INTERNATIONAL SANICOLE AIRSHOW 10-11 September 2022

[michel N]

Does someone know if the F-35’s can be seen from outside the field? Not visible from inside.

Tonight 19.00 one of them will fly over Sanicole

[f4phantom]

Huey OO-DON looks inbound voor Sanicole

[57HEAVY]

The spottersday is a total rip-off.
Almost none of the foreign visitors fly during the day, only the local Belgian stuff.
When you organize an event especially for spotters, you must give them value for their money.
Now they pay 60 Euros (!) and get nothing..... (only the same loud 90s shitmusic as last year, that nobody wants to hear).

Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...

[Antoine]

The spottersday is a total rip-off.
Almost none of the foreign visitors fly during the day, only the local Belgian stuff.
When you organize an event especially for spotters, you must give them value for their money.
Now they pay 60 Euros (!) and get nothing..... (only the same loud 90s shitmusic as last year, that nobody wants to hear).

Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...

You're right indeed. Many aircraft were hidden away from the spotters last year and they didn't even bother to let those aircraft taxi along the spotters.
But now the entrance price has even been 20 Euros more than last year, with the excuse that this year you'll get foodtickets.... to make sure that the foodstands have more income.... Spotters are easy people to rip off, because they easily take the bait.

As a matter of fact:
Yesterday, local people could visit the same field for only 12 Euro (incl. 9 Euro foodtickets) and watch lots of flying foreign aircraft and today spotters must pay 60 Euros in total and most of the aircraft flying are only Belgian. So you have to pay lots more money for less interesting movements .... Logical? Next time, let the spotters also pay 12 Euros and visit the base on friday, and let local people go on the saturday instead.

[Fishbed_9307]

The spottersday is a total rip-off.
Almost none of the foreign visitors fly during the day, only the local Belgian stuff.
When you organize an event especially for spotters, you must give them value for their money.
Now they pay 60 Euros (!) and get nothing..... (only the same loud 90s shitmusic as last year, that nobody wants to hear).

Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...

You're right indeed. Many aircraft were hidden away from the spotters last year and they didn't even bother to let those aircraft taxi along the spotters.
But now the entrance price has even been 20 Euros more than last year, with the excuse that this year you'll get foodtickets.... to make sure that the foodstands have more income.... Spotters are easy people to rip off, because they easily take the bait.

As a matter of fact:
Yesterday, local people could visit the same field for only 12 Euro (incl. 9 Euro foodtickets) and watch lots of flying foreign aircraft and today spotters must pay 60 Euros in total and most of the aircraft flying are only Belgian. So you have to pay lots more money for less interesting movements .... Logical? Next time, let the spotters also pay 12 Euros and visit the base on friday, and let local people go on the saturday instead.

For god sake, stop moaning.. You could also appreciate that they take all the trouble to organize these kind of events (in the Netherlands there is nothing). True, it was disappointing that some Tigers remained out of sight last year but I understood that these units didn't get or give permission. Also note that you were allowed to return on Monday (FOR FREE) if you had a ticket for the Saturday. Also the organizing committee never knows what will show up in the end. And also true, 60 euro's is a lot of money but all prizes are skyrocketing so why would this be different?

So you are free to make the choice to attend or stay at home and go fishing or something, but please stop whining and try to motivate and appreciate the guys who are organize the spottersday. Don't take this for granted. I think the Belgian Air Force Days will be at KB again next year and I am really looking forward to their spottersday!

[Antoine]

Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...

You're right indeed. Many aircraft were hidden away from the spotters last year and they didn't even bother to let those aircraft taxi along the spotters.
But now the entrance price has even been 20 Euros more than last year, with the excuse that this year you'll get foodtickets.... to make sure that the foodstands have more income.... Spotters are easy people to rip off, because they easily take the bait.

