RETURNING to USA..: US Army 4th CAB,4th Infantry Div. heli's

[Martin Uleman]

Our details are:
Serials (ICM with Check on Scramble DB) all the apaches has a name, see below:
02-05302 TYRONE BIGGEMA
02-05305 ARTEMIS
02-05317 SNAKE EYE
02-05328 MEAT TORNADO
02-05344 BIGG THIRTY
03-05386 NIKE
04-05422 LOKI
07-05514 WANDA
07-05524 NO DIGGITY
07-07036 MJÖLNIR
07-07037 ARGNAROG
07-07038 ARES
07-07041 BAD ENGLISH
07-07044 BAN HAMMER
08-05540 GUNGNIR
08-05559 LARRY
09-05584 EL CUCO
09-05595 RICO SUAVE
09-07056 THOR
09-07064 HELA
10-05626 ODIN

The next ones needs to be checked.....
We read on the datablock FY 08, according Scramble this should be 09.
08-05575 TYR
08-05582 ATHENA

The last apache has a difference between the tail and the datablock:
Read on Datablock Read on Tail Name
02-53404 25340 EL PATROL
So also this one needs to be checked out.

[Antilliaan]

Great log, many thanks for sharing!

We read both on the tail starting with a 9 iso an 8; maybe a misprint on the datablock?

El Patrol we read as El Patron, which actually is a Spanish word.

Argnarog should be Ragnarog.

Cheers!

[hendriks]

Who knows the current status of departures from Bremerhaven ?

Thansk in advance

Arie

[Koen L]

At least some have been logged on ADS-B so departures have started.

[Ecm]

Almost all are gone by now.

[Nils Berwing]

7 left at the moment.

[hendriks]

Thanks for the reply's . But sorry for asking , but 7 left at the moment means There are only 7 AH-64's still standing at the Harbour ?

[Ecm]

Thats correct. Maybe some more will leave.

[Marijn]

All the names are on top of both sides of the Apaches, near the rotorhead.
We also noted the badges (A Co= no badge (RH side), B Co = foot print, C Co = skull) on the engine exhausts:

02-05302 B TYRONE BIGGUMS
02-05305 A ARTEMIS (Skull badge left side)
02-05317 B SNAKE EYE
02-05328 B MEAT TORNADO
02-05340 A EL PATRON
02-05344 A BIGG THIRTY
03-05386 A NIKE
04-05422 C LOKI
07-05514 A WANDA (Skull badge left side)
07-05524 B NO DIGGITY
07-07036 C MJÖLNIR
07-07037 C RAGNAROK
07-07038 A ARES
07-07041 B BAD ENGLISH
07-07044 B BAN HAMMER
08-05540 C GUNGNIR
08-05559 B BAD LARRY
09-05575 C TYR
09-05582 A ATHENA
09-05584 A EL CUCO
09-05595 B RICO SUAVE
09-07056 C THOR
09-07064 C HELA
10-05626 C ODIN

[EvD]

There were at least two with the playing card of A Troop (no Company/Co. this is CAV ) from memory, the two parked most South on the quay at least.

It seems that:

A Trp uses Spanish names and casino terms (snake eyes), they have a white playing card with a red skull(?)
B Trp uses Americana (all kinds of 'cultural' figures, tv/comics), they have a bear foot / claw
C Trp uses Gods/Mythology figures (Greek/Norwegian) as names, they have a skull with crossed swords

NIKE had no markings on the port side I think? Nike is from Greek mythology, so should be C Trp?
ARTEMIS would also fit better with C Trp as does unmarked ARES

Of course some had no markings at all and they may switch around between Troops, but the ones that had markings seem to fit the pattern.

Erwin

[EvD]

Just to share some of our notes (we did not get all the markings, all apply to the port sides), colour markings to clarify agreement (green) or disagreement (red), and (blue) = could you please double check your notes to confirm?

More will become clear if they are photographed while travelling South I hope!

