Hi David,
Thanks for your help on the French Alpha Jet, I really need to have a look for the monoplane you are asking for... I am not sure if I can trace it back on my pics but will have a look.
kind regards, Hilco
Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
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Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
I am grateful to David Malt on the airfields yahoo group for answering my query about the civil blue & white aircraft:
"I believe this is D-EJRO a Cessna P210N - II c/n P210-00239. I read it from the Red Bull area, sideways on.
Another photo can be seen on this link. http://www.flickr.com/photos/habbinroar/5492409829/ "
"I believe this is D-EJRO a Cessna P210N - II c/n P210-00239. I read it from the Red Bull area, sideways on.
Another photo can be seen on this link. http://www.flickr.com/photos/habbinroar/5492409829/ "
Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
Thanks for confirming this. I have a photo of it on the Friday but it is nose-on in the distance. I actually thought it was the Red Bulls PC-6. Certainly the colours match with the photo on Flickr.David Moore wrote:I am grateful to David Malt on the airfields yahoo group for answering my query about the civil blue & white aircraft:
"I believe this is D-EJRO a Cessna P210N - II c/n P210-00239. I read it from the Red Bull area, sideways on.
Another photo can be seen on this link. http://www.flickr.com/photos/habbinroar/5492409829/ "
I also remember seeing a biz-jet in this area although I cannot remember if it was on Friday or Saturday and it does not appear in any of my photos. Can anyone remember a biz jet parked over at the flightlines on one of the mornings?
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Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
ZELTWEG THURSDAY 2011-06-30 RW26
Weather: scattered clouds with some sun and warm until midday/
becoming overcast, cool and windy by mid-afternoon
Visiting aircraft (all for Airpower 2011):
JAS39D 59TFW 43 L10:25 a1
Mi-17M 3 Sp.Letka 0820 L10:28
MiG-29AS 1 St.Letka 3911 L11:08 a1
F-16AM 10 Wing FA110 demo c/s L11:10*
F-16AM 10 Wing FA95 L11:10*
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E107/(705-UD) spec c/s L11:19*+a/d
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E148/705-LU L11:19*+a/d
Mirage 2000-5F EC01.002 47/102-EP L17:20+
Super Galeb Serbia 23645 L11:22
An-26 Serbia 71368 L12:02
F-4F JG 71 37+01 L11:30 a1
Tornado ECR JaboG 32 46+46 L11:35
EF.2000(T) JG 74 30+10 L17:50+
PC-9M IAC 262 L13:23
Tornado GR.4 14 Sqn ZA604/068 L13:28d
Tornado GR.4 12 Sqn ZA560/050 no badge L13:28d
OH-58B MzHSSt 3C-OB L14:25d
OH-58B MzHSSt 3C-OJ L14:25d
TAH-1F Flying Bulls N11FX L17:12
Bo.105CB Flying Bulls D-HTDM L17:12
Alpha Jet Flying Bulls D-IBDM L18:13+
C-21A 86thAW 40085 bl L17:57
C-130J 86thAW 68612 bl/w L17:59
Additional movements (all for Airpower 2011):
MiG-15UTI Private 006 T10:00 L11:10 a/d
F-16AM 10 Wing FA95 T13:00 L13:10 a/d
PC-7 Lehrabtlg 3H-FA T13:20 L14:24
MiG-29AS 1 St.Letka 3911 T13:25 L13:36 a/d
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E107/(705-UD) spec c/s T13:40 L13:50 a/d
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E148/705-LU T14:36 L14:46 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KR T17:18 L14:05
Weather: scattered clouds with some sun and warm until midday/
becoming overcast, cool and windy by mid-afternoon
Visiting aircraft (all for Airpower 2011):
JAS39D 59TFW 43 L10:25 a1
Mi-17M 3 Sp.Letka 0820 L10:28
MiG-29AS 1 St.Letka 3911 L11:08 a1
F-16AM 10 Wing FA110 demo c/s L11:10*
F-16AM 10 Wing FA95 L11:10*
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E107/(705-UD) spec c/s L11:19*+a/d
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E148/705-LU L11:19*+a/d
Mirage 2000-5F EC01.002 47/102-EP L17:20+
Super Galeb Serbia 23645 L11:22
An-26 Serbia 71368 L12:02
F-4F JG 71 37+01 L11:30 a1
Tornado ECR JaboG 32 46+46 L11:35
EF.2000(T) JG 74 30+10 L17:50+
PC-9M IAC 262 L13:23
Tornado GR.4 14 Sqn ZA604/068 L13:28d
Tornado GR.4 12 Sqn ZA560/050 no badge L13:28d
OH-58B MzHSSt 3C-OB L14:25d
OH-58B MzHSSt 3C-OJ L14:25d
TAH-1F Flying Bulls N11FX L17:12
Bo.105CB Flying Bulls D-HTDM L17:12
Alpha Jet Flying Bulls D-IBDM L18:13+
