Stans Buochs 2017
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Stans Buochs 2017
Thursday 12/01/2017
Wooden hall
PC-21 RAAF
A54-001/HB-HWA
A54-002
A54-003
A54-004/HB-HWD
A54-005/HB-HWE
A54-006
A54-007
PC-21 RJAF
1170/HB-HXA
1171/HB-HXB
1172/HB-HXC
1173
The old airforce hangar at the Airport
A54-008 PC-21 RAAF
1174 PC-21 RJAF
There was also a white PC-7 with red patches in the hangar next to the PC-24 production line. And a red PC-7 HB- in the overhall hangar.
Wooden hall
PC-21 RAAF
A54-001/HB-HWA
A54-002
A54-003
A54-004/HB-HWD
A54-005/HB-HWE
A54-006
A54-007
PC-21 RJAF
1170/HB-HXA
1171/HB-HXB
1172/HB-HXC
1173
The old airforce hangar at the Airport
A54-008 PC-21 RAAF
1174 PC-21 RJAF
There was also a white PC-7 with red patches in the hangar next to the PC-24 production line. And a red PC-7 HB- in the overhall hangar.
Re: Stans Buochs 2017
19/01/2017
Additions to above log:
HB-HWB for 02
HB-HWF for 06
HB-HXD for 1173
A54-008 now in wooden hall
The full serials of the Australian PC-21s are taped over, only the last two digits are visible on the nose. A54-007 and A54-008 were the only aircraft still without taped s/n.
Additions to above log:
HB-HWB for 02
HB-HWF for 06
HB-HXD for 1173
A54-008 now in wooden hall
The full serials of the Australian PC-21s are taped over, only the last two digits are visible on the nose. A54-007 and A54-008 were the only aircraft still without taped s/n.
Re: Stans Buochs 2017
10/02/2017
A54-001 and 002 PC-21 RAAF will start their delivery flight today via Brindisi and Heraklion.
Gtz
A54-001 and 002 PC-21 RAAF will start their delivery flight today via Brindisi and Heraklion.
Gtz
Re: Stans Buochs 2017
According to the flightplans it will be the A54-002 and 004
Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Then we shall agree to disagree . I have HB-HWA (001) and HWB(002) . Hopefully one of the local spotters noted them with the Mk1 Eyeballcis wrote:According to the flightplans it will be the A54-002 and 004
Gtz
Re: Stans Buochs 2017
So now we agree my info was wrong
FR24 shows both HWA and HWB departing Buochs.
FR24 shows both HWA and HWB departing Buochs.
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Seen on Thursday, 16 February at Stans:
- Hangar 12:
PC-21, sn 242, A54-009, allready painted
PC-21, sn 243, A54-010, in primer
PC-21, sn 293, in primer (must be the first for France or Great Britain (ETPS), because the Australian serials are 234-282, the Jordanians 283-292)
- Woodenhall (Hangar 9):
PC-21, sn 236, A54-003, HB-HWC
PC-21, sn 241, A54-008, HB-HWH
PC-21, sn 283-285, 1170-1173, HB-HXA-HXC
PC-21, sn 286, 1173, HB-HXD
PC-21, sn 287, 1174, to be HB-HXE
- PC-21 flying:
sn 237, A54-004, HB-HWD, training of australien Pilot
sn 238, A54-005, HB-HWE, Training of australien Pilot
sn 240, A54-007, HB-HWG, first flight
PC-12:
sn 1686, HB-FRA, departed for Prestwick
sn 1691, HB-FRF, engine tests
sn 1697, towed to the painting hall
- Maintenance
PC-6, sn 815, EC-IBY, outside
PC-7, sn 538, L-01, test flight after modernisation
PC-12, sn 498, EC-ISH, outside
PC-12, sn 847, D-FFHZ, outside
PC-12, sn 1521, HB-FWM, outside,
Regards, Stephan Widmer
- Hangar 12:
PC-21, sn 242, A54-009, allready painted
PC-21, sn 243, A54-010, in primer
PC-21, sn 293, in primer (must be the first for France or Great Britain (ETPS), because the Australian serials are 234-282, the Jordanians 283-292)
- Woodenhall (Hangar 9):
PC-21, sn 236, A54-003, HB-HWC
PC-21, sn 241, A54-008, HB-HWH
PC-21, sn 283-285, 1170-1173, HB-HXA-HXC
PC-21, sn 286, 1173, HB-HXD
PC-21, sn 287, 1174, to be HB-HXE
- PC-21 flying:
sn 237, A54-004, HB-HWD, training of australien Pilot
