104's

[P.Terlouw]

One of the German Marineflieger F-104G "Vikings" at the Mildenhall Air Fete.

[dick loh vervallen]

I am looking for a long time already for the serial of this Canadian CF-104 taken in September 1979. So if there is anyone who can help it will be surely appreciated.



Dick Lohuis

[dick loh vervallen]

Anyone for the MM of this 23 Grupo, 2.000 hrs. June 1990, shot?



Dick Lohuis

[dinovandoorn]

any locations for these birds ??

[dick loh vervallen]

Dino, the CF-104 is made at Baden Söllingen. I do not have any further info for the AMI F-104S ASA.

Dick

[Matia348]

Anyone for the MM of this 23 Grupo, 2.000 hrs. June 1990, shot?



Dick Lohuis


From the very very good book Starfighter Colours (N. Malizia)
The 23o Gruppo CIO, under the command of Wing Commander Paolo Poggi, produced its first "Special Colour" using the example 5-42/MM6704 100th ASA, which had reached the unit from Caselle on 10 April 1990. On that occasion the first 2.000 flying hours of the "Greyhound" unit and the arrival of the aforementioned 100th ASA were celebrated. Anyway the initiative was not to the liking of the Wing Commander who ordered that the aeroplane be immediately stripped of its paint

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I LOVE

[dick loh vervallen]

Thanks a lot Matia348 for the info.

Dick

[The DJ]

I am looking for a long time already for the serial of this Canadian CF-104 taken in September 1979. So if there is anyone who can help it will be surely appreciated.



Dick Lohuis

Dick, I sended your photo to a Canadian Friend.

His reply:

It's 104785, but my info is it was painted that way in 1981. Although the CF-104s were all pooled in 1 CAG, they were allocated as needed each day to the squadrons, one of which was 441 Squadron. Their name is "Silver Fox", but they've worn a black and white checkerboard somewhere on their aircraft since their Sabre days and they painted this aircraft in recognition of their CO's 1000th CF-104 flying hour in 1981.

I spent a couple of weeks with 441 Squadron in Cold Lake in 1999 helping them sort through stacks of material they'd accumulated to see if they had enough to start work on a history book and the CO at the time (he's now a Typhoon test pilot with EADS) had a big SUV painted somewhat like '785. He told me he'd dropped hints for weeks before some of the pilots finally did it one weekend while he was away to "surprise" him. He'd been a CF-104 pilot in Europe and knew how things were done back then. They were able to get approval to paint a CF-188 in overall dark and light grey checkerboard, too, but it wasn't as dazzling as the CF-104. Aparently, the black paint they used was hard to remove and they eventually had to strip it to bare metal and repaint it in camouflage and some people up the food chain were Not Amused.

I've just checked some other sources and they agree on the 1981 date.
There was only one painted like that. 441 had another "Checkerbird", 104880 in 1983, but it was quite a different scheme.

Hope this helps,
DJ

[dick loh vervallen]

DJ,

Thank you very much for your kind help.
The stamp on the Kodachrome slide says that it was developed in September 1979.

Anyway, I know the serial and that is what counts.

Thanks again,
Dick

[SPERX]

A few of mine from the good old days

RAF Manston 1984-85





As he taxied past the WRAF tower controller asked him " How many POB ( Persons on Board ) - over the radio we heard " Huhhh?"



Mildenhall Air Fetes - Can't Say When





IAT Early 1990s I Guess



Castle AFB Museum



And Mojave Airport in, I think, 1989 or 90.

[F17_114PM]

Hi,

very nice pictures!

By the last picture, are this Greek roundels? Do you remember the serial?

[Jan Hendriksen]

Hello F17_114PM,

the last picture is a F-104 that belonged to the RJAF. The serial is in

[Stephan Lodewijks]

Hi,

very nice pictures!

By the last picture, are this Greek roundels? Do you remember the serial?

Tailnumber of this derelict Jordanian F-104A is 909A (ex 57-1296).

Regards,

Stephan

[F17_114PM]

Ok,
thank you both very much!

I believe I need glasses. I saw the color as blue ...

[dinovandoorn]

and from the other side... (1997 )



Dino