ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
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wamovements
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
I think it has priority as it is the sole German Air show in 2010 and for sure they do not want to say to the German folks: "Sorry no EC665 due to money where you paid taxes for". The situation isn't much changed since 2008 when three EC665 (at that time only three were oparational according to the crew) were flown from LeLuc to Tegel. It would also be a blamage for a trade show to disappoint future customers with the message: "we are having troubles so you can't buy what you want".
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
most likely a static of the Tiger and the WTD Tiger Solo dynamic (maybe integrated in some sort of "degraded" AirLand Op Demo?)
If u saw the Organisation and the personnel needed the last yrs, including the trng, I don´t think the AAvnSchool can handle it alone
(if they don´t want to sacrifice whole courses in Le Luc or Buckeburg), at least not for the Tiger.
Won´t sound too negative but AFAIK the Army isn´t flying PBL 002´s due to Flt Safety Problems (chafe marks at wiring), harsh cutdowns on FltHrs for all types due to money -
pls draw your own conclusion
so maybe they´re forced to let the pants down, let´s hope for the best show possible but don´t expect to much
Regards,
Michael.
If u saw the Organisation and the personnel needed the last yrs, including the trng, I don´t think the AAvnSchool can handle it alone
(if they don´t want to sacrifice whole courses in Le Luc or Buckeburg), at least not for the Tiger.
Won´t sound too negative but AFAIK the Army isn´t flying PBL 002´s due to Flt Safety Problems (chafe marks at wiring), harsh cutdowns on FltHrs for all types due to money -
pls draw your own conclusion
so maybe they´re forced to let the pants down, let´s hope for the best show possible but don´t expect to much
Regards,
Michael.
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
The flight program has been announced at http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2010/airsho ... ramm_e.cfm.
It's not very detailed but if gives an impression.
Have fun!
It's not very detailed but if gives an impression.
Have fun!
Last edited by BlackBird on 26 May 2010, 12:14, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
Skip the first [/url] and the second [url] and the link worksBlackBird wrote:The flight program has been announced at http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2010/airsho ... ramm_e.cfm.
It's not very detailed but if gives an impression.
Have fun!
Groeten,
Ron
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
A400M to make it first public appearance at ILA Berlin Air Show 2010
Visitors will be able to get an exclusive first glimpse of the A400M, the all-new airlifter for the 21st Century and Airbus Military’s latest development, at the ILA Berlin Air Show taking place at Schönefeld Airport from June 8th to 13th.
The airlifter, which is capable of performing short range tactical, longer range strategic and tanker missions, will be on static and flying display during the first two days of the airshow, leaving on the 10th June.
It will be just one part of a major contribution by Airbus, which is celebrating its 40th anniversary of ongoing innovations, to the ILA Berlin Air Show, From June 11th, the “new Queen of the Skies”, the A380, will take over. During the A380 flying display you will be able to experience the unique quietness of this all-new eco-efficient airliner – a true good neighbour for each and every airport.
Airbus and Airbus Military will be present at the EADS Chalet (17-23) to welcome guests.
Media will be welcomed in the EADS Press Chalet (24-25).
On the EADS stand (Hall 7), visitors can learn more about Airbus and Airbus Military products and innovations. They will find an interactive tool featuring all Airbus commercial aircraft family products including Airbus Military’s, as well as a cut-away model of the A320P2F (Passenger to Freighter conversion).
A full scale cross section of an A400M fuselage and a full scale mock-up of the A350 XWB’s cabin housing an audio-visual theatre showing Airbus’ latest innovations “shaping efficiency” are also on display. Airbus experts and specialists will be available to discuss innovations at the Forum on the stand.
Throughout the ILA week Airbus will be holding events designed to give students and recent graduates in an aerospace, engineering or an engineering-related business discipline the chance to discuss career opportunities at Airbus.
For the latest update on market trends, on Wednesday 9th June at 10:00, Airbus will hold a press conference starting at 10.00, in room A in the Press Centre, followed by an Airbus Military press briefing. Commercial announcements can be expected during the course of the week.
Airbus, 26-05-10
Visitors will be able to get an exclusive first glimpse of the A400M, the all-new airlifter for the 21st Century and Airbus Military’s latest development, at the ILA Berlin Air Show taking place at Schönefeld Airport from June 8th to 13th.
