Frisian FLAG 2012

[Hans van Herk]

Gents,
Any idea what the airfield of departure was for the Finnish Hornets?
I presume they arrived directly from Rissala?

Regards,
Hans

[camel1]

Hallo,

Het is voor mij alweer bijna 20 jaar geleden dat ik voor het eerst en voor het laatst op Leeuwarden ben geweest en dat alleen aan de Jelsum kant . Ik heb in de planning om volgende week dinsdag maar eens bij Frisian FLAG te gaan kijken.
Kan iemand mij vertellen hoe het fotograferen is vanaf de spottersheuvel aan de 06 kant, terwijl er geland wordt op 24 (mocht dit het geval zijn) en de vliegtuigen de baan verlaten aan de 06 kant?

Groet,

Coen

[nilsko]

See: http://www.scramble.nl/airports/publish/ehlw.htm

[Bennie]

SVFW399 is now inbound to Leeuwarden. Possibly a replacement for 39260 which went tech this morning?
Inbound the TRAs at this time is AWACS NATO05.

[joost]

SVFW399 is now inbound to Leeuwarden. Possibly a replacement for 39260 which went tech this morning?
Inbound the TRAs at this time is AWACS NATO05.

Believe a Grippen went home early this morning, or should have went home....

[Marco DeG]

SVFW399 is now inbound to Leeuwarden. Possibly a replacement for 39260 which went tech this morning?
Inbound the TRAs at this time is AWACS NATO05.

Believe a Grippen went home early this morning, or should have went home....

Correct..he left!

[geert99]

Tomorrow, winds from the south are predicted, later going to south-south/east. I assume runway 06 will be used? This would mean the Jelsum side right? I would like to drive to the right place immediately in the morning traffic.

[doubleugly]

DEAR AIRCRAFTPHOTOGRAPHERS AND ENTHOUSIASTS PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB OVER THE FENCES AND INTO THE PASTURES. UNTIL NOW THE FARMERS SHOW TOLERANCE, BUT THIS CAN CHANGE AND THEN A FORBIDDEN AREA! ESPECIALLY FOR THE FRISIAN FLAG EXERCISE.
THIS MORNING I WITNESSED SOME PEOPLE CLIMBING A FENCH AND WALK INTO THE PASTURES!!!!! NOT TO ANY PURPOSE.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY AIRCRAFTENTHOUSIAST!!!!
THE SPOTTERHILL AND THE AERA WEST OF IT IS A VERY NICE SPOT AND FREE TO GO.
FINALLY, PLEASE DO NOT PLACE ANY KIND OF STAIRS TO THE BASEFENCES!
ENJOY FRISIAN FLAG WITH LOTS OF FRIENDLY PILOTS AND UNITS WHO EVEN COME IN THE EARLY HOURS TO THE FENCES TO SELL FF 2012 STUFF

[camel1]

See: http://www.scramble.nl/airports/publish/ehlw.htm

Bedankt voor de info. Maar sorry, mijn vraag was niet juist. Ik was in de war met 06 en 09.

Mijn vraag is of er mensen zijn die mij hun ervaring willen delen m.b.t. fotograferen vanaf de spotterheuvel van vliegverkeer dat landt aan de 24 kant en de startbaan verlaat aan de 06 kant. (Als dit het geval is op de dag dat ik Leeuwarden bezoek)
En hoe groot is de kans dat 09-27 wordt gebruikt? Ik heb namelijk niet of nauwelijks ervaring met fotograferen/spotten op Leeuwarden. (Slechts 1 keer, 20 jaar geleden)

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Thanks for the info. But sorry, my question was incorrect. I was confused with 06 and 09.

My question is whether there are people who want to share their experience about photographing, from the spottershill, aircrafts that lands on the 24 side and leave the runway onto the taxiways on the 06 side. (If this is the case on the day I visited Leeuwarden)
And how likely is it that 09-27 is used? Because I have little or no experience with photography / spotting at Leeuwarden. (Only 1 time, 20 years ago)

Alvast bedankt.

Groet,

Coen.

