Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
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Re: 13-17 Nov: Airport Expo, Dubai, UAE Aircraft list
Still growing:
Sikorsky Aircraft/UAE AF Black hawk
UAE AF F-16 Block 60
UAE AF Mirage 2000-9
USAF MOD F-15E
USAF MOD E-2C Hawkeye
USAF MOD MH-60R
USAF MOD C130J-30
USAF MOD C-17A Globemaster
USAF MOD B1 Lancer
USAF MOD F-15C
Sikorsky Aircraft/UAE AF Black hawk
UAE AF F-16 Block 60
UAE AF Mirage 2000-9
USAF MOD F-15E
USAF MOD E-2C Hawkeye
USAF MOD MH-60R
USAF MOD C130J-30
USAF MOD C-17A Globemaster
USAF MOD B1 Lancer
USAF MOD F-15C
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Re: Dubai Airshow 2011
I'm wondering if it is allowed to take pictures from the airport's regular traffic, from the Airshow Expo Static exp grounds, as UAE security guards are normally very strict on that?streep wrote:For most civil enthusiasts the clear view of the main runway with "regular traffic" is the highlight of the show.
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Hi Guys
I was looking at the Dubai Airshow web site and it seems to be a trade-only show? At the risk of sending terribly naive, is it easy to get in regardless or do people watch the displays from somewhere outside? It's not the kind of place you want to be picked up for taking photos of military aircraft really!
Any practical guidance would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Tim
I was looking at the Dubai Airshow web site and it seems to be a trade-only show? At the risk of sending terribly naive, is it easy to get in regardless or do people watch the displays from somewhere outside? It's not the kind of place you want to be picked up for taking photos of military aircraft really!
Any practical guidance would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Tim
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Dear Tim,
What are you afraid of? Dubai is a quite civilized country were a lot of news media are present. A person who goes to Dubai does not embark on an unknown trip.
Dubai is indeed an international trade show as Le Bourget, LIMA @ Lankawi, FIDAE @ Saniaigo etc., where one's photographic opportunities are limited but as can be seen on the lists above some interesting participants will be present. This show will be more of a happening for the spotters civil and military then for photographers, however, there can be some pickings during the short air display.
I am sure you will find your guidance when you get there )
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What are you afraid of? Dubai is a quite civilized country were a lot of news media are present. A person who goes to Dubai does not embark on an unknown trip.
Dubai is indeed an international trade show as Le Bourget, LIMA @ Lankawi, FIDAE @ Saniaigo etc., where one's photographic opportunities are limited but as can be seen on the lists above some interesting participants will be present. This show will be more of a happening for the spotters civil and military then for photographers, however, there can be some pickings during the short air display.
I am sure you will find your guidance when you get there )
Good luck,
CJ.
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Hi & thanks for the reply
Appreciate that Dubai is civilised, but they also have big signs everywhere round the airport telling you that photography is prohibited. Clearly if you are inside the trade show photography is ok - or so it says on their web site. Some countries I am happy to go somewhere on the flightpath of a trade show and photograph from there, but I remain unconvinced that it is a good idea in UAE! And I've been told by people who have been there that prisons & jails in UAE are not places you want to go, ever. What I really wanted to know is how strict they are at the gate on genuine trade credentials? I have a business card for my company, but a cursory inspection would reveal that I am unlikely to be acquiring aircraft systems through it. So if you look reasonable and have a business card, can you get in? I've only ever been to a trade show as an invited guest, so just wanted to know how tricky it is if you are not.
Regards
Tim
Appreciate that Dubai is civilised, but they also have big signs everywhere round the airport telling you that photography is prohibited. Clearly if you are inside the trade show photography is ok - or so it says on their web site. Some countries I am happy to go somewhere on the flightpath of a trade show and photograph from there, but I remain unconvinced that it is a good idea in UAE! And I've been told by people who have been there that prisons & jails in UAE are not places you want to go, ever. What I really wanted to know is how strict they are at the gate on genuine trade credentials? I have a business card for my company, but a cursory inspection would reveal that I am unlikely to be acquiring aircraft systems through it. So if you look reasonable and have a business card, can you get in? I've only ever been to a trade show as an invited guest, so just wanted to know how tricky it is if you are not.
