway 07/25, the rest on the static display/northern |
flight line. Most of the larger flying aircraft were engaged in pleasure flights. |
FW-44 Stieglitz D-EMOF was built in Sweden in 1937, as an Sk12. PZL106 Kruk D-FOAB, in its Interflug colours marked |
DDR-TAB, used to be a unique twin-stick conversion with a bubble canopy in front of the regular cockpit. After an |
accident in 2011 it was rebuilt as a single-seater, with full crop dusting gear. BF-108 D-EBFW is another 1937 machine, |
making it the oldest flying Taifun worldwide. DH104 D-INKA actually flew as such for LTU and is the only Dove in the world |
with a license for commercial flying. |
P-51 Mustang F-AZSB is really 44-74427 and called “Nooky Booky IV”. Sea Fury F-AZXJ was originally registered as 316 |
with the Iraqi Air Force and ‘Hurribomber’ (the fighterbomber version) G-HHII is the original BE421. The type of |
HB-RCF, D-3801, is the Swiss license-built version of the Morane-Saulnier MS412 with its origin in the 1938 MS405. |
Listed a bit further down is the all-Swiss product C3605 ‘Schlepp’, an oddity at Hahnweide in all respects with its |
huge nose containing the turbine engine. Avenger HB-RDG is the well-known “Charlie’s Heavy”. |
SE-XMC, not marked as such, is one of Mikael Carlson’s genuine Blériots (built in Sweden as Thulin A) with c/n 82-748. |
This aircraft replaced the planned SE-AMZ that was damaged in an emergency landing in Switzerland the weekend before, |
also piloted by mr. Carlson. This true aviation person was not to be intimidated and ‘simply’ drove an extra 2000 kilometers |
to display a Blériot at the Hahnweide, as promised. Last on this part of the list, the PZL M21 Dromader Mini is as |
unique as the other PZL product mentioned above. Just two prototypes were built of the scaled-down version of the M18 |
Dromader and this is the only airworthy one. In 2008, this airframe had been nothing more for years than an eyecatcher |
in rather poor state at a German industrial estate. After that it changed hands through eBay, intended for the same use at |
a playground. However, the new owner realised what he had actually bought, and the former SP-PDN was brought back to |
a splendid flying state. |
Flying Saturday only: | |||
D-EFJR | C1-131E | ‘JR’ | (E.3B-456) |
D-EZOR | MS317 | Armée de l’Air | 279/IU |
HB-UPR | SV-4A |
These three departed on Sunday morning. 1938 MS317 D-EZOR was restored to its original colours in Belgium in |
2000, and back to flying condition in 2008 after some museum time. |
Flying Sunday only: | |||
D-ECIH | Klemm 107C |
HA-PAO | Po-2 | Goldtimer |
N6328T | P-51D | USAAF | 44-73254/B7-R/H |
NC16512 | Waco YKS-6 | Deutsches Museum |
The Polikarpov, towing gliders on Sunday, was tucked away in the hangar on Saturday. The airplane was built in Poland |
in 1954, under Russian license. The silver and blue-coloured Mustang is named “Louisiana Kid”. The Waco is another |
original 1930s airplane, an ambulance version that worked as such in Alaska until 1989. |
Flying only: | |||
F-AZVM | N2501F-3 | F-AZVM | 105/62-SI |
F-AZZD | CM170R | F-AZZD | (411) |
F-GSYD | CM170R | F-GSYD | (455) |
The three participants closing the previous page flew on Saturday and Sunday, but did not land at the Hahnweide. The |
Noratlas was also used by parachutists. |
