EHAM 02-07-2012 MIL

[YS11]

Will it be visible on FR24?

No, not visible as aircraft is non-ADS-B.

Arrival on blocks now set on 1351lt..

Half an hour to go and not showing on radar yet... 13:51 will be very (too?) tight!

1411C

[Seagull]

Now decending from FL380 to FL360, so it's on his way.

[Derice]

Runway exp?

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[Bennie]

Now showing 40NM East of Munster!

[falcon01]

18r

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[falcon01]

124.875 For 18r

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ZD953 op 7500 ft

[nustyR]

Visual vanaf de polderbaan

[gulf_5]

Got it !!! Thanks for the updates all the way.
In around 1415... At the blocks 10 minutes after. So ETD is around 1625? (2h after arrival, as mentioned earlier)
Exp rwy for T/O is 24? Anyone who can confirm this? Thanks

NustyR, we zagen je rijden, maar waar ging jij in vredesnaam naartoe? Ik reken op pics

edit: corrected some typo's in the timings

[nustyR]

Exp rwy for T/O is 24? Anyone who can confirm this? Thanks

Ze moet richting de UK, als 18L ook open is krijgt ze nog steeds 24.

NustyR, we zagen je rijden, maar waar ging jij in vredesnaam naartoe? Ik reken op pics

Fietspad Polderbaan, dan had ik de zon aan e goede kant. Overigens geldt dit ook voor de heathaze

[Bennie]

She'll be departing from RWY24 shortly!

[Borobudur]

Ascot3723 left 2min ago rwy 24

[Piet Luijken]

Just to be sure, ZD953 visual IDed.
Thanks for all the info, guys!

[RobertMB]

ZD953... Fantastic, what beauty !

No, not visible as aircraft is non-ADS-B.

No, not visible as (ZD953 and/or RRRxxxx) is non-ADS-B ?

Well I'll try to explain what "the problem" is of aircraft look like playing hide and seek at SBS/Airnav boxes (or at our PC screens, e.g. FR24)

Yes, visible as ZD953 is Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast equipped (as part of its Certificate of Military Registration) and still using ICAO 24-bit address "Mode S (Selective) hex-code" 43C1C4 !

But NOT visible as the coupled database, in this case of FR24, isn't up to date.... An SBS/AirNav box is only a receiver of a transmitterresponder signal (simply said: one way signaltraffic from the transponder to the box) and can't interrogate and respond like a Secondary Surveillance Radar system (that has, simply said: 2-way "ask and answer" signaltraffic between SSR and ransponder).
So an SBS/AirNav box needs a transponder with a coupled GPS (of course) AND a database of ICAO 24-bit adresses as reference. The box can't place the "blip" without GPS on your screen (as I said before, can't interrogate). When the SBS/AirnNav box "knows" to place the "blip" (with the help of GPS) on your screen it's just a peace of cake to "check" its coupled database immediately and able to translate the received data signal part of the transponder 's unique ICAO 24-bit address and "the messagetag" appears at your box (or PC) screen

Another issue: when flightcrew is entering wrong flight identity into their Mode S transponder it leads to "misscommunication" between Mode S / SSR (and the possibility of problems when ATC/ACC/UAC's receiving wrong radar info and can disturb the preplanned guidance, planning of a radar controlled area/airway and/of (Upper) Airspace and another e.g.: a (digital)communication problem with the "wrong aircraft" ...)

BR,

Robert