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Dear Tim,
I have been to the trade show before (on the site itself) but I have seen many people on the outside of the airport as well. I would not worry too much.
All the best.
I have been to the trade show before (on the site itself) but I have seen many people on the outside of the airport as well. I would not worry too much.
All the best.
Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Tim, and others,
I have visited the trade days since 2003 as well as a number of MEBAs. If you have proper attire, i.e. no jeans Tshirt flip flops etc. and a business card, then you should have no problem to get in on a trade day. Being out on the apron, typically in the shade of a large aircraft , you wil be much closer to the action than outside.
As to civil traffic, taking pictures of that has never been a problem when on the air show apron. Prevailing winds are from the south west, so they will be landing 30L and taking off from 30R, so you will have some great photo opportunities for landing.
Been to Dubai about 10 times now and never heard of anyone in real trouble when taking pictures of landing aircraft. The worst that in theory could happen is a 4 hour visit to a nearby police station. My guess is that during the air show police would be more bothered about parking your rental car in the wrong place. If you still want to give it a try, go to the Mirdif new residential area south east of the airport and stay in the car (will get hot though) as much as possible.
happy hunting !
I have visited the trade days since 2003 as well as a number of MEBAs. If you have proper attire, i.e. no jeans Tshirt flip flops etc. and a business card, then you should have no problem to get in on a trade day. Being out on the apron, typically in the shade of a large aircraft , you wil be much closer to the action than outside.
As to civil traffic, taking pictures of that has never been a problem when on the air show apron. Prevailing winds are from the south west, so they will be landing 30L and taking off from 30R, so you will have some great photo opportunities for landing.
Been to Dubai about 10 times now and never heard of anyone in real trouble when taking pictures of landing aircraft. The worst that in theory could happen is a 4 hour visit to a nearby police station. My guess is that during the air show police would be more bothered about parking your rental car in the wrong place. If you still want to give it a try, go to the Mirdif new residential area south east of the airport and stay in the car (will get hot though) as much as possible.
happy hunting !
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Although unable to come landside and visit this event,I taxied close-ish to the show earlier on the 15th on EK211 around 09.45 and the following mil airplanes were clearly identified,
2x F-15E on the flight line?
1x UAE F-16 on the flight line with another in static
1x C-27J (MM62127)?
1x grey S-70/SH-60 in static
2x C-17A
1x UAE Mirage 2000 in static
1x MV-22B
1x F/A-18 in static
Further mil airacrft were present,but distance precluded further identifaction of types.
Hopefully another chance to view this on return on EK212 late on the 17th.
Anyone care to fill in any serials for the above?.
2x F-15E on the flight line?
1x UAE F-16 on the flight line with another in static
1x C-27J (MM62127)?
1x grey S-70/SH-60 in static
2x C-17A
1x UAE Mirage 2000 in static
1x MV-22B
1x F/A-18 in static
Further mil airacrft were present,but distance precluded further identifaction of types.
Hopefully another chance to view this on return on EK212 late on the 17th.
Anyone care to fill in any serials for the above?.
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
2x F-15E on the flight line? 87-0176 and 88-1862. SJ
1x UAE F-16 on the flight line with another in static. Static was 3072, there were three at flightline
1x C-27J (MM62127)? Correct
1x grey S-70/SH-60 in static 166589
2x C-17A 1225 UAE and 07-7173
1x UAE Mirage 2000 in static
1x MV-22B
1x F/A-18 in static 166434/NG-100
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1x UAE F-16 on the flight line with another in static. Static was 3072, there were three at flightline
1x C-27J (MM62127)? Correct
1x grey S-70/SH-60 in static 166589
2x C-17A 1225 UAE and 07-7173
1x UAE Mirage 2000 in static
1x MV-22B
1x F/A-18 in static 166434/NG-100
Log will follow from my side, but please post logs here to complete our scramble show report!