C-21A 86thAW 40085 bl L17:57
C-130J 86thAW 68612 bl/w L17:59
Additional movements (all for Airpower 2011):
MiG-15UTI Private 006 T10:00 L11:10 a/d
F-16AM 10 Wing FA95 T13:00 L13:10 a/d
PC-7 Lehrabtlg 3H-FA T13:20 L14:24
MiG-29AS 1 St.Letka 3911 T13:25 L13:36 a/d
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E107/(705-UD) spec c/s T13:40 L13:50 a/d
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E148/705-LU T14:36 L14:46 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KR T17:18 L14:05
Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
I have finally found one of my photos which shows this biz jet in the background. It is nose on to me but looks like a Citation. It is parked over near the Turkish Stars. The photo was taken on the Friday if that helps to narrow it down.PIK Flyer wrote:
I also remember seeing a biz-jet in this area although I cannot remember if it was on Friday or Saturday and it does not appear in any of my photos. Can anyone remember a biz jet parked over at the flightlines on one of the mornings?
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Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
On the Friday this was OE-GPNPIK Flyer wrote:I have finally found one of my photos which shows this biz jet in the background. It is nose on to me but looks like a Citation. It is parked over near the Turkish Stars. The photo was taken on the Friday if that helps to narrow it down.PIK Flyer wrote:
I also remember seeing a biz-jet in this area although I cannot remember if it was on Friday or Saturday and it does not appear in any of my photos. Can anyone remember a biz jet parked over at the flightlines on one of the mornings?
Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
Thanks David - much appreciated.David Moore wrote:
On the Friday this was OE-GPN
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Re: Zeltweg 1/2 July 2011
finally found the time for compiling this log - as always only aircraft in action where noted:
ZELTWEG FRIDAY 2011-07-01 RW26
Weather: blue sky, clear air, warm, light wind / becoming more cloudy, windy and cooler but still mostly sunny around noon
Based aircraft (Überwachungsgeschwader, Lehrabteilung):
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WI T08:40 L09:17 a2
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WL T13:30 L13:38 a/d
PC-7 Lehrabtlg 3H-FN T09:31 L09:41 a/d
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WC T15:45 L16:15 a/d
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WG T15:45 L16:15 a/d
Detached aircraft (all for Airpower 2011):
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-B(J)? T07:05 L08:15
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HX T07:10 L08:05
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-H? T07:10 L08:05
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KR T07:35 L08:07
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KS T07:35 L08:25
C-130K LuTSta 8T-CA T08:41 L09:16
PC-6 ILuTSta 3G-EH T08:42 L09:15 a1
PC-6 ILuTSta 3G-EL spec c/s T08:42 L09:15 a1
PC-6 ILuTSta 3G-EE T08:42 L09:15 a1
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KC T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KG T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KE T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KL T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KH T09:57 L10:08 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel RF-26 tiger c/s T12:09 L12:18 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel YD-04 T12:09 L12:18 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel BJ-40 T12:09 L12:18 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel YI-09 T12:09 L12:18 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3058/58 demo c/s T12:21 L12:47 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3025/25 demo c/s T12:21 L12:48 a/d
NF-5B 134 Filo 4017/17 demo c/s T12:21 L12:49 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3066/66 demo c/s T12:21 L12:49 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3039/39 demo c/s T12:21 L12:49 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3049/49 demo c/s T12:21 L12:50 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3048/48 demo c/s T12:21 L12:50 a/d
