3rd CAB helicopters outbound Europe

[Sjoerd]

I once again updated the 3 CAB overview on page2 in the new light that 14 Apaches changed units during this deployment.

[Key]

Waalhaven confirmed for the helos by a source of mine.

[Rabbit]

Already known when the great migration starts?

[Thomas266]

Hi @ all. I think it is time to post a Illesheim and Ansbach Log. Here is what we noted there last Saturday and today.
We all know the Units meanwhile, so i dont mention to cut the report a bit short.

Illesheim, Saturday 20.06.2020
CH-47F 13-08146
CH-47F 14-08455
CH-47F 14-08461
CH-47F 15-08173
UH-60L 92-26458
UH-60L 92-26482
UH-60L 94-26587
UH-60L 95-26596
UH-60L 98-26812
UH-60L 05-27055
HH-60M 08-20172
HH-60M 11-20353
HH-60M 11-20354
HH-60M 11-20355
HH-60M 11-20376
HH-60M 11-20411
UH-60M 11-20361
UH-60M 11-20362
UH-60M 11-20364
UH-60M 11-20370
UH-60M 11-20387
UH-60M 11-20392
UH-60M 11-20395
UH-60M 11-20397
UH-60M 11-20422
AH-64D 03-05403
AH-64D 04-05419
AH-64D 05-07003
AH-64D 05-07010
AH-64D 09-05602

Ansbach, 20.06.2020 (AH-64D only)
AH-64D 05-07002
AH-64D 07-07046
AH-64D 08-07049
AH-64D 08-05550
AH-64D 09-05581
AH-64D 09-05587

Illesheim, 28.06.2020
UH-60M 11-20356
UH-60M 11-20358
UH-60M 11-20360
UH-60M 11-20361
UH-60M 11-20362
UH-60M 11-20364
UH-60M 11-20370
UH-60M 11-20387
UH-60M 11-20389
UH-60M 11-20392
UH-60M 11-20395
UH-60M 11-20417
UH-60M 11-20422
UH-60M 12-20450
UH-60M 12-20455
UH-60M 12-20458
UH-60M 12-20460
UH-60M 12-20461
HH-60M 10-20310
HH-60M 11-20351
HH-60M 11-20354
HH-60M 11-20376
HH-60M 12-20506
HH-60M 13-20615
HH-60M 13-20616
HH-60M 14-20679
CH-47F 14-08455
CH-47F 14-08461
CH-47F 15-08173
AH-64D 02-05316
AH-64D 02-05321
AH-64D 03-05370
AH-64D 03-05395
AH-64D 04-05444
AH-64D 04-05453
AH-64D 05-07003
AH-64D 06-07014
AH-64D 07-07043
AH-64D 07-07045

Ansbach, 28.06.2020
CH-47F 13-08132
CH-47F 13-08133
CH-47F 13-08134
CH-47F 13-08432
CH-47F 13-08434
CH-47F 13-08437
AH-64D 07-07046
AH-64D 08-05550
AH-64D 09-05585
AH-64D 09-05591
AH-64D 10-05620

Today no sight of a UH-60L, as if they dissapeared. We noted another UH-60 at Illesheim today it was looking as 20174 what i think is not possible. last 3 in white appears as 174. Anybody an idea ?
Cheers
Thomas

[JPS]

Waalhaven confirmed for the helos by a source of mine.

A container 'wall' has been created on the site, 1 container high.

[pluggie]

UH-60 at Illesheim today it was looking as 20174 what i think is not possible. last 3 in white appears as 174. Anybody an idea ?

172

[Thomas266]

UH-60 at Illesheim today it was looking as 20174 what i think is not possible. last 3 in white appears as 174. Anybody an idea ?

172

Thank you. It was my thinking too.

[Frank]

Hi All

As not all helicopters will make a stop at Eindhoven (some will fly directly to Rotterdam), I am looking into possibilities to have a look at the Waalhaven. From what I gather, the helo's will land somewhere near the Uniport but it is unclear which place. So i marked the possibilties on this map. Possible lookout point is marked with the "little man".

Best scenario is of course the blue line. For the red or green option you need to move back more but the view is quite blocked there because of the containers.

Your views ?

[dinovandoorn]

My Guess is the blue line Frank as they want to avoid to fly over buildings.. but this is al guessing.
and how is the view on uniport ? i understood they placed some containers already.. but is that close to the point you are ? because then they will fly in pretty close i would say.

[JPS]

My Guess is the blue line Frank as they want to avoid to fly over buildings.. but this is al guessing.
and how is the view on uniport ? i understood they placed some containers already.. but is that close to the point you are ? because then they will fly in pretty close i would say.

I checked yesterday, the container wall is at the MRS location. This location was also used last year for the rolling equipment and containers.

[Sparkvark]

A more realistic route would be this:
Over the Oude Maas, passing in between Barendrecht and Rhoon and then straight in to Waalhaven, minimising noise over populated areas.

[Sparkvark]

R20361 just left Illesheim

[EvD]

Hey Frank,
The part where it says 'MRS' and presumably the south side of that quay is a likely mooring place.

My reasoning for positions is exactly the same.
The northwest corner has a huge parking lot and you can walk along the sidewalk visible on the left side of your screencap all the way from the beginning of the blue arrow to your 'little man'
.
Alternative spot could be to the left of where the green arrow point ends, that road leads to the far side of that pier too (despite streetview stopping halfway).

Last time, at the more westerly mooring, they followed the Nieuwe Maas and turned over open water (blue arrow-type approach).
Red and green arrow means crossing (active) cranes at harbour areas, they'd probably want to avoid those.

Erwin

[EvD]

R20361 just left Illesheim

Heading West, for Ramstein?

[JPS]

Hey Frank,
The part where it says 'MRS' and presumably the south side of that quay is a likely mooring place.

Erwin

If I'm not mistaken last time the Endurance was moored on the northern quay of MRS.