HAF Open days 5-8 Nov 2010

[GIPS]

5 November Araxos
Static
029 F-16
156795 TA-7C
160616 A-7E 'Olympos' c/s
(158825) A-7E 'Hellenic Tiger' c/s
160717 A-7E
Hangar near static, open
008 F-16
Hangars, not accessible
(160)865 A-7E
(156)768 TA-7C
(156)738 TA-7C
Flightline in front of hangars
160537 A-7E
154404 TA-7C
154407? A-7 (one of those special serial paintjobs)
Preserved near gate
159952 A-7
?????? F-104 'Tiger' c/s
Departing
948? C-130

Before reaching the gate, part of the F-16 flightline was visible from outside.
003 F-16
005 F-16
+2
We had to wait before being escorted to the static and two F-16's made a full stop after a couple of low approaches, unfortunately we were unable to get them.
However, another group went past the flightline (from outside) and caught one more F-16, unknown if this was one of the four or one of the pair that landed.
014 F-16
After that, we went looking for the A-7 storage/dump area. We encountered a platform filled with Corsairs, all looking operational and in good shape.
A-7 platform, eastside
158021, 160736, 154477, 156787(tiger rudder), (156)753, 156790, (159)648, 156750, (156)747, 160866, (159)967, 158824, (159)645 and one noted as 590 below the cockpit.
A-7 + F-104 dump
159957, 159947, 159959, 159927, (159)918, (159)936, 160557, (160)541, 159914, 160566, 159980, 159933, 159658,
(159)999, 159948 all A-7 + most probably a few more but blocking each other.
33639, 22314, 32722 F-104 + a lot more.
Before we could concentrate on the Starfighters, we were seen by the LOCALS, they blocked our car with a tractor, phoned the police and alerted the military on baseside. It took some time to convince the military we were only looking at the old aircraft (yeah right) and after checking the camera we were allowed to go. Unfortunately at that moment the local police turned up and for the second time that day we ended up in a police station.

Sounds like you were one of the guys I guided to the dump over the phone

[Sadammie]

Sounds like you were one of the guys I guided to the dump over the phone

And you are a very lucky guy (or didn't you tell us about the LOCALS)

[mailman]

5 November Araxos
Static
029 F-16
156795 TA-7C
160616 A-7E 'Olympos' c/s
(158825) A-7E 'Hellenic Tiger' c/s
160717 A-7E
Hangar near static, open
008 F-16
Hangars, not accessible
(160)865 A-7E
(156)768 TA-7C
(156)738 TA-7C
Flightline in front of hangars
160537 A-7E
154404 TA-7C
154407? A-7 (one of those special serial paintjobs)
Preserved near gate
159952 A-7
?????? F-104 'Tiger' c/s
Departing
948? C-130

Before reaching the gate, part of the F-16 flightline was visible from outside.
003 F-16
005 F-16
+2
We had to wait before being escorted to the static and two F-16's made a full stop after a couple of low approaches, unfortunately we were unable to get them.
However, another group went past the flightline (from outside) and caught one more F-16, unknown if this was one of the four or one of the pair that landed.
014 F-16
After that, we went looking for the A-7 storage/dump area. We encountered a platform filled with Corsairs, all looking operational and in good shape.
A-7 platform, eastside
158021, 160736, 154477, 156787(tiger rudder), (156)753, 156790, (159)648, 156750, (156)747, 160866, (159)967, 158824, (159)645 and one noted as 590 below the cockpit.
A-7 + F-104 dump
159957, 159947, 159959, 159927, (159)918, (159)936, 160557, (160)541, 159914, 160566, 159980, 159933, 159658,
(159)999, 159948 all A-7 + most probably a few more but blocking each other.
33639, 22314, 32722 F-104 + a lot more.
Before we could concentrate on the Starfighters, we were seen by the LOCALS, they blocked our car with a tractor, phoned the police and alerted the military on baseside. It took some time to convince the military we were only looking at the old aircraft (yeah right) and after checking the camera we were allowed to go. Unfortunately at that moment the local police turned up and for the second time that day we ended up in a police station.

@Sadammie: After reading this, I know who you are... I was in the 4A group, so we met a couple of times during the open days. Thanks for sharing info and serials during the trip!!

I can confirm A7E 158825, this was read from a c/n plate in the cockpit. The C130B that departed was indeed 948. We also saw 1..407 at the flightline, and I think you are right about that "special serial paintjob".


