Hello all,
On 29-01-2025 adsb-exchange showed D-AGLO landing at 21:35z at AMS from LGW. Tracks look very normal but the real aircraft was nowhere to be found. On a replay it landed in between A20N OE-LSN and B38M PH-TFN . My own SBS-3 logged both airliners but not the GL7T… On liveATC both airliners can be heard getting their landing clearance on 118.28 but no aircraft in between.
On 30-01-2025 the GL7T still pinged in a hangar at Schiphol-east, while here it is flying LBG-CIA-LBG:
https://adsb.lol/?icao=3c5d8f&lat=48.96 ... 2025-01-30
Also FR24 shows an anonymous GL7T on that flight. (adsb.lol share most earlier flights with adsbexchange)
My own SBS logged this aircraft once at AMS this year, 21-08-2024, also using VDL-2, landing 0713z/0913lt rwy27 and departing 1137z/1337lt rwy22. On the Scramble forum it was announced before landing, but on adsb-exchange however, it flew HAJ-MAD-HAJ that day!
Assuming the picture’s date here is correct, here another mismatch, at LTN on 08-09-2024:
https://api.flickr.com/photos/rkc01/53981135345
On adsb-exchange it flew BRU-BCN-AMS (I doubt that).
And at DMK 20-11-2024 :
https://api.flickr.com/photos/193924955 ... 177194327/
Another interesting one; On the replay of AMS 21-07-204 at 18:01 D-AGLO can be seen taking off 36L into several landing aircraft on 18R !
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay= ... &zoom=11.0
(the date in the URL jumps back one day on my system. Make sure it is set at 2024-07-21. I have to change it to 22 to get 21.)
And this one:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 1722113162
It landed on rwy24 at 20:41, and took of from rwy22 20:45 . It cannot have rolled out, taxied to 22 and prepare for departure in 4 minutes…
So it shows up on adsb-exchange were there is no real aircraft , and were the real aircraft is there is nothing on adsb-exchange (no other hexcode either) .
Any ideas what is going on?
L.
Also posted here:
https://adsbx.discourse.group/t/bogus-t ... 3c5d8f/848
Global 7500 D-AGLO manipulated on ADSBex
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Re: Global 7500 D-AGLO manipulated on ADSBex
Three cases where D-AGLO "flew" the exact route that was flown by an airliner a few hours earlier...
2025-01-29 LGW-AMS G-EJCE EZY45XC/6371
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 1-29&leg=2
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=40 ... 1-29&leg=3
2025-01-24 BCN-LGW OE-LKK EJU8062
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 1-29&leg=1
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=44 ... 1-29&leg=1
2024-07-21 AMS-FLR PH-EXY KLM63V/1651
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 7-21&leg=1
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=48 ... 7-21&leg=2
That day it was spotted at LTN and seen landing at LBG in the evening, with spotters already noting it wasn't visible on adsb-exchange.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jcc140965/54226661810/
2025-01-29 LGW-AMS G-EJCE EZY45XC/6371
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 1-29&leg=2
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=40 ... 1-29&leg=3
2025-01-24 BCN-LGW OE-LKK EJU8062
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 1-29&leg=1
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=44 ... 1-29&leg=1
2024-07-21 AMS-FLR PH-EXY KLM63V/1651
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... 7-21&leg=1
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=48 ... 7-21&leg=2
That day it was spotted at LTN and seen landing at LBG in the evening, with spotters already noting it wasn't visible on adsb-exchange.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jcc140965/54226661810/
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Re: Global 7500 D-AGLO manipulated on ADSBex
After having arrived 2025-01-29 and without being seen by anyone, the virtual D-AGLO took off on adsb-exchange 2025-02-04 leaving AMS for BCN.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay= ... &zoom=12.0
(check date in url is 2025-02-04 ! On my system it jumps back one day so you might have to change it to -05)
In the replay D-AGLO takes off at 06:11z in between AUA3NA(OELBK) and LOT7LA(SP-LII) with only a runway-length seperation...way too little.
On LiveAtc again both airliners can be heard getting their take-off clearance but D-AGLO/KAY58 is missing. The file should be avialable for the next week or so: https://archive.liveatc.net/eham/EHAM-T ... -0600Z.mp3
(around 09:36 and 10:50)
The flight to BCN seems a manipulated copy of PH -BXO two days earlier:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... rackLabels
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=48 ... rackLabels
Adsb.fi shares the flight with ADSB-exchange:
https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=3c5d8f&lat= ... 2025-02-04
But on adsb.lol it can be seen flying LBG-MUC around that time!
https://adsb.lol/?icao=3c5d8f&lat=47&lo ... 2025-02-04
I heard through the grapevine MUC airport systems show it as 0831lt on blocks from LBG....
Airplanes.live seems to have received the real and the manipulated data:
https://globe.airplanes.live/?icao=3c5d ... 2025-02-04
Addition: The virtual aircraft "flew" a few days later to MUC, on 2025-02-08, showing BCN-MUC with a flightpath that seems copied from DLH96C/1809, A321 D-AISB 3C6664 a day earlier. Its cruise level FL336 doesn't make sense either.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... rackLabels
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... rackLabels
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay= ... &zoom=12.0
(check date in url is 2025-02-04 ! On my system it jumps back one day so you might have to change it to -05)
In the replay D-AGLO takes off at 06:11z in between AUA3NA(OELBK) and LOT7LA(SP-LII) with only a runway-length seperation...way too little.
On LiveAtc again both airliners can be heard getting their take-off clearance but D-AGLO/KAY58 is missing. The file should be avialable for the next week or so: https://archive.liveatc.net/eham/EHAM-T ... -0600Z.mp3
(around 09:36 and 10:50)
The flight to BCN seems a manipulated copy of PH -BXO two days earlier:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... rackLabels
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=48 ... rackLabels
Adsb.fi shares the flight with ADSB-exchange:
https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=3c5d8f&lat= ... 2025-02-04
But on adsb.lol it can be seen flying LBG-MUC around that time!
https://adsb.lol/?icao=3c5d8f&lat=47&lo ... 2025-02-04
I heard through the grapevine MUC airport systems show it as 0831lt on blocks from LBG....
Airplanes.live seems to have received the real and the manipulated data:
https://globe.airplanes.live/?icao=3c5d ... 2025-02-04
Addition: The virtual aircraft "flew" a few days later to MUC, on 2025-02-08, showing BCN-MUC with a flightpath that seems copied from DLH96C/1809, A321 D-AISB 3C6664 a day earlier. Its cruise level FL336 doesn't make sense either.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... rackLabels
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=3c ... rackLabels
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Re: Global 7500 D-AGLO manipulated on ADSBex
On 2025-2-11 D-AGLO flew MUC-BTS, both visible on adsb-exchange and adsb.lol ... audio of Bratislava on liveATC confirms its arrival so since a long time this seems like a flight that is normally visible on adsbEx. On 2025-2-13 adsbEx shows a flight from BTS overflying the Netherlands towards Mexico (Tulum?). My own SBS picked up this flight as well so this seems to be another real flight.
Then on 2025-2-15 Tulum - SXM. Arrival was visible on webcam.
Then on 2025-2-15 Tulum - SXM. Arrival was visible on webcam.