sn 238, A54-005, HB-HWE, Training of australien Pilot
sn 240, A54-007, HB-HWG, first flight
PC-12:
sn 1686, HB-FRA, departed for Prestwick
sn 1691, HB-FRF, engine tests
sn 1697, towed to the painting hall
- Maintenance
PC-6, sn 815, EC-IBY, outside
PC-7, sn 538, L-01, test flight after modernisation
PC-12, sn 498, EC-ISH, outside
PC-12, sn 847, D-FFHZ, outside
PC-12, sn 1521, HB-FWM, outside,
Regards, Stephan Widmer
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Seen on Thursday, 16 February at Stans:
- Hangar 12:
PC-21, sn 242, A54-009, allready painted
PC-21, sn 243, A54-010, in primer
PC-21, sn 293, in primer (must be the first for France or Great Britain (ETPS), because the Australian serials are 234-282, the Jordanians 283-292)
- Woodenhall (Hangar 9):
PC-21, sn 236, A54-003, HB-HWC
PC-21, sn 241, A54-008, HB-HWH
PC-21, sn 283-285, 1170-1173, HB-HXA-HXC
PC-21, sn 286, 1173, HB-HXD
PC-21, sn 287, 1174, to be HB-HXE
- PC-21 flying:
sn 237, A54-004, HB-HWD, training of australien Pilot
sn 238, A54-005, HB-HWE, Training of australien Pilot
sn 240, A54-007, HB-HWG, first flight
PC-12:
sn 1686, HB-FRA, departed for Prestwick
sn 1691, HB-FRF, engine tests
sn 1697, towed to the painting hall
- Maintenance
PC-6, sn 815, EC-IBY, outside
PC-7, sn 538, L-01, test flight after modernisation
PC-12, sn 498, EC-ISH, outside
PC-12, sn 847, D-FFHZ, outside
PC-12, sn 1521, HB-FWM, outside,
Regards, Stephan Widmer
- Hangar 12:
PC-21, sn 242, A54-009, allready painted
PC-21, sn 243, A54-010, in primer
PC-21, sn 293, in primer (must be the first for France or Great Britain (ETPS), because the Australian serials are 234-282, the Jordanians 283-292)
- Woodenhall (Hangar 9):
PC-21, sn 236, A54-003, HB-HWC
PC-21, sn 241, A54-008, HB-HWH
PC-21, sn 283-285, 1170-1173, HB-HXA-HXC
PC-21, sn 286, 1173, HB-HXD
PC-21, sn 287, 1174, to be HB-HXE
- PC-21 flying:
sn 237, A54-004, HB-HWD, training of australien Pilot
sn 238, A54-005, HB-HWE, Training of australien Pilot
sn 240, A54-007, HB-HWG, first flight
PC-12:
sn 1686, HB-FRA, departed for Prestwick
sn 1691, HB-FRF, engine tests
sn 1697, towed to the painting hall
- Maintenance
PC-6, sn 815, EC-IBY, outside
PC-7, sn 538, L-01, test flight after modernisation
PC-12, sn 498, EC-ISH, outside
PC-12, sn 847, D-FFHZ, outside
PC-12, sn 1521, HB-FWM, outside,
Regards, Stephan Widmer
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Noted on 20-02-2017 in the morning.
Woodenhall
PC-21 for Jordan
1170
1171
1172
1173
1174
PC-21 for Australia
A54-003
A54-004
A54-005
A54-006
A54-007
A54-008
Hangar 12 (this is the hangar at the airport)
All PC-21
A54-009 for Australia
288 (1175) in full c/s, for Jordan
289 in primer, for Jordan
293 in primer, for France or UK
294 in primer, for France or UK
In this hangar is also a primer PC-9 or 7 with number 779
Maintenance hangar 10
538 L-01 PC-7 Klu
Visiting was PC-21 A-108 from the Swiss AF.
Regards,
Arnold Booy,
Jan-Pieter Bergmans.
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PC-21 for Jordan
1170
1171
1172
1173
1174
PC-21 for Australia
A54-003
A54-004
A54-005
A54-006
A54-007
A54-008
Hangar 12 (this is the hangar at the airport)
All PC-21
A54-009 for Australia
288 (1175) in full c/s, for Jordan
289 in primer, for Jordan
293 in primer, for France or UK
294 in primer, for France or UK
In this hangar is also a primer PC-9 or 7 with number 779
Maintenance hangar 10
538 L-01 PC-7 Klu
Visiting was PC-21 A-108 from the Swiss AF.
Regards,
Arnold Booy,
Jan-Pieter Bergmans.
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Noted on 08-03-2017 early in the morning.