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Thanks,PietPiet Luijken wrote:2x F-15E on the flight line? 87-0176 and 88-1862. SJ
1x UAE F-16 on the flight line with another in static. Static was 3072, there were three at flightline
1x C-27J (MM62127)? Correct
1x grey S-70/SH-60 in static 166589
2x C-17A 1225 UAE and 07-7173
1x UAE Mirage 2000 in static
1x MV-22B
1x F/A-18 in static 166434/NG-100
Log will follow from my side, but please post logs here to complete our scramble show report!
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There were several other fast jets on the flight line,but taxying a bit too far away to identfy types.Roll on 2013 when terminal 3 opens.
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
From www.airliners.net 3070 was another of the flying examples.Hurricane wrote:UAE F-16E flying = 3081 is one of three
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
Yeah, and third one was 3076. The 3081 had a very light c/s.
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Re: Dubai Airshow 13-17 Nov 2011
My log from Sunday and Monday
Dubai Air Show
Sunday November 13th (with some updates from Monday Nov 14th)
Note – c/ns are only quoted where read off the airframe
Inside Exhibition Halls
Sagar Eye Incomplete airframe on Tech College stand
P180 Avanti Mock-up – special artwork scheme
G-HAAT 900-00081 MD900
027 Unmanned Systems CT-450 UAV
230 Adcom YABHON-HMD UAV
Outside Static
A4O-DE A300 Oman Air (13th only)
A6-AJC A318CJ
A6-DFR 737-7BC
A6-FDV 737-8KN FlyDubai
A6-JIL A300F RUS Aviation “Sami”
A6-MDI 747-200F Midex “Midex 9” (from 14th)
A7-BBB 777-2DZLR Qatar Airways
N169CA 757 National Airways
N787BX 787-8 Boeing
SU-SMI DHC-8 402 Smart Aviation
VT-JWL A330 Jet Airways (from 14th)
9H-AWK A320CJ
A6-JET CRJ-100
A6-MBS Challenger 605
A6-NKL 14500944 Legacy 135BJ
A6-PJB HA0003 Hawker 900XP
A6-TBF 258792 Hawker 850XP
A7-CEE BD.700
CN-SHS Lineage
F-HBIP 228 Falcon 2000EX
G-RBNS 14501121 Legacy 135BJ
HB-JGE BD.700
HZ-SPAI 112 Falcon 7X
N96RX C 750
N110DJ 000007 Eclipse EA500
N150GA 286 Gulfstream G150
N162NS Falcon 2000LX
N186XP Hawker 900XP
N278AP RB-278 Premier 1A
N305CL BD.100
N383LJ 60-383 Lear Jet 60XR
N401NX RK-28 Beech 400XT
N424CJ 525B-0024 C 525B
N430FJ 3209 Do 328-300
N448RT 680-0017 C 680
N450GD 4225 Gulfstream G450
N860AP RC-60 Hawker 4000
N888VS 5313 Gulfstream G550
N900TR BD.700
OE-IGS BD.700
OE-IKG Challenger 850
PH-CTH Falcon 2000EX
D-CCIS FL-744 King Air B300 (350)
HB-FVM 1291 PC-12NG
I-PDVS 1220 P.180 Avanti
N117EU BY-117 King Air B200GT (250)
N352BC FL-463 King Air B300 (350)