All the names are on top of both sides of the Apaches, near the rotorhead.
We also noted the badges (A Co= no badge, B Co = foot print, C Co = skull) on the engine exhausts:

02-05302 B TYRONE BIGGUMS
> agreed, bear foot

02-05305 A ARTEMIS
> C Troop more likely?

02-05317 B SNAKE EYE
> A Troop more likely?

02-05328 B MEAT TORNADO
> agreed, bear foot

02-05340 A EL PATRON
> agreed, playing card

02-05344 A BIGG THIRTY
03-05386 A NIKE
> unmarked, C Trp more likely

04-05422 C LOKI
07-05514 A WANDA
07-05524 B NO DIGGITY
> agreed, bear foot

07-07036 C MJÖLNIR
07-07037 C RAGNAROK
> agreed, skull

07-07038 A ARES
> unmarked, C Trp more likely

07-07041 B BAD ENGLISH
07-07044 B BAN HAMMER
08-05540 C GUNGNIR
> agreed, skull

08-05559 B BAD LARRY
> agreed, bear foot

09-05575 C TYR
09-05582 A ATHENA
> C Troop more likely?

09-05584 A EL CUCO
09-05595 B RICO SUAVE
> A Troop more likely?

09-07056 C THOR
> agreed, skull

09-07064 C HELA
> agreed, skull

10-05626 C ODIN
> agreed, skull

[Marijn]

02-05302 B TYRONE BIGGUMS
> agreed, bear foot

02-05305 A ARTEMIS
> C Troop more likely?

02-05317 B SNAKE EYE
> A Troop more likely?

02-05328 B MEAT TORNADO
> agreed, bear foot

02-05340 A EL PATRON
> agreed, playing card

02-05344 A BIGG THIRTY
03-05386 A NIKE
> unmarked, C Trp more likely

04-05422 C LOKI
07-05514 A WANDA
07-05524 B NO DIGGITY
> agreed, bear foot

07-07036 C MJÖLNIR
07-07037 C RAGNAROK
> agreed, skull

07-07038 A ARES
> unmarked, C Trp more likely

07-07041 B BAD ENGLISH
07-07044 B BAN HAMMER
08-05540 C GUNGNIR
> agreed, skull

08-05559 B BAD LARRY
> agreed, bear foot

09-05575 C TYR
09-05582 A ATHENA
> C Troop more likely?

09-05584 A EL CUCO
09-05595 B RICO SUAVE
> A Troop more likely?

09-07056 C THOR
> agreed, skull

09-07064 C HELA
> agreed, skull

10-05626 C ODIN
> agreed, skull

The units from my post were actually noted ON the aircraft and not assumed.
Only A Co ALL had no marks on the right hand side and had NO BADGE, but as B & C Co were all accounted for (16 apaches), the other eight must be A Co.
Of course these were only the badges worn, it is possible they now fly for another Co or in a pool...

Also see my addition in my post, Wanda & Artmis had a skull badge on the left hand side.
(no idea about the others as I was not able to check them all on the left side)

[EvD]

So two wore C Troop markings and a C Troop name on the LH side, but because they did not have anything on the RH/starboard side (and we neatly want 8 for each Troop) must be A Troop?

That is one leap too far for me, because there are several with no markings on the LH side that did have B/C Troop markings on the RH side. According to your "unmarked = A troop"-theory, they could just as well belong to A Troop too...
For instance 'Ares' and 'Nike'.

Hopefully, none have conflicting markings on LH/RH side. For now, I'll try to stick to the markings worn either LH or RH side

[Marijn]

No, I think the two wear A Co (or A Troop) badge (play card with red skull).
I guess the skull with the two crossed swords in C Co.

[Jan-Pieter Bergmans]

This week the USARMY announced that 1 CAB from Fort Riley, Kansas, will replace 4 CAB in operation Atlantic Resolve. Arrival in Europe expected in February 2019.

Regards,
Jan-Pieter Bergmans.