The airlifter, which is capable of performing short range tactical, longer range strategic and tanker missions, will be on static and flying display during the first two days of the airshow, leaving on the 10th June.
It will be just one part of a major contribution by Airbus, which is celebrating its 40th anniversary of ongoing innovations, to the ILA Berlin Air Show, From June 11th, the “new Queen of the Skies”, the A380, will take over. During the A380 flying display you will be able to experience the unique quietness of this all-new eco-efficient airliner – a true good neighbour for each and every airport.
Airbus and Airbus Military will be present at the EADS Chalet (17-23) to welcome guests.
Media will be welcomed in the EADS Press Chalet (24-25).
On the EADS stand (Hall 7), visitors can learn more about Airbus and Airbus Military products and innovations. They will find an interactive tool featuring all Airbus commercial aircraft family products including Airbus Military’s, as well as a cut-away model of the A320P2F (Passenger to Freighter conversion).
A full scale cross section of an A400M fuselage and a full scale mock-up of the A350 XWB’s cabin housing an audio-visual theatre showing Airbus’ latest innovations “shaping efficiency” are also on display. Airbus experts and specialists will be available to discuss innovations at the Forum on the stand.
Throughout the ILA week Airbus will be holding events designed to give students and recent graduates in an aerospace, engineering or an engineering-related business discipline the chance to discuss career opportunities at Airbus.
For the latest update on market trends, on Wednesday 9th June at 10:00, Airbus will hold a press conference starting at 10.00, in room A in the Press Centre, followed by an Airbus Military press briefing. Commercial announcements can be expected during the course of the week.
Airbus, 26-05-10
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
Hi,
the Cdr of the german AAvnSchool announced in a Newspaper that due to money restraints there won´t be any flights from Army a/c this year,
worst case would leave just the CH53 GA and the Tiger from the WTD and/or ECD.
Regards,
Mike.
the Cdr of the german AAvnSchool announced in a Newspaper that due to money restraints there won´t be any flights from Army a/c this year,
worst case would leave just the CH53 GA and the Tiger from the WTD and/or ECD.
Regards,
Mike.
Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
Hi,
its first time, that i visit ILA. But im interested mainly in "f-displays", please, where is best place for spotting of flying displays ? Inside or outside of airport ?
thx !
Otis
its first time, that i visit ILA. But im interested mainly in "f-displays", please, where is best place for spotting of flying displays ? Inside or outside of airport ?
thx !
Otis
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
Yesterday during the great visit of GRAS at Celle, the follwing was announced:
HFWS will send two Bo105 to ILA2010, their demo aircraft with German flag panels and their sole Bo105PAH1 (out of my head this is 87+59)
The Demo Bo105 will fly daily. These two Bo105 will fly friday to Berlin.
Beside that, due to a financial conflict,the Heeresflieger won't particpate in the large Bundeswehr Demo.
Kind Regards
Dennis Peteri
HFWS will send two Bo105 to ILA2010, their demo aircraft with German flag panels and their sole Bo105PAH1 (out of my head this is 87+59)
The Demo Bo105 will fly daily. These two Bo105 will fly friday to Berlin.
Beside that, due to a financial conflict,the Heeresflieger won't particpate in the large Bundeswehr Demo.
Kind Regards
Dennis Peteri
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
The ILA flying programma recieved an update, confirming that the large Bundeswehr demo is no longer a large demo. 
Only 17 aircraft, instead of 40, will participate and the demo is cancelled on all days except Thursday and Saturday..
Only 17 aircraft, instead of 40, will participate and the demo is cancelled on all days except Thursday and Saturday..