Regards,

Arjan

[Sadammie]

That is correct. I noticed you have two more T-2's at Kalamata, 160069 and 160079. These were in the flightline?

[Sadammie]

6 November Agrinion
Static and shelter area
159966, 159954, 159949, 159939, 159965, 159962, 159956, 159921, 159946, 159961, 159944, 159953, 159913 all A-7 stored.
6639 F-104
At the gate, we got a free ride to this area and it was even possible to drive past all the Corsairs. The 4Aviation group was present already and luckily we were allowed to follow them to the Starfighter storage. Again, THANKS guys!
Preserved
7433 F-104
F-104 storage
Some are only fuselages, didn't note this as such, someone?
16234, 16168 F-86
5906, 7207, 6676, 6693, 7201, 6642, 6690, /FG6670, /FG666, /FG700/ cn7167/ 5928
German s/n 22+10, 21+88, (27+13?), ??+?? only fuselages.
6674, 7172, 5959, 6672, 7152, 7434, 5733, 7203, 5910, 22317, 32710(as 23710), 7428, 6629, 5954, 5917, 33643, 5719,
8176, 13044, 7183, 7429, 5916, 7195, 7409, 32706, 7180 all F-104/TF-104
Dump
18298 F-86

[Sadammie]

6 November Dekelia-Tatoi
Static
69-7200 T-41
AC-1 Ce172RG
AC-23 CeF406
1547 AgCat
101 Dromader
Flightline
AC-3 TB20
AC-4 TB20
AC-21 CeF406
AC-22 CeF406
69-7183 + 84 + 85 + 86 + 87 + 88 + 90 + 91 + 93 + 94 + 95 + 97 + 98 + 70-1962 all T-41
Preserved gate on pole
26837 F-84
Preserved elsewhere, 38.113636,23.77425
97166 F-5
(35328)/..-328 T-33
????? TF-104
67960 T-37
16714 T-33
Last two a bit more to the north-east.
Museum storage area
35890, 41614 + 1 T-33
(515)289 HU-16
4349111, (KK169) C-47/DC-3
53-258 Noratlas
(6699)/FG-.99 F-104, 1x TF-104 no tail + tail of 5955, one aircraft??
Museum
Very nice, another time.......

And yes, we forgot to get the AgCats and Dromaders but came back the next day..............

[mailman]

That is correct. I noticed you have two more T-2's at Kalamata, 160069 and 160079. These were in the flightline?

That's right, both were seen at the flightline.

[Sadammie]

6 November Elefsis
Static
1110 CL215
4117 C-27
752 C-130
2509 AS332
11070 A109
30765 AB212
Hangar
2575 AS332
Preserved on pole
517203 HU-16
Flying
???? AS332
Behind the gate are some preserved aircraft but we continued first anti-clockwise around the runway. At some critical areas, soldiers directed us in the right (not for us) direction to the static, but we had to pass the VIP area, C-27 apron and CL215 ramp before reaching the parking of the static. During our drive, an AS332 was flying around but by the time we had parked the car it had made a full stop and remained unidentified. From the static it was possible to score almost all aircraft stored midfield.
Preserved
62326, (61059) (T)F-102 + (54)951 T-33 + (51)070 HU-16 + 2137 YS-11 + (52-128) Noratlas + 4138 Do28D + 92626 C-47
VIP-ramp
135L-484 E135 + 145-209 E145
CL215-ramp
1067 + 1069 + 1060 + 1070 + 1045
Storage midfield
153441, 152744, 152183, 152747 all P-3 + Noratlas wreck
17201, (517)177, (510)068, 510044, 517207 all HU-16, RA06276, RA06295 Mi26
On our clockwise return trip (the 4Av group defied Greek logic and returned anti clockwise to the gate, thus driving past the helicopter ramp, the stored Do28's and C-130's), we made some intermediate stops to get some additional aircraft.
C-27-ramp
4118, 4121, 4122, 4123, 4125 + in hangar 4120 + 1 (4124?)
C-130-ramp
296, 303, 723, 741, 743, 744, 747(or 742?), 751 + 2143 YS-11
Hangar near gate
1073, 1123 CL215

[Sadammie]

