Norwegian C-130J missing

[Stratofreighter]

According to http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... F1.8278564
both "black boxes" have now been recovered.

[michel N]

And Norway has ordered a new C-130J. Delivery 2015, according to press release.

[Stratofreighter]

According to http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx? ... Id=7098973 ,
translated at
http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... %3D7098973 ,
the accident report will not be published until December.

[Stratofreighter]

http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/ingen ... 750628.svd

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 750628.svd

No warning before crash

The crew of the Norwegian Hercules planes that crashed on Kebnekaise death had absolutely no warning of the danger. They flew in clouds and aircraft systems cautioned not for a collision with the ground.

December 12, 2012 at 20:43, Updated: 12 december 2012 at 23:19

According to the new information on the crash on March 15 this year, when all five people on board were killed.

Already JAIC first findings at the site indicated that the plane flew too low and straight into the rock wall.

Had the plane been 70 feet higher had passed freely over the ridge.

In August there was the plane's so-called black boxes that contain recordings of crew conversations and technical records. The analysis of these now almost complete.

- There is no indication that the crew was aware of the danger. Nothing in the new information we have received contradicting it, says investigators Agne Widholm at the Swedish Accident Investigation Board to Svenska Dagbladet.

Hercules plane had both an advanced radar systems to warn of a collision with the ground. Prior to the passage of the massif, the systems are not tuned for that, but for the planned landing in Kiruna, shows the black box with the registrations.

- We have not found any technical errors and systems has not given any collision. It is technically complicated, but depending on how you use the system, you can get various alerts.
But there is no warning and no evasive action, says Agne Widholm.

The Norwegian Major General Morten Haga Lunde has previously led Hercules-dressing and self flown Hercules. He confirms to Svenska Dagbladet that it is possible to set the system board so that they do not warn of collision.

- The crew had no time to react, most likely, they have been in good faith. It is appalling. We hope in the final report to answer why the equipment did not give the warnings that might be expected, says Major General Lunde.


Both he and Agne Widholm participated Wednesday in a beautiful and touching ceremony in Kiruna then twelve mountain hunters got a medal for risking their own lives have searched for the plane.

The five fatalities were honored and 220 people participated in the rescue and relief work were thanked by the National Commissioner Bengt Svenson and Supreme Commander Sverker Goranson.

When the plane disappeared without a trace, it was a great räddningspådrag in time where the Home Guard Lapland Hunter, rescue, police and ortbefolkning included.

The crash had triggered an avalanche that covered the remains of the plane so that air reconnaissance was unsuccessful. The hurricane winds searched mountain hunters after crash site encountered another half day after the crash.

The five crew members were killed when the Norwegian Hercules plane crashed in the Kebnekaise massif March 15 was honored yesterday at a ceremony in Kiruna.

[hammarö]

The newly released crash investigation cannot find any thought from the crash.

As earlier stated by Stratofreighter.

All systems worked as directed. The crew had not a chance.

The airplane were prepared to land at Kiruna airport, when they crashed in the Swedish highest mountain massive Kebnekaise.

[Gotham]

I remember that day like it was yesterday. I was in the exercise and we flew out of Evenes whit the danish 101. Exercise war was in full swing that day - I was well into a planning on a new mission. When we got the first messages that a C-130 was flown into a mountain. It is very normal when planning that you run multiple missions. When we got the info here - I thought it was just a in play to the exercise. But it was found out quickly that it was not a exercise in play. There were only four black holes in the mountain wall.

[Stratofreighter]

http://www.havkom.se/virtupload/content/112/2.jpg

For some
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/ ... ost8111269
and further on could be interesting reading.

The final report was, after numerous delays, published on Tuesday 22 October 2013 at http://havkom.se .

[hammarö]

Today is the accident report published.

http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/darfo ... 643496.svd (swedish).

The C-130 had all of the safety systems closed. They also lacked a navigator. Therefore trusted the crew the swedish flight leader! (flygledare on swedish). The flight leader were also newly educated. There is no "steps" in mature degree. And he worked alone.

The flight leaders in Kiruna had no experience of incoming planes from west. No radar cover. The flight leaders did not knew the Norwegian C-130 position. The information from the flight leaders did not follow the roles. The haverikommission points on lack of safety culture. Also lacking in use of term and conceptions.

The haverikommission claims that the swedish Luftverket had to make a safety expectation.

[Stratofreighter]

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http://www.havkom.se/virtupload/content/112/23.jpg

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/ ... ost8111269
provides the final conclusions of both language-versions in
an English translation.

The original poster at Pprune is a native Norwegian.

[hammarö]

The Swedish paper Svenska Dagbladet Mikael Holmström (right) criticize very hard the Swedish Luftfartsverket for the accident. Statens haverikommission in the accident report points heavy 22 faults, and the Swedish Luftfartsverket says "not or faught".

Mikael Holmström also says with that point of view it could be dangerous to fly in Sweden. The Swedish Luftfartsverket has to improve the safety culture. "It could very soon be a new accident".

He also mention the earlier seven helicopter accidents causing 14 lifes. Reason reorganizations and unclear decision borders.

[Stratofreighter]

A good summary in English now at
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ng-392245/