Kecskemét International Air Show, 16/17 August 2008

SpEkTr · Post by **SpEkTr** » 22 Aug 2008, 12:38

Yup.
That is always my idea. To captuer all the atmosphere on some show.

I captured this guy on sunday morning. We were inside just few meters from taxyway

Paul van der Linden · Post by **Paul van der Linden** » 22 Aug 2008, 17:17

r.e.hendriks wrote:Hi all,

Here a few questions....maybe someone can help me.

- HA-TUV Sk-61, what is the ex Swedish serial of this Bulldog??

- YU-DOG, is this former Yugoslav AF?? What is it's serial and aircraft type??

- The Me-108 marked G.356 inside the marked, is this former Hungarian AF?? Anyone more info on this one??

- Can anyone tell me whether there were 8 or 9 Turkish Stars at the fightline?? I have 3015,27,36,39,42,55,4005,17....

- Does anyone have the serials of the MB.339's of Frecce??

Any help is welcome.....thanks a lot!

Best regards, Rob.

Hi Rob,

Frecce Tricolori were the following:

534/0, 539/1, .../2, 477/3, 517/4. 473/5, 479/6, 475/7, 551/8, 505/9, 538/10

There were nine Turkish Stars with 3016 being the missing aircraft.

Greetings, Paul

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 22 Aug 2008, 17:41

Hey Paul,

Thanks a lot!!!!

Seeya!! Rob

Bart · Post by **Bart** » 22 Aug 2008, 17:50

The Me.108 should be exchanged with a German Museum for the Yak-11 which was pressent at last year's openday. The Me.108 has been used by the FrenchAF, because the engine was French when it arrived at SzolnokAB. The aircraft has been overhauled completely by technicians of SzolnokAB (great job!!) I've heard that it was supposed to get a camo c/s.
I've got this info from a good friend of mine.

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 22 Aug 2008, 23:08

Bart wrote:The Me.108 should be exchanged with a German Museum for the Yak-11 which was pressent at last year's openday. The Me.108 has been used by the FrenchAF, because the engine was French when it arrived at SzolnokAB. The aircraft has been overhauled completely by technicians of SzolnokAB (great job!!) I've heard that it was supposed to get a camo c/s.
I've got this info from a good friend of mine.

Any news on it's former registration??

Best regards, Rob.

frank kramer · Post by **frank kramer** » 23 Aug 2008, 00:36

Bart wrote:The Me.108 has been used by the FrenchAF, because the engine was French when it arrived at SzolnokAB.

In that case, it MIGHT not be a "genuine" Messerschmitt Bf108. First production of the Bf108 was in Germany, but was transferred to occupied France in 1942 where some 100 were built by SNCAN (Nord) at Les Mureaux. After the war, they continued to build the type, but with French engines. They called that the Nord 1000 Pingouin. There were two more versions, both from after the war and with different engines: the Nord 1001 with the Renault 6Q-11 engine and the Nord 1002 with Renault 6Q-10. It is commonly accepted that the only "true" Bf108's were the ones produced by Messerschmitt in Germany before 1942 and the ones produced at SNCAN/Les Mureaux during the war. All later aircraft are, depending on what engine is installed, either Nord 1000, 1001 or 1002.

TF-104G · Post by **TF-104G** » 23 Aug 2008, 13:31

r.e.hendriks wrote:Hi all,

Here a few questions....maybe someone can help me.

- The Me-108 marked G.356 inside the marked, is this former Hungarian AF?? Anyone more info on this one??

Any help is welcome.....thanks a lot!

Best regards, Rob.

Bf.108 is N.1002 269

is the Z.126 OK-IHK/"UC-33" ex mil ?

patrick dirksen · Post by **patrick dirksen** » 23 Aug 2008, 16:21

Bf.108 is N.1002 269

That would be my guess as well; that one used to be under restoration at the Szolnok museum. They indeed did a good job!
A few other questions answered:

-Sk.61 HA-TUV was checked for its c/n on Budaors, and was 190 which makes it former 61072
-the second L-39 parked near the Turkish Stars was 131
-inside the hangar were JAS.39's 31, 34 and 36, and MiG-29 24 (being dismantled)
-preserved with MiG-15 "1976" and MiG-19 "1976" was also MiG-21 "1978" (real id 909). Although EMOOS gives this as marked as 1977/1978 it really has 1978 on both sides by the way.

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 23 Aug 2008, 21:40

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies on my questions....
Here (again) a question....

Can anyone identify this aircraft?? What kind of aircraft is it??
It has reg. YU-DOG, but searching on google or yahoo didn't help.

Is this a former Yugoslav AF aircraft or just a civil one in camo colors??

Any help is welcome!!

Best regards, Rob.

jimmy van drunen · Post by **jimmy van drunen** » 23 Aug 2008, 21:55

It is Civil registered: YU-DOG

r.e.hendriks · Post by **r.e.hendriks** » 23 Aug 2008, 21:58

jimmy van drunen wrote:It is Civil registered: YU-DOG

Yeah, I know...that's what I said in my question....

But what type of aircraft is it? And does it have a former airforce reg???

Best regards, Rob.

Bart · Post by **Bart** » 23 Aug 2008, 22:18

Thanks Mr. Hendriks and Frank for the info about the Me108 (Nord 1002), the two of you saved me another mail (in Magyar) to my contact, and my hungarian is not my strongest language.
So far I couldn't find any info about YU-DOG on Google, I've spoken with the pilots during the airshow. I just forgot to ask about the registration and the type of aircraft...........foolish me!
Better luck next time, lets hope someone got the original ID of that bird.

David Moore · Post by **David Moore** » 23 Aug 2008, 22:19

r.e.hendriks wrote:
jimmy van drunen wrote:It is Civil registered: YU-DOG
Yeah, I know...that's what I said in my question....

But what type of aircraft is it? And does it have a former airforce reg???

Best regards, Rob.

UTVA 66

PIK Flyer · Post by **PIK Flyer** » 24 Aug 2008, 02:23

Hilco wrote:
MIG-29UB 24 NN IN HANGAR

Can anyone tell me which hangar this MIG-29 was in? I don't seem to have a note of it and its the only one I'm missing.

Thanks

Hilco · Post by **Hilco** » 24 Aug 2008, 11:27

@ PIK Flyer,

We drove around the airbase and we saw it from the other end. And if I remember it correctly it was the hangar near the place where the turkish stars were parked. But don't know it for sure... We didn't see it on base though.

Hope this helps a bit...

cya,

Hilco