Bluestar233 wrote:skycruiser wrote:streep wrote:KLM will introduce a second daily service on thu, fri and sat starting 1 oct 2010.
KL863 leaving at 13:50 (B744)
Hello
One question about the KLM863 flight. I can remember that in 2001 also the KLM863 goes to Tokyo, was 1 flight per week i think.
But the flight route from KLM863 goes on the UL620 via RKN-OMELO ( example KLM427 to Dubai use the same Airway).
The KLM861 flight at the same time use the "normal" route via Scandinavia.
In the timetable was to see that KLM863 use 2h longer than KLM861.
Knows anyone the reason for this routing from KLM863??
greetings
alex
Dear Alex,
The 2 hour longer KL863 you refer to was a unique flight/route which KLM operated only very briefly during one schedule season, for the following reasons:
- At that time KLM had permission to overfly Russia 5x/week with KL861 AMS-TYO non-stop. But the airline wanted to operate AMS-TYO nonstop more frequently each week, however the Russians did not permit KLM to fly a higher frequency over Siberia.
So KLM designed another non-stop route to Tokyo around Russia, over a Southern routing. This flight took 2 hours longer then the Siberian route and operated only on a very low frequency. Due to the long flight time and high fuel costs this KL863 was never profitable and KLM stopped it as soon as they received more Russian overflight permissions.
The new KL AMS-TYO frequency is as follows:
- AMS 13:50 NRT 07:50 KL 0863 Non-Stop Thu, Fri, Sat = NEW
- AMS 17:40 NRT 11:40 KL 0861 Non-Stop daily
- NRT 10:50 AMS 15:25 KL 0864 Non-Stop Fri, Sat, Sun = NEW
- NRT 13:30 AMS 18:05 KL 0862 Non-Stop daily