As a matter of fact:
Yesterday, local people could visit the same field for only 12 Euro (incl. 9 Euro foodtickets) and watch lots of flying foreign aircraft and today spotters must pay 60 Euros in total and most of the aircraft flying are only Belgian. So you have to pay lots more money for less interesting movements .... Logical? Next time, let the spotters also pay 12 Euros and visit the base on friday, and let local people go on the saturday instead.

For god sake, stop moaning.. You could also appreciate that they take all the trouble to organize these kind of events (in the Netherlands there is nothing). True, it was disappointing that some Tigers remained out of sight last year but I understood that these units didn't get or give permission. Also note that you were allowed to return on Monday (FOR FREE) if you had a ticket for the Saturday. Also the organizing committee never knows what will show up in the end. And also true, 60 euro's is a lot of money but all prizes are skyrocketing so why would this be different?

So you are free to make the choice to attend or stay at home and go fishing or something, but please stop whining and try to motivate and appreciate the guys who are organize the spottersday. Don't take this for granted. I think the Belgian Air Force Days will be at KB again next year and I am really looking forward to their spottersday!

You are definitively one of those spotters, easy to rip off.
Again: local people could buy tickets for only 12 Euros (inclusive 9 euro foodtickets), why do spotters have to pay 60 Euros (for even less movements)?

[Alpha Kilo One]

I guess everyone made his or her choice.
Nobody who decided to come had a problem with paying 60 Euro.
But they did expect to get a "product" in return.
And that's where all went wrong......

[boonens]

Exactly. I think we all had a decent idea of what we would see (and not see) today, except for the unfortunate cancellations. However, if I go to an event catering specifically to spotters, organized by an experienced team and charging a fee that makes it one of the most costly events of its sort, I don't expect the majority of the aircraft to be in covers for most of the day. And I don't expect landing a/c that stop & turn before reaching the beginning of the crowdline.

[TF-104G]

Exactly. I think we all had a decent idea of what we would see (and not see) today, except for the unfortunate cancellations. However, if I go to an event catering specifically to spotters, organized by an experienced team and charging a fee that makes it one of the most costly events of its sort, I don't expect the majority of the aircraft to be in covers for most of the day. And I don't expect landing a/c that stop & turn before reaching the beginning of the crowdline.

and that the aircrafts are not always hidden in the forest where you cannot see them

[Antilliaan]

For those planning to go to Sanicole or KeeBee tomorrow, here's the schedule for Sunday 11th September. Take your pic(k)!

Read in three columns:
Hour/display duration in minutes/participant

10:00 12 Lockheed L-12 Electra
10:13 10 RDAF Baby Blue
10:24 10 German Army NH-90
10:35 5 B-25 Flying Bulls
10:41 10 ITAF T-346A
10:52 10 FAF PC-21 Mustang X-Ray
11:03 10 CZ W-3A Sokol SAR Demo
11:14 10 The Victors
11:25 7 T-6 Harvard
11:33 12 Firebirds
11:46 16 BAF NH-90 Caiman
12:03 15 HAF T-6 Daedelus Team
12:19 11 Swiss F-18
12:30 30 BREAK
13:00 15 Paradrop French Air and Space Force
13:16 6 BAF A-400M
13:23 16 Team Raven
13:40 12 ITAF Typhoon
13:53 8 Air Belgium A-330
14:02 8 BAF ThunderTigers
14:11 15 BAF Red Devils
14:27 7 Pilatus PC-7 MKX
14:35 9 ITAF C-27 Spartan
14:45 15 BAF A-109 Razzle Blades
15:01 30 Turkish Stars
15:32 10 P-38 Flying Bulls
15:43 15 USAF F-35
15:59 10 USAF Heritage Flight
16:10 11 Richard Goodwin Muscle Biplane
16:22 15 Royal Jordanian Falcons
16:38 14 CZ W-3A Sokol SAR Demo
16:53 27 Saudi Hawks
17:21 10 BAF F-16 Dream Viper
17:32 0 END SHOW

[Ronny]