N1459 FL-667 King Air B300 (350)
A6-FAE D4.223 DA40TDi
A6-FTX 42.363 DA42NG
A6-FTY 42.364 DA42NG
OE-VPT 40.N039 DA40NG
OE-VRX 42.M013 DA42M-NG (42MPP)
SAFAT 03 (UTVA75)
A6-AWP AW 139
A6-WSL 4218 AS 350B3 Helidubai
N407AH Bell 407AH
N10984 Bell 429
UP-MI219 Mil Mi-2
EC 145T2 mock-up
0154 Schiebel Camcopter UAE markings
SAFAT 02 (Aerokopter AK1-3)
063 AH-64D UAE Army (FMS Serial 06-6467)
729 Mirage 2000-9 UAE AF
1225 C-17A UAE AF (FMS Serial 100403)
2651 UH-60M UAE HQ Presidential Guard Aviation Group/18
2805 Bell 407 UAE
3072 F-16E UAE AF
MB.339NAT UAE AF – no serial carried – 157 noted on plate in cockpit
125 Rafale French AF 104-GD
CSX55144 M346 / T-346A Italian AF
06-09-815 Karakoram 8 Pakistan AF – Sherdils 2
11-130 JF-17 Pakistan AF
97-6394 Super Mushshak Pakistan AF
10025 Saab 2000AEW Pakistan AF
83-024 F-15C USAF “ZZ”
07-7173 C-17A USAF – 436/512 AW “Dover”
08-3172 C-130J USAF – 317 AG “Dyess”
165824 E-2C USN – CVW-9 VAW-112 NG-602
165940 MV-22A Bell-Boeing
166434 FA-18E USN – VFA-14 NG-200
166569 MH-60R USN – HSM-71 702
HB-HZD 102 PC-21 also in flying display
N360BJ 737AEW Turkish AF
N3000B Beech T-6C
256 Adcom YABHON HMD
278 Adcom YABHON HMD
537 Adcom YABHON-N UAV
Adcom YABHON-R UAV
Adcom United 40 UAV
Adcom YABHON-GRN 1
Adcom YABHON R2
Flight Line
B-015L MA600 to static on 14th
N106HX Boeing AH-6i
724 Mirage 2000-9 UAE AF
740 Mirage 2000-9 UAE AF
3070 F-16E UAE AF
3076 F-16E UAE AF
3081 F-16E UAE AF
124 Rafale French AF
314 Rafale French AF
C.P.X615 001 M346 Italian AF
C.S.X62127 4033 C-27J Italian AF
06-09-819 Karakoram 8 Pakistan AF – Sherdils
10-128 JF-17 Pakistan AF
11-134 JF-17 Pakistan AF
95-6385 Super Mushshak Pakistan AF
ZJ921 Typhoon RAF OQ-H
ZJ942 Typhoon RAF DH
87-0176 F-15E USAF “SJ”
88-1682 F-15E USAF “SJ”
Flying Only
Al Bursan 7 MB.339NAT
Patrouille de France Alpha Jets
Dubai Air Show
Sunday November 13th (with some updates from Monday Nov 14th)
Note – c/ns are only quoted where read off the airframe
Inside Exhibition Halls
Sagar Eye Incomplete airframe on Tech College stand
P180 Avanti Mock-up – special artwork scheme
G-HAAT 900-00081 MD900
027 Unmanned Systems CT-450 UAV
230 Adcom YABHON-HMD UAV
Outside Static
A4O-DE A300 Oman Air (13th only)
A6-AJC A318CJ
A6-DFR 737-7BC
A6-FDV 737-8KN FlyDubai
A6-JIL A300F RUS Aviation “Sami”
A6-MDI 747-200F Midex “Midex 9” (from 14th)
A7-BBB 777-2DZLR Qatar Airways
N169CA 757 National Airways
N787BX 787-8 Boeing
SU-SMI DHC-8 402 Smart Aviation
VT-JWL A330 Jet Airways (from 14th)
9H-AWK A320CJ
A6-JET CRJ-100
A6-MBS Challenger 605
A6-NKL 14500944 Legacy 135BJ