[geert99]

Tomorrow, winds from the south are predicted, later going to south-south/east. I assume runway 06 will be used? This would mean the Jelsum side right? I would like to drive to the right place immediately in the morning traffic.

Sigh...Of course I meant the 24 side (Jelsum) when the wind is south-south/east?

[frank kramer]

When the wind is from the (south)east, odds are that the 06 is in use. That would mean take-off and landing from the west (the spottershill) and thus the Marssum-side. With southerly winds its a different matter, as the 06-24 runs SW-NE. In that case, they might opt for 24. Who knows, if the winds shift, they might even switch runways...

And as for the question concerning the use of the spotters hill for landing shots when 24 is in use: IMHO, that won't do much good unless you have a lot of mm's (>500). With 24 in use the Jelsum side is undoubtedly the best option to catch all the traffic.

[nilsko]

See: http://www.scramble.nl/airports/publish/ehlw.htm

Bedankt voor de info. Maar sorry, mijn vraag was niet juist. Ik was in de war met 06 en 09.

Mijn vraag is of er mensen zijn die mij hun ervaring willen delen m.b.t. fotograferen vanaf de spotterheuvel van vliegverkeer dat landt aan de 24 kant en de startbaan verlaat aan de 06 kant. (Als dit het geval is op de dag dat ik Leeuwarden bezoek)
En hoe groot is de kans dat 09-27 wordt gebruikt? Ik heb namelijk niet of nauwelijks ervaring met fotograferen/spotten op Leeuwarden. (Slechts 1 keer, 20 jaar geleden)

Alvast bedankt.

Groet,

Coen.

Apologies beforehand for this shameless website plug, but http://www.gvr-aviation.nl/portfolio/tr ... index.html gives an overview of landing at 24 at the Jelsum side. All were made with 300mm (*1.3 cropfactor) in the shoulder of the road ("in de berm") outside the field. Pretty good landingshots can be made. The landing shots were made in 2008.

[matthijso]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the spotters hill is any good for departures from 24? Do they keep them low enough to make a decent shot? I'm planning to go there on friday if the weather permits and I want to make some images with different angles, so I'm thinking of going to the 06-side in the morning and the 24-side in the afternoon.

TIA,
Matthijs

[frank kramer]

Hi Matthijs, generally speaking, it is not a "good" departure location. The aircraft are relatively high (and the Typhoons may be sky-high...); furthermore, due to noise abatement procedures they bank to the right (so, away from you) immediately when they get airborne. So, unless you're interested in something really different (undersides), this is not the place to be.. On the other hand, they would be sky-high on the other side (24/Jelsum-side) as well when taking off from the 06 (although they don't bank there).

[Stratofreighter]

DEAR AIRCRAFTPHOTOGRAPHERS AND ENTHOUSIASTS PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB OVER THE FENCES AND INTO THE PASTURES.

UNTIL NOW THE FARMERS SHOW TOLERANCE, BUT THIS CAN CHANGE AND THEN A FORBIDDEN AREA! ESPECIALLY FOR THE FRISIAN FLAG EXERCISE.

THIS MORNING I WITNESSED SOME PEOPLE CLIMBING A FENCH AND WALK INTO THE PASTURES!!!!! NOT TO ANY PURPOSE.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY AIRCRAFTENTHOUSIAST!!!!

THE SPOTTERHILL AND THE AERA WEST OF IT IS A VERY NICE SPOT AND FREE TO GO.

FINALLY, PLEASE DO NOT PLACE ANY KIND OF STAIRS TO THE BASEFENCES!

ENJOY FRISIAN FLAG WITH LOTS OF FRIENDLY PILOTS AND UNITS WHO EVEN COME IN THE EARLY HOURS TO THE FENCES TO SELL FF 2012 STUFF

En een herhaling in het Nederlands:

-Blijf uit de weilanden, dus ook niet over de hekken klimmen.

-Geen ladders tegen de hekken langs het terrein van de vliegbasis.

-En anders kunnen er gewoon grote delen worden afgezet, verboden voor spotters...
Het geduld en begrip van de plaatselijke boeren is niet eindeloos zoals op het lokale forum
http://milspotters.nl/forum/viewforum.php?f=2 wel eens naar voren komt...