The second Rafale was 133 and EF2000 7L-WB (plus at least 1 more) were in the hangar behind the Red Bull B-24 and SycamoreThomas266 wrote:The second Polish Mig 29 was 38, regret to say no clue about the others.Crowflight wrote:A few notes/additions/queries from my visit to Zelweg on Friday;
EF2000
7L-WF flew in Interception Demonstration & again for solo display
7L-WI flew in Interception Demonstration
7L-WJ seen in hanger at beginning of show (presume it was a spare for opening demonstration)
7L-WK flew in historic flypast
7L-WL static
7L-WN flew in opening demonstration
S-70
6M-BC static
6M-BA, BB, BG, BH, flew in combat demonstration
? one more seen on far side
PC-6
3G-EB, ED, EF, EH, EN, on farside
3G-EK static
M346 was CPX622
L-19E on farside was 3A-BM next to S-91 3F-SR,
? Rafale C Armee de l'air (with 142/4-CU)
? MiG-29 Polish AF (with 105)
? spare Aguilla CASA 101EB
? spare/s FT MB339
Andy
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
7L-WE was to the right of WB (both seen & read by us on Fridaymorning when the left hangar door was ajar for 20 mins or so)W&R wrote:
The second Rafale was 133 and EF2000 7L-WB (plus at least 1 more) were in the hangar behind the Red Bull B-24 and Sycamore
Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
Hi all,
Anyone for the serials of the 6 PC7's in hangar 1 ?
And the serials of team Orlik?
Many thanks
Anyone for the serials of the 6 PC7's in hangar 1 ?
And the serials of team Orlik?
Many thanks
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
Hi all,
serials of team Orlik:
050, 051, 048, 049, 043, 038, 040, 042
serials of team Orlik:
050, 051, 048, 049, 043, 038, 040, 042
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
Thank you typing all this out, Frank. I hope to have some additions later (also some queries) but for now the 2 Swiss F-5E's were J-3070 & J-3097.frank kramer wrote: E45/F-TETF/6 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E79/F-TENA/4 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E88/F-TELL/7 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E114/F-TERR/2 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E119/F-UGFE/3 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E139/F-UGFC/8 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E146/F-UHRR/1 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E162/F-TERJ/0 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E166/F-UHRW/5 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
Still, this list also has some gaps. I did not see all aircraft on the flightlines (like the second F-5E, the Orliks and some spares from other teams), and some that I did see I could not log. Additions therefore remain welcome!
I am curious about the P de F. I noted these numbers from the nosewheel doors: 139, 88, 45, 166, 79, 119, 114, 14(6), 68 in the order they were parked on Friday morning. (It appears that I overlooked E162.) Yet the list from Merktech has E85/8 & E97/7. Mispoles? Typos? Aircraft swaps over the weekend?
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
I only logged the ones that I actually saw on saturday. E162/0 was the single bird that arrived early on the saturday, so that would not have been on the apron on Friday. For the others, I will doublecheck my photo's tonight and get back on that.
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
I identified from photo the following Alpha Jets during their display on both Friday and Saturday:David Moore wrote:Thank you typing all this out, Frank. I hope to have some additions later (also some queries) but for now the 2 Swiss F-5E's were J-3070 & J-3097.frank kramer wrote: E45/F-TETF/6 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E79/F-TENA/4 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E88/F-TELL/7 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E114/F-TERR/2 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E119/F-UGFE/3 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E139/F-UGFC/8 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E146/F-UHRR/1 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E162/F-TERJ/0 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E166/F-UHRW/5 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
Still, this list also has some gaps. I did not see all aircraft on the flightlines (like the second F-5E, the Orliks and some spares from other teams), and some that I did see I could not log. Additions therefore remain welcome!
I am curious about the P de F. I noted these numbers from the nosewheel doors: 139, 88, 45, 166, 79, 119, 114, 14(6), 68 in the order they were parked on Friday morning. (It appears that I overlooked E162.) Yet the list from Merktech has E85/8 & E97/7. Mispoles? Typos? Aircraft swaps over the weekend?
E146/1
E114/2
E119/3
E79/4
E166/5
E45/6
E88/7
E139/8
and indeed E162/0 came in on Saturday morning.
On Friday I noted 10 Alpha Jets in total, anyone for these 2 spares?
Regards,
Hilco
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
I read E68 parked next to E146 on Friday morningHilco wrote:I identified from photo the following Alpha Jets during their display on both Friday and Saturday:David Moore wrote:Thank you typing all this out, Frank. I hope to have some additions later (also some queries) but for now the 2 Swiss F-5E's were J-3070 & J-3097.frank kramer wrote: E45/F-TETF/6 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E79/F-TENA/4 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E88/F-TELL/7 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E114/F-TERR/2 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E119/F-UGFE/3 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E139/F-UGFC/8 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E146/F-UHRR/1 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E162/F-TERJ/0 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E166/F-UHRW/5 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
Still, this list also has some gaps. I did not see all aircraft on the flightlines (like the second F-5E, the Orliks and some spares from other teams), and some that I did see I could not log. Additions therefore remain welcome!
