Florennes (EBFS) - 2008

Banter · Post by **Banter** » 12 Jun 2008, 06:34

Make that 4 ! TUAF425,405,426 and 406 ETA1300-30L

Piet Luijken wrote:Thursday, tomorrow, two turkish Transalls are expected at Aviano according to Nickel21 at FAS MB. They should continue to Florennes.

tlp_intel · Post by **tlp_intel** » 12 Jun 2008, 10:35

Dear all,

This is a short message from the TLP Intelligence Office. For some time now, people have contacted us to ask if they could visit TLP in order to take photo's of our aircraft. In the past, this was often possible, but for some time now, access to the base has been very limited.

At this time, the security policy of TLP does not allow photographs to be taken and/or civilians to be allowed on base. We are currently thinking about re-introducing a spotters day, where a maximum of 50 people can visit the TLP Flight Line.

However, we can't make any promises. Access to the base can only be graunted when security is assured. I hope you can understand the fact that we as TLP are responsible for the safety and security of some of the most advanced jets in the world. We do not take this responsibility lightly.

If Spotters Day is reintroduced, it will be published on our website (http://www.tlp.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and I will also post a short message on this forum. I can make no promises that Spotters Day will be reintroduced. As you probably already know, TLP is also scheduled to move to Spain in the near future. We do not have information yet about Spotters Day in Spain.

For now, I would like to ask the Spotters Community the following.
(a) Please respect our current policy and do no try to access the base by trying to persuade the guard.
(b) Please do not contact TLP for individual requests. We do not have the manpower to respond to each and every one of those.
(c) Military Aviation Magazines are also not allowed until further notice, with small exceptions approved by the Belgian MoD.
(d) Military Spottes (being spotters who are in active duty within one of the armed forces within NATO) are also denied permission to take photographs at TLP.

Respectfully,

ACO TLP Intelligence Office
Base J. Offenberg
Rte Charlemagne 191
B5620 Florennes, Belgium

patrick dirksen · Post by **patrick dirksen** » 12 Jun 2008, 18:08

deleted because of misunderstandings

Post by **Key** » 12 Jun 2008, 23:08

Anyway, thanks for the message, tlp_intel. Much appreciated.

Erik

Post by **Key** » 12 Jun 2008, 23:12

'Unfortunately' they came in earlier, meaning some folks missed their arrival (yep, you guessed it). Luckily, they were parked well in sight from spot 3 on 08R. The numbers were 69-024, 69-033 (Turkish Stars), 69-035 and 69-038.
Around 15:45, one Mirage 2000 and Italian F-16s 40 and 59 departed (Thu 12 June).

Erik

Piet Luijken · Post by **Piet Luijken** » 13 Jun 2008, 00:29

Damn weather on this day!
But thanks for the C-160 update.

According our info, there was no AMI F-16 ending with 59, only 39 or 53!

greetings

The DJ · Post by **The DJ** » 13 Jun 2008, 00:37

Key wrote: Around 15:45, one Mirage 2000 and Italian F-16s 40 and 59 departed (Thu 12 June).

Erik

Erik,

Around 15.30 a Mirage2000 departed and another at 15.37 this one was read off as 4-BX so should be 356. If you saw another one at 15.45 that makes 3.
I think they departed all 4, and also the 4 Itaf F-16's, at least they were starting up all 4, did not see them depart actually. Shame the TLP did not fly....

Regards,
DJ

Post by **Key** » 13 Jun 2008, 00:38

@ Piet and all: Sorry, then it was 39. That's what we read at first, but when taxiing out it looked like 59... Must have been a reflection, dirt, of whatever.
@ DJ: the Mirage I meant took off at 15:37 indeed. The F-16s (two that I saw) somewhat later, so I used 'around 15:45' for the lot. Your info is more accurate.

Erik

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 13 Jun 2008, 01:02

Hey guys....

Did I already tell you....I hate TLP cancellations!!!!!

Anyway, here a complete log of this afternoon between 1300 and 1400 lt.