Spottersdag Kleine Brogel, 10 september 2022

Kleine Brogel, 08.00 uur – 14.30 uur:

Stored:
FU-145/Z6-E F-84F
FU-188/8S-N F-84F

Hangar:
N25Y P-38L Red Bulll, ex USAAF, 44-53254
FA-77 F-16AM 10 w
FA-95 F-16AM 10 w
FA-104 F-16AM 10 w
FA-.. F-16AM 10 w spec.tail
FB-24 F-16BM 10 w spec.tail

Flightline:
70-3023/2 NF-5A-2000 Turkish Stars
71-3032/3 NF-5A-2000 Turkish Stars
71-3046/5 NF-5A-2000 Turkish Stars
71-3052/5 NF-5A-2000 Turkish Stars
71-3058/6 NF-5A-2000 Turkish Stars
71-4001/4 NF-5B-2000 Turkish Stars
71-4021/1 NF-5B-2000 Turkish Stars

Public side runway:
0717 W.3A 243.vrl
RN-01 NH-90FNH 40 sm
78+32 NH-90TTH THR 10
78+34 NH-90TTH THR 10
ST-16 SF-26M+ 1 w
ST-25 SF-26M+ 1 w
ST-26 SF-26M+ 1 w
ST-35 SF-26M+ 1 w
ST-36 SF-26M+ 1 w
05/709-FG PC-21 EPAA00.315
08/709-FJ PC-21 EPAA00.315
17/709-FS PC-21 EPAA00.315
036 T-6A 361 MEA, Daedalus Demo Team
FA-57 F-16AM 2 w spec.tail 1 sm
FA-87 F-16AM 2 w Dream Viper
FA-127 F-16AM 2 w
31+43 EF-2000 TLG 31
MM7347/36-53 F-2000A RSV/311°gr.
MM55213/61-06 T-346A RSV/311°gr.
J-5002 F/A-18C nn
J-5008 F/A-18C nn
N6123C B-25J Red Bull, ex USAAF 44-86893

8805 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8811 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8816 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8817 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8818 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8819 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8820 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks
8821 Hawk T65A 88 sqn/Saudi Hawks

HB-FXA PC-12NGX Pilatus
HB-HHH PC-7 MKII Pilatus

Other side runway:
CT-03 A.400M 20 sm
CSX62219/RS-50 C-27J 311 gr. RSV
T-409 Saab T-17 FLSK/ Bay Blue
T-415 Saab T-17 FLSK/ Bay Blue
T-428 Saab T-17 FLSK/ Bay Blue

Flying only:
Q-22 AH-64D 301 sqn

Melsbroek/Brussel
CT-06 A.400M 20 sm
CT-.. A.400M 20 sm
CT-.. A.400M 20 sm
OO-FAE Falcon 7X 21 sm
OO-LUM Falcon 7X 21 sm

557 Gulfstream 4 4 sqn, Oman AF
485 C-130H 3 sqn Saoudi Arabia AF

Eindhoven:
G-781 C-130H 336 sqn spec.tail
G-273 C-130H 336 sqn
2852/PT-ZNG KC-390 Brazilian AF
2706 C-27J Esc.902
024 C-295M 8 BLTr
T-059 A.330MRTT MMF


Martin Imhof
Robert Reuver
Ronny Jansen

[TF-104G]

Spottersdag Kleine Brogel, 10 september 2022

Kleine Brogel, 08.00 uur – 14.30 uur:

Flightline:
71-3058/6 NF-5A-2000 Turkish Stars
71-4001/4 NF-5B-2000 Turkish Stars

Martin Imhof
Robert Reuver
Ronny Jansen

71-3058 Scramble Database says w/o 07APR21 but seen SEP22 in EBKB. Someone have a chance for check dataplate ?
71-4001 Scramble Database says 69-4001

[witje]

71-3032 = 70-3032

[frdwdrn]

Which F-35A flew late afternoon to form part of the legacy flight?

[FP24]

19-5475/LN