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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

Post by EvD »

Thanks, this helps to cross check some stuff.

The Mirage IIIE visible from the static was parked head-on, so South of the hangar.
It was not silver but camouflaged and had the SPA95 black/yellow pennant, so should have once belonged to EC 01.003.
Based on that, I assume it was 624/3-IZ. Do you have a picture of that? It should have been quite near the SW corner, I should say the third or fourth a/c eastward, facing the southern wall of the Poulmic hangars.

In any case the westernmost five to seven aircraft from both the northern as southern side of the Poulmic hangar would be most helpful :-)

To all: please bear in mind that they actually move around aircraft each day, some could be in the same spot for months or even years whereas others seen inside a month ago are now outside and the other way around.

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Gambler77 wrote:Noted Outside Poulmic Hangar earlier this year (amongst some others in the North, wich I have to look up from pictures first) :

(west side)
75/12-ZA Mirage F.1C EC02.012
246/30-SE Mirage F.1CT EC03.030
24/AW Mirage IVA spec. c/s
01/-- Mirage IVP spec. c/s
53/BZ Mirage IVP fuselage
31/BD Mirage IVP
E69/314-TO AlphaJet E grey c/s
403/13-QB Mirage IIIE silver c/s

(east side)
55/CB Mirage IVP
32/BE Mirage IVA
54/CA Mirage IVP
37/5-NF M.2000C EC01.005 / C.46
38/12-ZC Mirage F.1C EC02.012
264/33-FX Mirage F.1CT

Maybe this is of some help to somebody to compare with what's been noted over the last weekend.

Great job everyone!
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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MF1 238 should be 248 because 238 was still at Orange museum a week ago as 33-FM ;-)
TB30 109 is 139

Can someone confirm 27 with 5-NT? I just read 5-NT.
There was also a '5-NT' fuselage used to instruct Brazilian mechanics back in 2008 at Orange, that was #4 and it had a white fin flash with black panther (FAB 1°GDA mks).
Also, last September, #27 was still at Toulouse-Balma - or at least there was a M2000 gia there that should be 27 ;-)

The Toulouse aircraft has probably moved here (although its last code was 5-OH iso 5-NT?)

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Arjan wrote: Hangar : Stored aircraft
Mirage F-1B 516/112-SI
Mirage F-1CT 227/330-AA
Mirage F-1CT 236/112-QR
Mirage F-1CT 238/30-QC
Mirage F-1CR 603/112-NU
Mirage F-1CR 613/112-CC
Mirage F-1CR 636/118-NL
Mirage F-1CR 637/112-CP
Mirage F-1CR 641/112-NI
Mirage F-1CR 656/112-CS
Mirage 2000C 5/115-OT
Mirage 2000C 27/5-NT Fuselage only
Mirage 2000B 507/5-O., 519/5-OW
TB-30 14/315-UM
TB-30 21/315-UT
TB-30 62/315-WE
TB-30 36/315-VI
TB-30 110/F-SEXV/4
TB-30 109/315-ZD
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Two more read in scrap area (fr outside):
Mirage F1C-200 210
Jaguar A A100

Also, I read the Mirage IIIE as 429/2-LO
N262 86 had code 316-DD

Mirage 2000B in the DBR area was 515 not 506, but that was pointed out already.

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Arjan wrote: Scrap area; (amongst many others)
Mirage IVA (21)/AT
Mirage IVA 47/BT
Mirage IVA 20 Tail only
Mirage IVA 34/BG Fuselage only
Mirage IVA 13/AL
Mirage F-1C 02 Desert c/s
Mirage F-1C 213 Desert c/s
Mirage F-1C 5
Mirage F-1C 31 Tiger mks
Nord 262 86
Jaguar E E32
Jaguar E E2
Jaguar E E19
Jaguar A A17
Jaguar A A160
Mirage 52
Mirage IIIE 2-LO Parked on grass?
CM-170 423 PdF

