[MIL] Volkel EHVK 25-11-2011

[Nebbor]

I had the apportunity to go on base to photograph the last flight of two pilots. Conditions were very poor unfortunately. Here is an impression of the day:

1. Visiting Leeuwarden F16BM


2. Lifeliner 3 stand-in


3. Last pass #1 (pilot 1)


4. Last pass #2 (pilot 1)


5. Landing roll-out


6. Last pass #3 (pilot 2)

[Andras]

Nice tower views
Pilots going civil?

[Nebbor]

Thanks Andras, I have no idea if the pilots are going civil.

[joost]

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[sharpshooter]

Is it allowed to give the names, or if that is not appropriate, only the callsigns of these two gentlemen?

Peter

[rene78]

Is it allowed to give the names

NEVER EVER, IS THIS ALLOWED!!

Even more, you can get in serious trouble if you publish names of millitary personnel without proper authorisation.

Unless you have have written authorisation from all kinds of organisations, do NOT publish names.
Trust me, i know!

Greetz

[sharpshooter]

Allright agreed. Callsigns only is another story I assume?

Peter

[Erik_7Xi]

Is it allowed to give the names

NEVER EVER, IS THIS ALLOWED!!

Even more, you can get in serious trouble if you publish names of millitary personnel without proper authorisation.

Unless you have have written authorisation from all kinds of organisations, do NOT publish names.
Trust me, i know!

First of all, I fully agree that one should not name people's names on forums without their explicit consent.

However when it comes to getting into trouble and breaking laws etc - I'm afraid that you are wrong.

While it is a matter of professional and common courtesy not to include people's names in publications unless you have been given permission to do so, I know of no Dutch law to prohibit this. In fact, the Dutch constitution protects freedom of press under Article 7 - and the above case would be covered under paragraph 7.1. The law on freedom of speech has limitations as defined in article 10, paragraph 10. 2 (EVRM) but would not apply here.

Active censorship under the banner of national security is rarely enforced by the courts unless it is a direct threat to the security of the State, the Dutch society or immediately jeopardizes the security of government personnel (e.g. leaking of military plans regarding combat operations in Afghanistan, leaking of details on police investigations, undercover officers etc.)

Again, I fully agree that people should not post names of others (regardless if they are military or otherwise) without their consent but we not need to be scared of the boogeyman either.

[jp 74]

Is it allowed to give the names

NEVER EVER, IS THIS ALLOWED!!

Even more, you can get in serious trouble if you publish names of millitary personnel without proper authorisation.

Unless you have have written authorisation from all kinds of organisations, do NOT publish names.
Trust me, i know!

Greetz

Hmm, this is not the Soviet union just common courtesy.
But please tell us what your experience is.

[Nebbor]

I agree with previous poster that names should never be given unless explicitly authorised.

Is it allowed to give the names, or if that is not appropriate, only the callsigns of these two gentlemen?

Allright agreed. Callsigns only is another story I assume?

Why this urgent need for their names/callsigns? If you don't know them, it is probably none of your business.