23oct2019: Tu160 bombers are now at Waterkloof, South Africa

Stratofreighter · Post by **Stratofreighter** » 21 Oct 2019, 15:33

Do not really know what to think of this...

Bennie · Post by **Bennie** » 21 Oct 2019, 15:45

Too bad.... both flights from Schiphol for South Africa have departed already....

Stratofreighter · Post by **Stratofreighter** » 21 Oct 2019, 17:24

...well, this one "fell out of the blue"...
https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/21/r ... th-africa/

Two Russian Blackjacks to make the type’s first ever visit to Africa.

On Oct. 22, 2019, two Russian Tu-160 Blackjack bombers
will land at Air Force Base Waterkloof in what is the first known visit of the strategic bombers to Africa.

Director at African Defence Review Darren Olivier has published on Twitter the media invite issued by the Department of Defence of the Republic of South Africa.
According to the invite, the South African Air Force will host some military aircraft belonging to the Russian Aerospace Force during their visit to the country.

https://theaviationist.com/2019/10/21/r ... th-africa/

frank kramer · Post by **frank kramer** » 21 Oct 2019, 17:34

Fun to see that in South Africa, the Il.62 is considered an "Illussion"... wait till they hear it!

witje · Post by **witje** » 21 Oct 2019, 17:44

Damn, I was there two weeks ago!

Wildpicture · Post by **Wildpicture** » 21 Oct 2019, 18:40

Great news for spotters maybe. Not so great with regards to international politics and strategy.

Post by **Gietje** » 21 Oct 2019, 20:39

Wildpicture wrote:Great news for spotters maybe. Not so great with regards to international politics and strategy.

Because?

Stratofreighter · Post by **Stratofreighter** » 21 Oct 2019, 21:11

Gietje wrote:
Wildpicture wrote:Great news for spotters maybe. Not so great with regards to international politics and strategy.
Because?

This may be why:
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... t-66415655
/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... -in-africa
/
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article ... with-love/
/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... ur-ruling/

michel N · Post by **michel N** » 21 Oct 2019, 21:16

If you worry about politics and military you can boycot or dislike most aircraft from African, Middle East countries (human rights/lack of democracy). So better not start about that...

Stratofreighter · Post by **Stratofreighter** » 22 Oct 2019, 10:02

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/ ... -24-hours/

A visit by two Russian Air Force Tu-160 bombers has been postponed by 24 hours due to technical problems,
with the aircraft now set to arrive in South Africa on 23 October.

The aircraft were due to arrive at 6:30 this morning,
accompanied by South African Air Force (SAAF) Gripen and Hawk combat aircraft,
which would have flown from Air Force Base Makhado to give them interception practice.

The Tu-160s were due to be preceded by an Antonov An-124 transport and an Ilyushin Il-62.
The An-124 arrived on Monday and is currently parked at Air Force Base Waterkloof.

Russia has been trying to gain influence in Africa,
with Putin saying on Monday that the West was intimidating African countries to exploit their resources.
He said Moscow’s ties to Africa are now on the up,
pointing to military technical cooperation accords that Russia has with more than 30 African states which it supplies arms to.

As part of cooperation with South Africa,
Russia will, in late November 2019,
take part in the naval Exercise Mosi with the Chinese and South African Navies.

A planning conference was recently held at SA Navy fleet headquarters in Simon’s Town.

...and https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/ ... y-24-hours
has more "background"...

Daniel Ravenswaay · Post by **Daniel Ravenswaay** » 22 Oct 2019, 15:19

michel N wrote:If you worry about politics and military you can boycot or dislike most aircraft from African, Middle East countries (human rights/lack of democracy). So better not start about that...

I think you're forgetting an important player my friend... The United States

GLF4 · Post by **GLF4** » 22 Oct 2019, 19:50

RA-86496 IL-62M landed WKF 21/10/2019, no photos as only saw it on Flightradar 24 on downwind, came in from KRT.
RF-82034 AN-124 landed WKF 21/10/2019, landed after sunset

. Came in from NBO.

Stratofreighter · Post by **Stratofreighter** » 23 Oct 2019, 06:51

https://twitter.com/Jonisayi/status/1186865782837387264

For the second day,
journalists in Pretoria waiting for the grand arrival of the two Russian Tupolev Tu-160 ‘Blackjack’ bomber aircraft.

But we've just been informed it's not happening again this morning.

https://twitter.com/Jonisayi/status/1186865782837387264

Alpha Kilo One · Post by **Alpha Kilo One** » 23 Oct 2019, 07:03

I am worried you all seem to forget the most important player in that region. Which is China!

Daniel Ravenswaay · Post by **Daniel Ravenswaay** » 23 Oct 2019, 09:22

Alpha Kilo One wrote:I am worried you all seem to forget the most important player in that region. Which is China!

Haha yes also very true!

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