6 November Megara
Static
No, just kidding. On our drive from Agrinion to Tatoi, we drove past Megara. Lots of helicopters parked on the ramp. After Elefsis we decided to try and get some of them. By the time we climbed the hill near the gate, sun was almost gone but a few UH-1's parked near the gate were seen. Trees now obstruct viewing the main ramp from the hill.
ES620, ES688, ES694 UH-1H
Next stop the parked Chinooks, but these proved to be impossible due to the darkness. Some other aircraft were seen between buildings but stopping was not an option because of the LOCALS. Clearly not totally satisfied, we returned early next morning.....
7 November Megara
Chinook-ramp
ES917, ES907, ES901, ES910, ES902, ES914, ES903, ES912
402 C-12
Main ramp, seen between buildings
ES839, ES672, ES616, ES624, ES601 UH-1H ES301, ES321, ES291 U-17
Near gate
ES630 UH-1 + preserved heli ?
The last UH-1 nearly was one too much. When parked at the old gate, getting out of the car to get this last one, the bikers driving towards us turned out to be the police. But they slowly drove past, hardly looking at us, so we quickly read off the serial and hastily departed to Tatoi.

[Sadammie]

7 November Dekelia-Tatoi
Yes, you can call it bad planning, but here again to rectify!
Dromader-ramp
117, 118, 128, 030, 026, 119, 202, 205, 805, 116, 125, 127, 102, 201
AgCat-line
1279, 1269, 1265, 1604, 1221, 1606, 1569, 1260
7 November Elefsis
Here again trying the 4Av trick, unfortunately the Greek had stepped up security, so no such luck.
C-130 Hangar
(745)
Hangar near gate
1111 CL215
From the static, views were possible to the Western ramps and at least 8 stored Do28's, 2x AB212 and 2x AB205 were seen but not read off.

[F17_114PM]

Nice logs, but, ... do you really think it was a wise way to do the trip this way? Almost on every base you had contact with the police ... I don´t know if this is really something to be proud of and good for the future ...

[Sadammie]

Nice logs, but, ... do you really think it was a wise way to do the trip this way? Almost on every base you had contact with the police ... I don´t know if this is really something to be proud of and good for the future ...

What gave you the idea we are proud of our contacts with the police, we are merely (OK, in a juicy way) stating the facts. And that is, its still difficult to do any spotting in Greece. One could get the opinion it's easy when looking at a certain photopage elsewhere on the forum.

[lievers-online]

Thanks Sadammie, for the log of Elefsis "6 November" however does anybody have the serial of the Turkish casa 235 (red and white c/s) on the VIP-ramp on the 8th.

[mailman]

6 November Elefsis
Static
1110 CL215
4117 C-27
752 C-130
2509 AS332
11070 A109
30765 AB212
Hangar
2575 AS332
Preserved on pole
517203 HU-16
Flying
???? AS332
Behind the gate are some preserved aircraft but we continued first anti-clockwise around the runway. At some critical areas, soldiers directed us in the right (not for us) direction to the static, but we had to pass the VIP area, C-27 apron and CL215 ramp before reaching the parking of the static. During our drive, an AS332 was flying around but by the time we had parked the car it had made a full stop and remained unidentified. From the static it was possible to score almost all aircraft stored midfield.
Preserved
62326, (61059) (T)F-102 (54)951 T-33 (51)070 HU-16 2137 YS-11 ???? Noratlas 4138 Do28D 92626 C-47/DC-3
VIP-ramp
135L-484 E135 + 145-209 E145
CL215-ramp
1067 + 1069 + 1060 + 1070 + 1045
Storage midfield
153441, 152744, 152183, 152747 all P-3 + Noratlas wreck
17201, (517)177, (510)068, 510044, 517207 all HU-16, RA06276, RA06295 Mi26
On our clockwise return trip (the 4Av group defied Greek logic and returned anti clockwise to the gate, thus driving past the helicopter ramp, the stored Do28's and C-130's), we made some intermediate stops to get some additional aircraft.
C-27-ramp
4118, 4121, 4122, 4123, 4125 + in hangar 4120 + 1 (4124?)
C-130-ramp
296, 303, 723, 741, 743, 744, 747, 751 + 2143 YS-11
Hangar near gate
1073, 1123 CL215

On the C130 ramp we didn't see 747, but we noted 742, which is not in your list...

Helicopter ramp:
Bell: 4396, 4445, 30763 and 31190.
AS332: 2520, 2618, 2620

[mailman]

Nice logs, but, ... do you really think it was a wise way to do the trip this way? Almost on every base you had contact with the police ... I don´t know if this is really something to be proud of and good for the future ...

I think I have to speak up for Sadammie here. Those guys were using common sense but had some bad luck with the LOCALS... And it's a good thing to warn people who want to go there for this "problem", I think.