Woodenhall
PC-21 for Jordan
1170/HB-HXA
1171/HB-HXB
1172/HB-HXC
1173/HB-HXD
1174 no civil s/n
PC-21 for Australia
A54-003/HB-HWC
A54-004/HB-HWD
A54-005/HB-HWE
A54-006/HB-HWF c/n 239, later on parked outside
A54-007/HB-HWG
(A54-008)
A54-009 no civil s/n
Hangar 12 (this is the hangar at the airport)
(288/1175) in full c/s, for Jordan
A54-010 for Australia
293 in primer, for France or UK
294 in primer, for France or UK
Maintenance hangar 10
538 L-01 PC-7 Klu
Regards Erik-Jan, Joris, Corné and René
Woodenhall
PC-21 for Jordan
1170/HB-HXA
1171/HB-HXB
1172/HB-HXC
1173/HB-HXD
1174 no civil s/n
PC-21 for Australia
A54-003/HB-HWC
A54-004/HB-HWD
A54-005/HB-HWE
A54-006/HB-HWF c/n 239, later on parked outside
A54-007/HB-HWG
(A54-008)
A54-009 no civil s/n
Hangar 12 (this is the hangar at the airport)
(288/1175) in full c/s, for Jordan
A54-010 for Australia
293 in primer, for France or UK
294 in primer, for France or UK
Maintenance hangar 10
538 L-01 PC-7 Klu
Regards Erik-Jan, Joris, Corné and René
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
I will be visiting Buochs coming week, and although I've been here a few times I'm not sure which hangar is meant here and from where you can have a good view. Advice would be welcome!Hangar 12 (this is the hangar at the airport)
Cheers,
Patrick Dirksen
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Hello Patrick,patrick dirksen wrote:I will be visiting Buochs coming week, and although I've been here a few times I'm not sure which hangar is meant here and from where you can have a good view. Advice would be welcome!Hangar 12 (this is the hangar at the airport)
This is the hangar behind the preserved Mirage 3S, J-2313.
I think the best spot is N46.97144, E8.399150.
René
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Hi René,
That's great, thanks. Since this hangar has annoying glass in the doors, best bet would be when it is still dark outside and lights are on inside I'm sure.
Well, the results will be posted here next week I hope!
That's great, thanks. Since this hangar has annoying glass in the doors, best bet would be when it is still dark outside and lights are on inside I'm sure.
Well, the results will be posted here next week I hope!
Cheers,
Patrick Dirksen
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Re: Stans Buochs 2017
Hi all,
Note to self: Good Friday is a collective "day off" in Switzerland, so Pilatus will be closed....
For us this meant there was no light on in the wooden hangar on Friday morning, and most inmates escaped identification unfortunately.
Positively identified were Australian HB-HWH/08 and HB-HWI/09. Also seen were a dark coloured one with white code 12 and a light coloured one with code 10. Both don't fit the expectations.
The hangar at the airport held Jordanian 1176 in full c/s, French 709-FC in full c/s and c/n 290, 296 and 297 in primer (in between the French and Jordanian) plus c/n 244 in primer apart from all the rest. Also present was a yellow/red PC-7 that looked stored, probably a civil one.
The maintenance hall held Dutch PC-7 538 (L-01), PC-12 HB-FOG of Armasuisse and former Botswana HB-HMX (ex OD-1) plus preserved Mirage J-2313 in front of it. No sign of the Argentinian PC-6 anymore by the way.
Based on the known info I presumed the French one to be the third in line (with codes starting 709-FA and further) and having c/n 295. That would fit with 293 being the first aircraft after the Jordanian batch. However FA and FB haven't been seen so far, and a very recent log on MSF had both FC and 295 seen separately. No mention of c/n's 293 and 294 in that log by the way. So I guess we'll have to wait a bit more to get this sorted.
Any info on numbers 10 and 12 we saw is welcome of course.
Note to self: Good Friday is a collective "day off" in Switzerland, so Pilatus will be closed....
For us this meant there was no light on in the wooden hangar on Friday morning, and most inmates escaped identification unfortunately.
Positively identified were Australian HB-HWH/08 and HB-HWI/09. Also seen were a dark coloured one with white code 12 and a light coloured one with code 10. Both don't fit the expectations.
The hangar at the airport held Jordanian 1176 in full c/s, French 709-FC in full c/s and c/n 290, 296 and 297 in primer (in between the French and Jordanian) plus c/n 244 in primer apart from all the rest. Also present was a yellow/red PC-7 that looked stored, probably a civil one.
The maintenance hall held Dutch PC-7 538 (L-01), PC-12 HB-FOG of Armasuisse and former Botswana HB-HMX (ex OD-1) plus preserved Mirage J-2313 in front of it. No sign of the Argentinian PC-6 anymore by the way.
Based on the known info I presumed the French one to be the third in line (with codes starting 709-FA and further) and having c/n 295. That would fit with 293 being the first aircraft after the Jordanian batch. However FA and FB haven't been seen so far, and a very recent log on MSF had both FC and 295 seen separately. No mention of c/n's 293 and 294 in that log by the way. So I guess we'll have to wait a bit more to get this sorted.
Any info on numbers 10 and 12 we saw is welcome of course.
Cheers,
Patrick Dirksen
Tristar Aviation
Patrick Dirksen
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