NF-5B 134 Filo 4009/09 demo c/s T12:21 L12:51 a/d
(these eight NF-5s formed the Turkish Air Force "Turkish Stars" display team)
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8806 demo c/s T13:40 L14:08 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8813 demo c/s T13:40 L14:10 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8810 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8807 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8808 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8814 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
(these six Hawks formed the RSAAF "Saudi Hawks" display-team)
TAH-1F Flying Bulls N11FX T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Bo.105 Flying Bulls D-HTDM T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Bo.105 Flying Bulls D-HTSM T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Bell 47G Flying Bulls D-HEBA T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Alpha Jet A Flying Bulls D-IBDM T14:23 L14:38*
Alpha Jet A Flying Bulls D-ICDM T14:23 L14:38*
PC-9M ETZ 066 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 057 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 056 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 062 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 068 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 066 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
(these six PC-9s formed the Croatian AF "Krila Oluje" display-team)
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KF T14:55 L15:15 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KT T14:55 L15:15 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KA T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OA T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OE T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OH T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OI T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OJ T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OB T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HJ T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HK T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HN T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HV T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HX T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HY T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BC T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BG T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BH T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BI T14:55 L15:15 a/d
PC-6 ILuTSt 3G-EG T15:00 L15:20 a/d
PC-6 ILuTSt 3G-EJ T15:00 L15:20 a/d
C-130K LuTSt 8T-CA T15:00 L16:15 a/d
C-130K LuTSt 8T-CC T15:00 L16:15 a/d
Additional movements (all for Airpower 2011):
PC-9 ETZ 063 T09:48 L09:58 a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H28 T10:09 L10:19 a/d
F-16AM 10 Wing FA110 demo c/s T10:43 L10:54 a/d
Hunter T.68 Private J-4206 tiger c/s T10:55 L11:31 a/d
TAH-1F Flying Bulls N11FX T10:56 L11:01 a/d
Me.109 EADS D-BFME T11:04 L11:12 a/d
Me.262 EADS D-IMTT T11:13 L11:21 a/d
Mi-24V 221.lbvr 7360 T11:35 L11:42 a/d
L-159T 212.tl 6063 T11:43 L11:58 a/d
MiG-15UTI Private 006 T11:59 L12:08 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel RF-26 tiger c/s T13:19 L13:29 a/d
JAS39C 211.tl 9235 tiger mks T13:41 L13:50 a/d
UH-1D THR 30 73+63 T14:55 L15:15 a/d
Visiting aircraft (all for Airpower 2011):
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HV L08:18
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HJ L08:18
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BH L08:35 T08:37
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BB L08:35 T08:37
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KP L15:15
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-LC L15:30
all numbers after 14.30 hours are based on a friend's spotting log, as I lost my own log of that last part of the airshow ...
all timings after 14.30 hours are "reconstructed and thus only roughly correct due to the same reason ...
Any help sorting out the right flying times would be appreciated as well as any corrections. Thanks in advance!
