Mönchengladbach (MGL/EDLN) 2018 (CIV-MIL)

[YS11]

10-03-2018
CS-DVN C650
D-IWAW BKA200

Stored:
F-GPYN ATR42 HOP (?)
D-AELL F27-200 (WDL)
D-CNRZ BAE31
YL-TAE C414
SP-KBM C500
UR-UTE ATR42 UT AIR
2-GJSB ATR42,basic OMAN AIR, col.
OY-YBT ATR42 SATENA
ZS-OVR ATR42 DHL
(E7-AAE) ATR72 B&H AL

Inside hangar:
T7-NWW ATR72 TURKISH NAVY
79 ATR72 PAKISTAN NAVY
N63DR KODIAK 100

[AK01]

As per ADSB Pakistan Navy ATR72 serial 79 left MGL the 19th for Braunschweig on the 19th, it returned the 20th and made a local testflight the 21st returning to MGL later that day.
Callsign is showing as AR-NYL in the box. It was in full colours including serial and Pakistan Navy titels on Braunschweig.
Pieter,

[jeroenvn]

what is the construction number of this aircraft?

T7-NWW ATR72 TURKISH NAVY

CN 768 or CN 1365

[Sonny1]

what is the construction number of this aircraft?

T7-NWW ATR72 TURKISH NAVY

CN 768 or CN 1365

I don't know. I however do know that the T7-NWW looks exactly like F-WWEG (note the primer pattern behind /around the door) reported as 768.

F-WWEG (photo date dec. 2007) http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/ph ... 9139L.html
T7-NWW (photo date feb. 2018) https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8863627

See 1365 here (photo date sep. 2016) https://www.planespotters.net/photo/728 ... 00-72-212a and decide for yourself if 1365 is your aircraft....

https://www.mgl-spotter.de/mgl-movements reports it also as 768, but I don’t know their source. If true, I doubt 768 became Turkish Navy TCB701 (reported operational multiple times, see also the net for pictures https://tinyurl.com/TCB701). My 2 cents.

[TF-104G]

I think for c/n 768
F-WWEG > CSX62290 (ATR72MUA conversion) > TCB-701 Turkish Navy > I-ESAD (starting conversion to ATR72MPA, observation window in the fuselage) to MGL later T7-NWW (conversion to ATR72MPA) later back to Turkish Navy.

[Wolbie]

27/3
11.09lt ATR72 79 Pakistan Navy currently in the air, local testflight so it seems, flying patterns west of MGL. Shows as "ARNYL" on ADS-B.

[cis]

I agree the primer details match c/n 768.

But I think it is likely NOT TCB-701 for the Turkish Navy. TCB-701 was photographed painted multiple times, and also TCB-701 was logged on ADSB (I know the hex<>serial tie up can be wrong in the databases) very often. This hex was even even logged when flying to Sigonella (along with TCB-702!) this month and it was filed on its flightplan as an AT76. As far as I know the 4 ASW versions have not been delivered yet. So that would 'prove' the hex assumed to be TCB-701 is likely to be right. And thus cn 768 can not be TCB-701.

So is this for another customer? Or one of the Turkish Navy ASW aircraft still to be delivered?

[Tim Raats]

Hi,

Just visited the airfield the Pakistan Navy aircraft is inside, but visible through thr windows. It’s behind the third door counting starting from the right side when standing at the side where the aircraft are standing that are outside. The presumably Turkish aircraft T7-NWW is outside.

Greetings,

Jasper and Tim

[witje]

A second Pakistan navy ATR arrived today: 78

[SWAT 11]

Seen this evening (04-04-2018) @ Mönchengladbach

Preserved near flightschool
D-AELL Fokker F27-200 10414 preserved

Rheinland Air Service (RAS) ramp (from left to the right)
D-FIVE TBM-700 186 private
… ATR 42-500 … scrapped leftside ramp, fuselage and tail
CS-DVF ATR 72-202 350 stored a/w, n/t
ZS-OVR ATR 42-300F 116 stored in DHL c/s, n/t
T7-NWW ATR 72-212 1365 for Pakistan Navy? (not Turkish Navy?)
2-GJSB ATR 42-500 576 stored in Oman Air c/s, n/t
N390MB Raytheon 390 Premier I RB-21 private
(E7-AAE) ATR 72-212 465 stored in BH Airlines c/s
N952WP Beech C90GTI LJ-1889 private
D-CGAA Cessna 560XL Citation XLS+ 560-6173 Air Hamburg
D-FFFH …. … …. grey/red c/s
ES-PAL P180 Avanti EVO 3006 private
M-ETAL P180 Avanti 1194 private

Rheinland Air Service (RAS) inside big hangar (from left to the right)
(78/AR-NYM) ATR 72-500 712 Pakistan Navy
(79/AR-NYL) ATR 72-500 788 Pakistan Navy
D-IBJJ Cessna 525A CitationJet CJ2 525A-0125 Elbe Air Lufttransport
SP-MXH P180 Avanti 1079 LPR Polish Medical Air Rescue
+ many more

Otherside runway by maintenance hangar
SP-KBM Cessna 500 Citation 500-0269 stored?
D-IHKW Cessna 525 CitationJet CJ1+ 525-0677
9H-PLM Cessna 650 Citation VI 650-0217
9H-LGM EMB-500 Phenom 100 50000187
D-ISGW Cessna 525 CitationJet CJ1 525-0070

Who can help me with the missing registrions, and can someone confirm the second Pakistan Navy?

best regards,

[T7]

A second Pakistan navy ATR arrived today: 78

78/AR-NYM left MGL at 1020lt eastbound on a testflight.

[SWAT 11]

I agree the primer details match c/n 768.

But I think it is likely NOT TCB-701 for the Turkish Navy. TCB-701 was photographed painted multiple times, and also TCB-701 was logged on ADSB (I know the hex<>serial tie up can be wrong in the databases) very often. This hex was even even logged when flying to Sigonella (along with TCB-702!) this month and it was filed on its flightplan as an AT76. As far as I know the 4 ASW versions have not been delivered yet. So that would 'prove' the hex assumed to be TCB-701 is likely to be right. And thus cn 768 can not be TCB-701.

So is this for another customer? Or one of the Turkish Navy ASW aircraft still to be delivered?

Just seen on ADS-B above Turkey >>> TCB-701....... ??????

[TF-104G]

T7-NWW is c/n 1365 so not ex TCB-701 c/n 766.
c/n 1365 > F-WKVF (ATR) > CSX62301 (Alenia) > I-EASD (Alenia) > T7-NWW (RAS)
and this report says an unpainted aircraft stay in MGL and is for Pakistan Navy too but only a transport aircraft.
http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/moe ... -1.7480355

[AK01]

Pakistan Navy ATR72 serial 79 is returning back to MGL at this moment.
It left MGL for Braunschweig last Monday the 9th, and flew several missions over the Ostsee from Braunschweig.
Pieter,

[CBR]

Today May 2nd Pakistan Navy ATR72 serial 79 testflight from aprox 11.35 - 16.20LT