Parked on TLP-ramp:
9238 JAS-39C 211 tl / 21 zTL Czech AF
9240 JAS-39C 211 tl / 21 zTL Czech AF
9245 JAS-39C 211 tl / 21 zTL Czech AF
6050 L-159A 212 tl / 21 zTL Czech AF
6059 L-159A 212 tl / 21 zTL Czech AF
6070 L-159A 212 tl / 21 zTL Czech AF
305/4-CJ Mirage 2000N EC 03.004 FAF
344/4-BV Mirage 2000N EC 02.004 FAF
356/4-BX Mirage 2000N EC 02.004 FAF
361/4-CK Mirage 2000N EC 03.004 FAF
313/7-HI Rafale B EC 01.007 FAF
324/7-HW Rafale B EC 01.007 FAF
MM7131/51-11 AMX 132ºGr / 51ºSt Italian AF
MM7146/51-25 AMX 103ºGr / 51ºSt Italian AF
MM7239 F-16A ADF 23ºGr / 5ºSt Italian AF
MM7240 F-16A ADF 18ºGr / 37ºSt Italian AF
MM7244 F-16A ADF 23ºGr / 5ºSt Italian AF
MM7253 F-16A ADF 18ºGr / 37ºSt Italian AF
C.15-16/15-03 EF-18A+ Ala 15 Spanish AF
C.15-33/15-20 EF-18A+ Ala 15 Spanish AF
C.15-39/15-26 EF-18A+ Ala 15 Spanish AF
C.15-40/15-27 EF-18A+ Ala 15 Spanish AF
68-0528 F-4E-2020 132 Filo / 3 AJEÜ Turkish AF
68-0532 F-4E-2020 132 Filo / 3 AJEÜ Turkish AF
92-0001 F-16C 182 Filo / 8 AJÜ Turkish AF
92-0002 F-16C 182 Filo / 8 AJÜ Turkish AF
92-0004 F-16C 182 Filo / 8 AJÜ Turkish AF

Parked inside TLP-hangar:
68-0528 F-4E-2020 132 Filo / 3 AJEÜ Turkish AF

Parked at parallel taxiway:
024/69-024 C-160D 221 Filo / 12 HUAÜ Turkish AF
033/69-033 C-160D 221 Filo / 12 HUAÜ Turkish AF Turkish Stars c/s
035/69-035 C-160D 221 Filo / 12 HUAÜ Turkish AF
038/69-038 C-160D 221 Filo / 12 HUAÜ Turkish AF

Parked/Flying from Northern ramp:
LX-N90456 E-3A NAEW&CF NATO

Best regards, Rob.

Stafhunter · Post by **Stafhunter** » 13 Jun 2008, 08:42

also on the left side you could seen some BAF F-16's (6-7) on the platform serials? when you look to right on the right side of the tower there standing a Belgium F-16 on blocks with the nose to the spottersplase serial?

who can help

and that traffic jams

normaly drive 2 1/2 hours now 4 1/2 hours

i think i would be faster at Albacete (Spain). when i fly from The Netherlands to Spain

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 13 Jun 2008, 11:48

Stafhunter wrote:and that traffic jams normaly drive 2 1/2 hours now 4 1/2 hours

Yep...same for us...10 hours behind the wheel...and only two hours along the fence...

Kleintje Pils · Post by **Kleintje Pils** » 13 Jun 2008, 14:42

r.e.hendriks wrote:
Stafhunter wrote:and that traffic jams normaly drive 2 1/2 hours now 4 1/2 hours
Yep...same for us...10 hours behind the wheel...and only two hours along the fence...

I'm glad we made the move to Leeuwarden, no traffic jams and shiny weather

The DJ · Post by **The DJ** » 13 Jun 2008, 18:05

r.e.hendriks wrote:
Parked inside TLP-hangar:
68-0528 F-4E-2020 132 Filo / 3 AJEÜ Turkish AF

Best regards, Rob.

Probably a typo, its twice in your list. This one was 68-0504, read off myself.

Rob were you on base? Did you read the preserved F-16 near the tower, like "Stafhunter" mentioned.

Regards,
DJ

andel · Post by **andel** » 13 Jun 2008, 19:39

As all the aircraft leave for home stuff need,s to be collected
This where the aircraft that turned up today (till 13.00 hours)
69-024 C-160 THK dep
69-035 C-160 THK dep
69-038 C-160 THK dep
69-033 C-160 THK Turkish stars c/s dep
MM61188 C-130J Itaf arr/dep
MM62221 46-85 C-27J arr/dep
3209 An-26 Czech af arr/dep
2408 An-26 Czech af arr/dep
and a Spanish Af C-130 the TL10-01
Greeting,s Mark

maurits · Post by **maurits** » 13 Jun 2008, 21:47

Hi,

According to this message on MSF:

Seen at Florennes this week, FA-47/FS near TLP hangar. Fresly painted. Also
FR-29 RF-84F is preserved near the Mirage 5BA.

Regards,

Frits

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