ZELTWEG FRIDAY 2011-07-01 RW26
Weather: blue sky, clear air, warm, light wind / becoming more cloudy, windy and cooler but still mostly sunny around noon
Based aircraft (Überwachungsgeschwader, Lehrabteilung):
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WI T08:40 L09:17 a2
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WL T13:30 L13:38 a/d
PC-7 Lehrabtlg 3H-FN T09:31 L09:41 a/d
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WC T15:45 L16:15 a/d
EF.2000 ÜbwGeschw 7L-WG T15:45 L16:15 a/d
Detached aircraft (all for Airpower 2011):
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-B(J)? T07:05 L08:15
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HX T07:10 L08:05
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-H? T07:10 L08:05
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KR T07:35 L08:07
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KS T07:35 L08:25
C-130K LuTSta 8T-CA T08:41 L09:16
PC-6 ILuTSta 3G-EH T08:42 L09:15 a1
PC-6 ILuTSta 3G-EL spec c/s T08:42 L09:15 a1
PC-6 ILuTSta 3G-EE T08:42 L09:15 a1
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KC T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KG T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KE T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KL T09:57 L10:08 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KH T09:57 L10:08 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel RF-26 tiger c/s T12:09 L12:18 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel YD-04 T12:09 L12:18 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel BJ-40 T12:09 L12:18 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel YI-09 T12:09 L12:18 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3058/58 demo c/s T12:21 L12:47 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3025/25 demo c/s T12:21 L12:48 a/d
NF-5B 134 Filo 4017/17 demo c/s T12:21 L12:49 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3066/66 demo c/s T12:21 L12:49 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3039/39 demo c/s T12:21 L12:49 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3049/49 demo c/s T12:21 L12:50 a/d
NF-5A 134 Filo 3048/48 demo c/s T12:21 L12:50 a/d
NF-5B 134 Filo 4009/09 demo c/s T12:21 L12:51 a/d
(these eight NF-5s formed the Turkish Air Force "Turkish Stars" display team)
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8806 demo c/s T13:40 L14:08 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8813 demo c/s T13:40 L14:10 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8810 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8807 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8808 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
Hawk Mk.65 88 Sqn 8814 demo c/s T13:40 L14:14 a/d
(these six Hawks formed the RSAAF "Saudi Hawks" display-team)
TAH-1F Flying Bulls N11FX T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Bo.105 Flying Bulls D-HTDM T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Bo.105 Flying Bulls D-HTSM T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Bell 47G Flying Bulls D-HEBA T14:20 L14:32+f/p
Alpha Jet A Flying Bulls D-IBDM T14:23 L14:38*
Alpha Jet A Flying Bulls D-ICDM T14:23 L14:38*
PC-9M ETZ 066 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 057 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 056 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 062 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 068 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
PC-9M ETZ 066 T14:40 L14:50 a/d
(these six PC-9s formed the Croatian AF "Krila Oluje" display-team)
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KF T14:55 L15:15 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KT T14:55 L15:15 a/d
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KA T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OA T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OE T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OH T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OI T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OJ T14:55 L15:15 a/d
OH-58B MzHSSta 3C-OB T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HJ T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HK T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HN T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HV T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HX T14:55 L15:15 a/d
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HY T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BC T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BG T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BH T14:55 L15:15 a/d
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BI T14:55 L15:15 a/d
PC-6 ILuTSt 3G-EG T15:00 L15:20 a/d
PC-6 ILuTSt 3G-EJ T15:00 L15:20 a/d
C-130K LuTSt 8T-CA T15:00 L16:15 a/d
C-130K LuTSt 8T-CC T15:00 L16:15 a/d
Additional movements (all for Airpower 2011):
PC-9 ETZ 063 T09:48 L09:58 a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H28 T10:09 L10:19 a/d
F-16AM 10 Wing FA110 demo c/s T10:43 L10:54 a/d
Hunter T.68 Private J-4206 tiger c/s T10:55 L11:31 a/d
TAH-1F Flying Bulls N11FX T10:56 L11:01 a/d
Me.109 EADS D-BFME T11:04 L11:12 a/d
Me.262 EADS D-IMTT T11:13 L11:21 a/d
Mi-24V 221.lbvr 7360 T11:35 L11:42 a/d
L-159T 212.tl 6063 T11:43 L11:58 a/d
MiG-15UTI Private 006 T11:59 L12:08 a/d
Saab 105Ö DTStaffel RF-26 tiger c/s T13:19 L13:29 a/d
JAS39C 211.tl 9235 tiger mks T13:41 L13:50 a/d
UH-1D THR 30 73+63 T14:55 L15:15 a/d
Visiting aircraft (all for Airpower 2011):
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HV L08:18
AB.212 ITHSSta 5D-HJ L08:18
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BH L08:35 T08:37
S.70A mTHSSta 6M-BB L08:35 T08:37
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-KP L15:15
SA.316B VeHSSta 3E-LC L15:30
all numbers after 14.30 hours are based on a friend's spotting log, as I lost my own log of that last part of the airshow ...
all timings after 14.30 hours are "reconstructed and thus only roughly correct due to the same reason ...
Any help sorting out the right flying times would be appreciated as well as any corrections. Thanks in advance!