A6-PJB HA0003 Hawker 900XP
A6-TBF 258792 Hawker 850XP
A7-CEE BD.700
CN-SHS Lineage
F-HBIP 228 Falcon 2000EX
G-RBNS 14501121 Legacy 135BJ
HB-JGE BD.700
HZ-SPAI 112 Falcon 7X
N96RX C 750
N110DJ 000007 Eclipse EA500
N150GA 286 Gulfstream G150
N162NS Falcon 2000LX
N186XP Hawker 900XP
N278AP RB-278 Premier 1A
N305CL BD.100
N383LJ 60-383 Lear Jet 60XR
N401NX RK-28 Beech 400XT
N424CJ 525B-0024 C 525B
N430FJ 3209 Do 328-300
N448RT 680-0017 C 680
N450GD 4225 Gulfstream G450
N860AP RC-60 Hawker 4000
N888VS 5313 Gulfstream G550
N900TR BD.700
OE-IGS BD.700
OE-IKG Challenger 850
PH-CTH Falcon 2000EX
D-CCIS FL-744 King Air B300 (350)
HB-FVM 1291 PC-12NG
I-PDVS 1220 P.180 Avanti
N117EU BY-117 King Air B200GT (250)
N352BC FL-463 King Air B300 (350)
N1459 FL-667 King Air B300 (350)
A6-FAE D4.223 DA40TDi
A6-FTX 42.363 DA42NG
A6-FTY 42.364 DA42NG
OE-VPT 40.N039 DA40NG
OE-VRX 42.M013 DA42M-NG (42MPP)
SAFAT 03 (UTVA75)
A6-AWP AW 139
A6-WSL 4218 AS 350B3 Helidubai
N407AH Bell 407AH
N10984 Bell 429
UP-MI219 Mil Mi-2
EC 145T2 mock-up
0154 Schiebel Camcopter UAE markings
SAFAT 02 (Aerokopter AK1-3)
063 AH-64D UAE Army (FMS Serial 06-6467)
729 Mirage 2000-9 UAE AF
1225 C-17A UAE AF (FMS Serial 100403)
2651 UH-60M UAE HQ Presidential Guard Aviation Group/18
2805 Bell 407 UAE
3072 F-16E UAE AF
MB.339NAT UAE AF – no serial carried – 157 noted on plate in cockpit
125 Rafale French AF 104-GD
CSX55144 M346 / T-346A Italian AF
06-09-815 Karakoram 8 Pakistan AF – Sherdils 2
11-130 JF-17 Pakistan AF
97-6394 Super Mushshak Pakistan AF
10025 Saab 2000AEW Pakistan AF
83-024 F-15C USAF “ZZ”
07-7173 C-17A USAF – 436/512 AW “Dover”
08-3172 C-130J USAF – 317 AG “Dyess”
165824 E-2C USN – CVW-9 VAW-112 NG-602
165940 MV-22A Bell-Boeing
166434 FA-18E USN – VFA-14 NG-200
166569 MH-60R USN – HSM-71 702
HB-HZD 102 PC-21 also in flying display
N360BJ 737AEW Turkish AF
N3000B Beech T-6C
256 Adcom YABHON HMD
278 Adcom YABHON HMD
537 Adcom YABHON-N UAV
Adcom YABHON-R UAV
Adcom United 40 UAV
Adcom YABHON-GRN 1
Adcom YABHON R2
Flight Line
B-015L MA600 to static on 14th
N106HX Boeing AH-6i
724 Mirage 2000-9 UAE AF
740 Mirage 2000-9 UAE AF
3070 F-16E UAE AF
3076 F-16E UAE AF
3081 F-16E UAE AF
124 Rafale French AF
314 Rafale French AF
C.P.X615 001 M346 Italian AF
C.S.X62127 4033 C-27J Italian AF
06-09-819 Karakoram 8 Pakistan AF – Sherdils
10-128 JF-17 Pakistan AF
11-134 JF-17 Pakistan AF
95-6385 Super Mushshak Pakistan AF
ZJ921 Typhoon RAF OQ-H
ZJ942 Typhoon RAF DH
87-0176 F-15E USAF “SJ”
88-1682 F-15E USAF “SJ”
Flying Only
Al Bursan 7 MB.339NAT
Patrouille de France Alpha Jets