Ramp near scrap area; (amongst others, no order of presence noted)
Mirage F-1CR 650/112-NZ
C-160 61-ZB
C-160 61-MX
C-160 61-MH
C-160 61-MP
Nord 262 107, 93, 83, 80, 91, 87, 64, 110, 77, 66, 68, 76, 81, 83, 88, 92, 94, 105, 106, 108, 109
Falcon 20 95/F-RAED, 260/F-RAEA
Falcon 20SNA 115/339-JG, 451/339-JC, 463/339-JE

DBR Training area;(amongst others)
C-160 R46/61-MR
Mirage 2000C 18/5-NP
Mirage 2000B 506?
Jaguar A A33
Jaguar A A40
Mirage IIIE 494
Mirage IIIE 534/3-XB
Mirage F-1C 33/30-FS
Mirage F-1C 68 Special tail
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Polleke_NL wrote:
K2G wrote:

PdF:

F-TERH /3
F-TERB / 0
F-UHRE /8
F-UHRT /7
F-TELL / 6 88
F-TENE /5 73
F-UHRW / 4 166
F-TERQ / 3 95
F-UHRF / 2 46
F-TERR / 1 114
Is anyone able to fill in the missing serials on this list?
TERH = E94
TREB = E163
UHRE = E44
UHRT = E152
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Arjan wrote:Thanks again for all the updates! Made a new overview;

First line on the left side of the runway;
Falcon 20SNA 131
Falcon 20 F-RAEG
Falcon 20 F-RAEH
CM-170 426
CM-170 537
CM-170 425
CM-170 Blue nose
CM-170 407
CM-170 55/312-HB Red nose
Mirage IIIE 526
CM-170 567/VF PdF c/s
TB-30 13/315-UL Fuselage

Please feel free to amend!
The CM170 with the blue nose was reported as 210 in the past.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Arjan wrote:Thanks again for all the updates! Made a new overview;

Chateaudun 01-06-2013
DBR Training area;(amongst others)
C-160 R46/61-MR
Mirage 2000C 18/5-NP
Mirage 2000B 506?
Jaguar A A33
Jaguar A A40
Mirage IIIE 494
Mirage IIIE 534/3-XB
Mirage F-1C 33/30-FS
Mirage F-1C 68 Special tail
Please feel free to amend!
I noted only ONE Mirage IIIE in the BDR Training area.
Mirage 2000B was read as 515.
Also two C160 fuselages nearby, should be 16 and 100.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Good to see that there are still updates coming in! Will post a new list soon.

@K2G: Just to be sure, which MIII did you see in the BDRT area..might have missed your earlier post?

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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Arjan wrote:Good to see that there are still updates coming in! Will post a new list soon.

@K2G: Just to be sure, which MIII did you see in the BDRT area..might have missed your earlier post?

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I don't know which one. But I only noted one example.
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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K2G wrote:
TERH = E94
TREB = E163
UHRE = E44
UHRT = E152
Thanks for this, assume TREB should read TERB ?
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Polleke_NL wrote:
K2G wrote:
TERH = E94
TREB = E163
UHRE = E44
UHRT = E152
Thanks for this, assume TREB should read TERB ?
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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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BDRT area earlier this year. For comparison.

303/33-TM M.IIIR
494/-- M.IIIE
520/3-IT M.IIIE
534/3-XB M.IIIE

68/-- F.1 white tail with some BA.279 maintenance batch in it
33/30-FS F.1
651/33-NB F.1CR

11/5-OF M.2000C blue arrow in tail
515/5-OG M.2000B

A33/-- Jag.A
A40/-- Jag.A
A2/11-RA Jag.A

46/61-MR C.160
R16/ code?


Rest on the ramp i'm not sure if it belongs to BDRT area.

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Re: Chateaudun BA 279 june 2nd 2013

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Morning all,

Although we didn't spend as much time at the fence as we would have liked, I am fairly satisfied with identifying all we did see. Poulmic aircraft remain my one wee issue from the show side as have confirmed A129 and A75 from photos and am happy with another four being A22, A73, A148 and A159. There were however seven Jaguar As all single seat. Have narrowed the seventh down to A25 or A153.

From anyone fortunate enough with a major lens or a walkabout across there, confirm either? Many thanks.

Regards
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