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
LOG 6 June 2010
86-0097/DY B-1B
8260 EC135T2
8759 Bo105 HFWS + 1
4361 Tornado "4300"
4622 Tornado AG51
4648 Tornado JBG32
3116 EF2000 JBG31
8449 CH-53G
9818 Tiger
5093 C160D LTG63
7160 UH-1D SAR LTG62
7227 UH-1D HFWS
8963 SeaKing MFG5
8504 CH53GA Eurocopter
8418 CH53G
MM62221/46-85 C-27J
7153 UH-1D SAR
8303 SeaLynx MFG3
3858 F-4F JG71
98+30 EF2000 Da5 "3130" in Tent
6622 Sw-4 660318
G17-510 AW101
96-0006 C-17A 437th AW arr
61-0008/BD B-52H 93rd BS arr
87-0045 C-5B Dover arr
9810 Tiger EADS arr
LY-HCF EC145 Lithuania Police!!! in tent
Many more civils, which I will write down when I have time.
add 7/6: forgot to mention the dep of airbus 10+22 at 06 June
86-0097/DY B-1B
8260 EC135T2
8759 Bo105 HFWS + 1
4361 Tornado "4300"
4622 Tornado AG51
4648 Tornado JBG32
3116 EF2000 JBG31
8449 CH-53G
9818 Tiger
5093 C160D LTG63
7160 UH-1D SAR LTG62
7227 UH-1D HFWS
8963 SeaKing MFG5
8504 CH53GA Eurocopter
8418 CH53G
MM62221/46-85 C-27J
7153 UH-1D SAR
8303 SeaLynx MFG3
3858 F-4F JG71
98+30 EF2000 Da5 "3130" in Tent
6622 Sw-4 660318
G17-510 AW101
96-0006 C-17A 437th AW arr
61-0008/BD B-52H 93rd BS arr
87-0045 C-5B Dover arr
9810 Tiger EADS arr
LY-HCF EC145 Lithuania Police!!! in tent
Many more civils, which I will write down when I have time.
add 7/6: forgot to mention the dep of airbus 10+22 at 06 June
Last edited by wamovements on 07 Jun 2010, 11:58, edited 3 times in total.
Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
can you check the c/n from EC145 LY-HCP please
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
mil planning for 7/6
10:30 C-130J USAF arr
11:05 C-27J dis
11:30 G-4 Super Galeb Serbia arr
11:30 NH90 2x arr
11:33 Tiger Dep
12:00 Jas39 2x arr
12:00 KC-135 arr
12:27 CH53GS dis
13:00 A310 arr
13:00 CH-53GA arr
13:23 Bo105 dis
13:33 Tiger arr
14:00 EC635 HFWS arr
15:00 F-5E 6x PdS 18:51 dis
15:00 A-400 arr 17:21 dis
16:15 Be1900D Swiss AF arr dep 17:00
17:00 An26 Serbia arr
21:00 E-3A NATO arr
10:30 C-130J USAF arr
11:05 C-27J dis
11:30 G-4 Super Galeb Serbia arr
11:30 NH90 2x arr
11:33 Tiger Dep
12:00 Jas39 2x arr
12:00 KC-135 arr
12:27 CH53GS dis
13:00 A310 arr
13:00 CH-53GA arr
13:23 Bo105 dis
13:33 Tiger arr
14:00 EC635 HFWS arr
15:00 F-5E 6x PdS 18:51 dis
15:00 A-400 arr 17:21 dis
16:15 Be1900D Swiss AF arr dep 17:00
17:00 An26 Serbia arr
21:00 E-3A NATO arr
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
Arrivals this morning (I am currently sheltering for a heavy rainstrom which should last max 1 hour 
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8254 EC135
23737 G-4 Super Galeb
405 An26 Hung AF
7813 NH90 Eurocopter
7814 NH90 Eurocopter
07-8614/RS C-130J-30 86th AW/37th AS
FAE051 Erj135 Ecuador Air Force !!
The c/n plate of EC145 LY-HCF mentiones the following
Modell: MBB Bk117C-2
Register-No: LBA3049
Serial-No: 9046
Year of manur: 2006
)8254 EC135
23737 G-4 Super Galeb
405 An26 Hung AF
7813 NH90 Eurocopter
7814 NH90 Eurocopter
07-8614/RS C-130J-30 86th AW/37th AS
FAE051 Erj135 Ecuador Air Force !!
The c/n plate of EC145 LY-HCF mentiones the following
Modell: MBB Bk117C-2
Register-No: LBA3049
Serial-No: 9046
Year of manur: 2006
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Re: ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, June 8 – 13, 2010
What time does the gates open? It says 10 o'clock on the website, but I believe it's possible to enter earlier.
Kind regards
Jonas
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