Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopters
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
Be carefull if you plan to try to make pictures or come close to the fences to read aircraft numbers.
The previouis time the US choppers came, in 2017, the area was under very carefull control by the military inside Chievres AFB and local Belgian police appeared within minutes when a car stopped close to the base and someone stared at it. The police were usually friendly and comprehensive (they gave me some tips as to the right place, a few kilometters from the base, to make pictures of the choppers flying out, on their leg to Germany) but for sure no chance to stay close to the fences with a camera. I followed police's advice and went to this point, with no view to the base but indeed allowing good pictures of the flying choppers.
The previouis time the US choppers came, in 2017, the area was under very carefull control by the military inside Chievres AFB and local Belgian police appeared within minutes when a car stopped close to the base and someone stared at it. The police were usually friendly and comprehensive (they gave me some tips as to the right place, a few kilometters from the base, to make pictures of the choppers flying out, on their leg to Germany) but for sure no chance to stay close to the fences with a camera. I followed police's advice and went to this point, with no view to the base but indeed allowing good pictures of the flying choppers.
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
SG Woensdrecht wrote:Still only 6
Yes!
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
Sitrap Zeebrugge Friday 1 Feb 12:30LT: ca. 10x CH-47 plus unknown number of UH-60 and/or AH-64 on the quayside. Some still without rotors. Very difficult to see due to fences and containers. Photography impossible. Heavy fog in the area, which probably affects flying ops?
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
I think the low cloud base is the culprit. if they fly at 1500-2500 feet they are in grey muck all the way.
Overcast was 1200-1500ft but clouds will be more broken later this afternoon.
New NOTAM for restrictions civil air traffic in Zeebrugge area from 2 to 10 February (older NOTAM was until 2 February...), so could be a lenghty process...
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B0566/19 NOTAMN
Q) EBBU/QRTCA/IV/BO /W /000/035/5118N00315E002
A) EBBU B) 1902022300 C) 1902102200
E) ZEEBRUGGE PSN 511739N0031442E TEMPORARY SEGREGATED AREA - USA OPS
FORT TO PORT 1902 - USA BASECAMP HAVEN ZEEBRUGGE ESTABLISHED
RESERVED FOR PARTICIPATING ACFT, ALL ACFT FROM AND TO EBKW AND EBZU,
SAR, STATE, MEDICAL AND HUMANITARIAN FLT. RADIUS 02NM
F) GND G) 1500FT AGL
And for Chièvres, open this weekend and at least until Wednesday 6th:
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B0580/19 NOTAMN
Q) EBBU/QFAAH/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5035N00350E005
A) EBCV B) 1901311546 C) 1902061800
E) AD HR OF OPS/SERVICE: DAILY 1000-1800
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Overcast was 1200-1500ft but clouds will be more broken later this afternoon.
New NOTAM for restrictions civil air traffic in Zeebrugge area from 2 to 10 February (older NOTAM was until 2 February...), so could be a lenghty process...
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B0566/19 NOTAMN
Q) EBBU/QRTCA/IV/BO /W /000/035/5118N00315E002
A) EBBU B) 1902022300 C) 1902102200
E) ZEEBRUGGE PSN 511739N0031442E TEMPORARY SEGREGATED AREA - USA OPS
FORT TO PORT 1902 - USA BASECAMP HAVEN ZEEBRUGGE ESTABLISHED
RESERVED FOR PARTICIPATING ACFT, ALL ACFT FROM AND TO EBKW AND EBZU,
SAR, STATE, MEDICAL AND HUMANITARIAN FLT. RADIUS 02NM
F) GND G) 1500FT AGL
And for Chièvres, open this weekend and at least until Wednesday 6th:
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B0580/19 NOTAMN
Q) EBBU/QFAAH/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5035N00350E005
A) EBCV B) 1901311546 C) 1902061800
E) AD HR OF OPS/SERVICE: DAILY 1000-1800
"
Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
Update sitrap Zeebrugge Port Fri 1 Feb 17:30LT
CH-47: 15-08195, 15-08196*, 15-08197, 15-08466*, 15-08467*, 16-09198, 16-08199*, 16-08200, 16-08201, 16-08202*
Plus several UH-60 and at least 1x AH-64.
Technicians were attaching rotors to the last Chinooks.
The Blackhawks and Apache(s?) were barely visible behind obstacles, there may be (a lot?) more.
Chinooks with a * are wearing the 1 CAB shield on the tail.
Just follow the highway from Brugge to Zeebrugge and you can't miss out the large ICO buildings on the left.
As previously mentioned: spotting is difficult, photo's impossible. Sand hill not accessible.
Good luck to those who give it a try this weekend!
CH-47: 15-08195, 15-08196*, 15-08197, 15-08466*, 15-08467*, 16-09198, 16-08199*, 16-08200, 16-08201, 16-08202*
Plus several UH-60 and at least 1x AH-64.
Technicians were attaching rotors to the last Chinooks.
The Blackhawks and Apache(s?) were barely visible behind obstacles, there may be (a lot?) more.
Chinooks with a * are wearing the 1 CAB shield on the tail.
Just follow the highway from Brugge to Zeebrugge and you can't miss out the large ICO buildings on the left.
As previously mentioned: spotting is difficult, photo's impossible. Sand hill not accessible.
Good luck to those who give it a try this weekend!
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
A blackhawk is currently performing a checkflight. Work is being done on several helicopters.
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
At Zeebrugge I presume (or at Chièvres....?)Arjan wrote:A blackhawk is currently performing a checkflight. Work is being done on several helicopters.
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
I noticed UH-60 20398 flying at 375 feet near Zeebrugge for a short while.EvD wrote:At Zeebrugge I presume (or at Chièvres....?)Arjan wrote:A blackhawk is currently performing a checkflight. Work is being done on several helicopters.
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
20225 now airborne @Zeebrugge on adsb
Also a short test flight![Smile :-)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Also a short test flight
![Smile :-)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
Yes indeed Zeebrugge
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
20459 currently at 1000ft overhead Zeebrugge
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
Correct. 412 also flew
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
Chièvres has 600ft cloudbase / overcast. Beneath that, the visibility is 9000m.
And the rest of the weather forecast says the grey muck will not clear before the evening.
In fact, that is the most thickly clouded/overcast area in whole NW Europa at this point in time![Sad :-(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
So, the problem lies there, not on the Zeebrugge side I think?
And the rest of the weather forecast says the grey muck will not clear before the evening.
In fact, that is the most thickly clouded/overcast area in whole NW Europa at this point in time
![Sad :-(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
So, the problem lies there, not on the Zeebrugge side I think?
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Re: Europe 2019: US Army 1st CAB, 1st Infantry Div. helicopt
You are correct Erwin, at this moment clear view at Zeebrugge.
We have read nine Chinooks (out of ten visible), six Apaches and seventeen Black Hawks plus two Black Hawks on ADSB.
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We have read nine Chinooks (out of ten visible), six Apaches and seventeen Black Hawks plus two Black Hawks on ADSB.
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