Flying gliders: | |||
D-1901 | Habicht E |
D-8074 | Grunau Baby 3 |
D-8180 | Minimoa Gö3 |
HA-5035 | Rubik R-11b |
HB-457 | Kranich II-B1 |
WB935 | Sedbergh TX1 RAF ‘FAir Cadets’ |
Parking south: | |||
D-EDFZ | L-18C | AG51 | (96+09) |
D-EDGN | L-18C | (96+01) |
D-EDPO | FWP149 | (91+46) |
D-EDUT | J-3C |
D-EFFB | Do27A-1 | (90+85) |
D-EFOB | Do27B-5 | Luftwaffe | 56+81 |
D-EGFR | Do27A-1 | Luftwaffe | (55+36) |
D-EGWK | FWP149 | (91+52) |
D-EIWJ | Yak-50 | (DDR-WQN) |
D-ELUM | J-3C |
D-EMEI | Z-526L |
D-EMHG | J-3C |
D-EMMY | PA-18-150 |
D-ENLH | PA-18-95 |
D-ENLM | PA-18 | Luftwaffe cross |
D-EOTK | PA-22-150 |
D-HELO | AB47G2 |
G-BAGB | SF260 |
HA-NSG/14 | Yak-52 |
HA-TRI | Z-362M |
HB-ODX | J-3C |
LY-FUN | Yak-52 |
OY-EFI | Auster Mk.5 | RAF | TW477 |
SP-YNH/812 | Yak-52 | Yak-Team Wümme |
T7-GER | Yak-52 | Yak-Team Wümme |
T7-TOY | Yak-52 |
T7-UFO | Yak-52 |
T7-XXX | Yak-52 | Yak-Team Wümme |
These aircraft were parked opposite the static display, south of the main runway. Yak-50 D-EIWJ, Agusta-Bell 47 D-HELO |
and Taylorcraft Auster OY-EFI departed on Sunday morning. Several Piper Cubs, like D-EDFZ and D-ENLH, are kept in original |
1960s state, including having no electrical system and no engine starter. The Yaks closing the list all wear military-like |
outfits. SP-YNH is called “Lucky Bee” and T7-GER bears the name “No Crow” because its colours were derived from those |
of Mustang “Old Crow”. |
Arrivals Saturday: | |||
D-EGYA | Beech C23 |
D-EIBE | Do27A-1 | Fürstenberg Fallsch.-Team |
D-EJGS | Yak-50 | Soviet star |
D-EJOG | L-40 |
D-EYEB | SM1019E | (MM57269) |
D-FAME/LE-W | Harvard IV | camo |
D-GABO | Ae145 |
N3670B | Beech B50 |
OE-AWG | T-131PA |
OK-NOR | L-40 |
OK-RKR | Z-526F |
Do27 D-EIBE is ex 56+34 and SIAI-Marchetti SM1019 D-EYEB wears Esercito colours with German civil markings. N3670B is |
the rather impressive Twin Bonanza in shiny all-metal finish. |
Saturday only: | |||
D-EBFC | L-18C | camo (53-4761) |
D-EEAZ | FWP149D | Luftwaffe | (92+25) |
D-EKMX | Z-43 | LSK | (19) |
D-ELLM | N1002 | camo |
D-EMHN | Klemm 35 |
D-EMNQ | Do27B-1 | EADS | (56+30) |
D-ENIT | PA-18-95 |
D-EOAO | FWP149D | Flieger Revu | (90+03) |
D-EOBU | FWP149D | (91+17) |
D-EOGY | Husky A-1B |
D-FWJG | An-2TD | Zinke Restaurierung |
D-IBMM | Ce310Q |
HA-ABA | An-2P | Antonov Verein Schweiz |
HB-UVF/RV | Bü-131APM | (A-80) |
N178MD/178 | PT-17 | USAAF |
OE-AHA/I.333 | T-131PA | Frecce Tricolori |
YL-LEI | An-2R | Oris |
This bunch arrived and departed on Saturday. D-ELLM represents the French version of the BF-108 and is one of the |
few flying in the world. D-EOAO has c/n 003 and is the oldest flying FWP149. N178MD is originally a US Navy trainer. |
Anotonov 2 YL-LEI started life as CCCP-62671 in 1978 with Aeroflot’s Kazakhstan division and was “17” yellow of the |
Lithuanian Air Force in the nineties, among other IDs. |
Departures Saturday: | |||
D-EDUN | PA-18-95 |
D-EGMR/2-55 | SF260 |
D-EHTW | Z-526 |
D-ESMW | PA-18-135 |
D-FHGK/15 | NA-16 | Flying Bulls |
N44JT | S-1S |
N49AE | Christen Eagle II |
N991DM | Ce337D | Flying Bulls |
OE-ALF | T-131 |
OK-DAJ | Ae145 |
Sunday only: | PC-6/B2-H4 |
D-FROH | SF260B |
N800RH |
Sunday only: | |||
D-FROH | PC-6/B2-H4 |
N800RH | SF260B |
Credits: Erik Sleutelberg
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