I am curious about the P de F. I noted these numbers from the nosewheel doors: 139, 88, 45, 166, 79, 119, 114, 14(6), 68 in the order they were parked on Friday morning. (It appears that I overlooked E162.) Yet the list from Merktech has E85/8 & E97/7. Mispoles? Typos? Aircraft swaps over the weekend?
E146/1
E114/2
E119/3
E79/4
E166/5
E45/6
E88/7
E139/8
and indeed E162/0 came in on Saturday morning.
On Friday I noted 10 Alpha Jets in total, anyone for these 2 spares?
Regards,
Hilco
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
Are these MM/code confirmed by photo?
last 3 number painted on the nosewheel door
MM54477/8 MB339A 313Gr
MM54505/5 MB339A 313Gr
MM54510/10 MB339A 313Gr
MM54534/6 MB339A 313Gr
MM54539/11 MB339A 313Gr
MM54551/1 MB339A 313Gr
MM55052/4 MB339A 313Gr
MM55053/7 MB339A 313Gr
MM55054/9 MB339A 313Gr
MM55055/12 MB339A 313Gr
last 3 number painted on the nosewheel door
MM54477/8 MB339A 313Gr
MM54505/5 MB339A 313Gr
MM54510/10 MB339A 313Gr
MM54534/6 MB339A 313Gr
MM54539/11 MB339A 313Gr
MM54551/1 MB339A 313Gr
MM55052/4 MB339A 313Gr
MM55053/7 MB339A 313Gr
MM55054/9 MB339A 313Gr
MM55055/12 MB339A 313Gr
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
I can confirm all of the above complete serials with their codes from photo.Starfighter_F-104G wrote:Are these MM/code confirmed by photo?
last 3 number painted on the nosewheel door
MM54477/8 MB339A 313Gr
MM54505/5 MB339A 313Gr
MM54510/10 MB339A 313Gr
MM54534/6 MB339A 313Gr
MM54539/11 MB339A 313Gr
MM54551/1 MB339A 313Gr
MM55052/4 MB339A 313Gr
MM55053/7 MB339A 313Gr
MM55054/9 MB339A 313Gr
MM55055/12 MB339A 313Gr
Best regards, Hilco
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
I can read both the nosewheel code AND the full MM on the tail end in my pics from saturday, so yes, I can confirm these.Starfighter_F-104G wrote:Are these MM/code confirmed by photo?
last 3 number painted on the nosewheel door
MM54477/8 MB339A 313Gr
MM54505/5 MB339A 313Gr
MM54510/10 MB339A 313Gr
MM54534/6 MB339A 313Gr
MM54539/11 MB339A 313Gr
MM54551/1 MB339A 313Gr
MM55052/4 MB339A 313Gr
MM55053/7 MB339A 313Gr
MM55054/9 MB339A 313Gr
MM55055/12 MB339A 313Gr
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
Doublechecked my pics as promised and the tie-ups of the nine I logged are correct (and, as a consequence, Merktech's aren't). As mentioned, I did not see the spare one myself so I didn't log that.frank kramer wrote:I only logged the ones that I actually saw on saturday. E162/0 was the single bird that arrived early on the saturday, so that would not have been on the apron on Friday. For the others, I will doublecheck my photo's tonight and get back on that.
Frank Kramer
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
Hi all,
Anyone for the serials of the 4 OH58's on the other side?
Thans.
Anyone for the serials of the 4 OH58's on the other side?
Thans.
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Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
I only noted the 3 OH-58's which took off from the other side for the combat demonstration. These were 3C-OE, 3C-OL and 3C-OC. I didn't see a 4th one on the other side.Verheijen wrote:Hi all,
Anyone for the serials of the 4 OH58's on the other side?
Thans.
Re: Zeltweg Airpower Airshow Austria 2/3sep2016: participant
There were 10 park in a row of friday mid afternoon, in parking order, 139, 88, 45, 166, 79, 119, 114, 146, 68, 162David Moore wrote: E45/F-TETF/6 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E79/F-TENA/4 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E88/F-TELL/7 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E114/F-TERR/2 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E119/F-UGFE/3 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E139/F-UGFC/8 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E146/F-UHRR/1 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E162/F-TERJ/0 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
E166/F-UHRW/5 Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300
Still, this list also has some gaps. I did not see all aircraft on the flightlines (like the second F-5E, the Orliks and some spares from other teams), and some that I did see I could not log. Additions therefore remain welcome!
Thank you typing all this out, Frank. I hope to have some additions later (also some queries) but for now the 2 Swiss F-5E's were J-3070 & J-3097.
I am curious about the P de F. I noted these numbers from the nosewheel doors: 139, 88, 45, 166, 79, 119, 114, 14(6), 68 in the order they were parked on Friday morning. (It appears that I overlooked E162.) Yet the list from Merktech has E85/8 & E97/7. Mispoles? Typos? Aircraft swaps over the weekend?
For the benefit of Mr. Kite, there will be a show tonight on trampoline