The Dutch airliner delivery thread
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2010 including winterlease 2010/2011:
TRANSAVIA:
PR-GGW (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 21-06-2010 G39296 17:06A REC LIS PR-GGW.
First commercial flight for HV: 02-07-2010 HV459/460 17:25A/02:09A (3th) HER vv PH-GGW.
Last commercial flight for HV: 19-09-2010 HV573/574 06:36A/00:56A (20th) RHO vv PH-GGW.
Departed: 22-09-2010 HV051 23:23A LPA CNF PH-GGW.
C-GOEJ (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 25-04-2010 as ENJ800 11:52A YYC C-GOEJ.
First commercial flight for HV: 29-04-2010 HV6873/6874 06:50A/10:18A TXL vv PH-OEJ.
Last commericial fight for HV: 26-09-2010 HV5585/5586 19:17A/22:43A NCE vv PH-OEJ.
Departed: 29-09-2010 ENJ950 16:30A KEF YYC PH-OEJ.
PH-BXU (summer lease 2010):
First commercial flight for HV: 30-06-2010 HV5135/5136 12:22A/17:42A BCN vv PH-BXU.
Last commercial flight for HV: 22-08-2010 HV6117/6118 19:37A/02:25A (23th) AGP vv PH-BXU.
PH-BXW (summer lease 2010):
First commercial flight for HV: 01-07-2010 HV5673/5674 18:21A/00:04A IBZ vv PH-BXW.
Last commercial flight for HV: 04-09-2010 HV291/292 16:03A/00:42A (5th) AYT vv PH-BXW.
PH-BGK (summer lease 2010):
First commercial flight for HV: 08-07-2010 HV5581/5582 06:40A/11:11A NCE vv PH-BGK.
Last commercial flight for HV: 15-08-2010 HV5133/5134 18:34A/23:44A BCN vv PH-BGK.
PH-HSB (new):
Arrived: 22-04-2010 HV8678 12:33A BFI KEF PH-HSB.
First commercial flight: 23-04-2010 HV563/564 05:40A/13:17A SMI PH-HSB.
PH-HSC (new):
Arrived: 05-05-2010 HV052 12:24A CPH PH-HSC.
First commercial flight: 06-05-2010 HV5465/5466 15:46A/19:56A VRN PH-HSC.
PH-HZB (to Comair/Kulula):
Last commercial flight: 31-10-2010 HV6583/6584 16:08A/23:23A SAW PH-HZB.
Finally left for Libreville: 26-11-2010 ZSZWQ 09:11A LBV PH-HZB.
PH-HZC (to Jet2):
Last commercial flight: 14-11-2010 HV6331/6332 17:36A/23:06A VLC PH-HZC.
Finally left Leeds Bradford: 08-01-2011 GGDFC 10:25A LBA PH-HZC.
PH-HSW/9Y-TJR (winterlease Caribbean Airways):
Left: 27-10-2010 BW7901 16:58A SMA-POS PH-HSW.
Returned: 09-04-2011 HV054 01:34A POS-OPO PH-HSW.
PH-HSA/9Y-TJS (winterlease Caribbean Aireays):
Left: 09-11-2010 BW7901 08:00 SMA-POS PH-HSA.
Returned: 13-04-2011 HV052 06:21A POS PH-HSA.
PH-HZF (winterlease Aeromexico):
Left: 06-11-2010 AMX890 17:00A KEF-MEX PH-HZF.
Returned: 20-04-2011 HV052 06:15A MEX-YYR PH-HZF.
PH-HZE (winterlease Aeromexico):
Left: 11-11-2010 AMX891 16:44A KEF-MEX PH-HZE.
Returned: 13-04-2011 HV054 05:46A MEX-YYR PH-HZE.
PH-HZD (winterlease Aeromexico):
Left: 12-11-2010 AM893 16:26A KEF-MEX PH-HZD.
Returned: 06-04-2011 HV052 04:42A MEX-YYR PH-HZD.
PH-HZI (winterlease Sun Country):
Left: 18-11-2010 HV051 23:28A KEF-MSP PH-HZI.
Returned:
PH-HZJ (winterlease Sun Country):
Left: 03-12-2010 HV051 13:10A KEF-MSP PH-HZJ.
Returned: 21-04-2011 HV052 05:20A MSP PH-HZJ.
PH-HZG (winterlease Sun Country):
Left: 16-12-2010 HV051 08:49A KEF-MSP PH-HZG.
Returned: 14-04-2011 HV054 05:08A MSP PH-HZG.
PH-HZX (winterlease Enerjet):
Left: 12-01-2011 EG950 11:16A KEF-YYC PH-HZX.
Returned: 02-04-2011 HV052 07:11A YYC-KEF PH-HZX.
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KLM:
PH-BDN (scrapped):
Last commercial flight for KL: 04-07-2010 KL1429/14:30 15:10A/18:49A BHX vv PH-BDN.
Finally left for Norwich: 20-07-2010 KL7451 08:05A NWI PH-BDN.
PH-BTI (to KQ):
Last commercial flight for KL: 15-08-2010 KL1245/1246 18:00A/2:31A CDG vv PH-BTI.
Finally left for Kenya: 25-09-2010 KQ1111 11:07A CAI NBO PH-BTI.
PH-BTH (to KQ):
Last commercial flight for KL: 29-06-2010 KL1631/1632 16:42A/21:18A MXP vv PH-BTH.
Finally left for Kenya: 04-07-2010 KL7451 08:02A CAI NBO PH-BTH.
PH-BDP (scrapped):
Last commercial flight for KL: 24-10-2010 KL1289/1290 17:20A/21:05A EDI vv PH-BDP.
Finally left for Norwich: 02-11-2010 KL7451 08:43A NWI PH-BDP.
PH-BDZ (to Nokair):
Last commercial flight for KL: 26-09-2010 KL1705/1706 16:44A/22:42A MAD vv PH-BDZ.
Finally left for Nokair: 01-12-2010 HSDDP 10:00A SAW PH-BDZ.
PH-EZL (new):
Arrived: 23-01-2010 KL7882 21:50A SJL REC TFS PH-EZL.
First commercial flight: 25-01-2010 KL1783/1784 17:03A/19:54A HAM vv PH-EZL.
PH-EZM (new):
Arrived: 13-02-2010 KL7882 18:28A SJK REC TFS PH-EZM.
First commercial flight: 15-02-2010 KL1791/1792 07:38A/11:58A MUC vv PH-EZM.
PH-EZN (new):
Arrived: 13-03-2010 KL7882 18:43A SJK REC TFS PH-EZN.
First commercial flight: 15-03-2010 KL1165/1166 07:01A/12:14A HEL vv PH-EZN.
PH-EZO (new):
Arrived: 02-04-2010 KL7882 22:01A SJK REC TFS PH-EZO.
First commercial flight: 06-04-2010 KL1445/1446 13:50A/19:02A ABZ vv PH-EZO.
PH-EZP (new):
Arrived: 02-04-2010 KL7874 22:01A SJK REC TFS PH-EZP.
First commercial flight: 04-04-2010 KL1315/1316 09:55A/15:35A BOD vv PH-EZP.
PH-EZR (new):
Arrived: 21-08-2010 KL7882 18:57A SJK REC TFS PH-EZR.
First commercial flight: 23-08-2010 KL1165/1166 07:18A/12:40A HEL vv PH-EZR.
PH-EZS (new):
Arrived: 18-09-2010 KL7882 22:27A SJK REC TFS PH-EZS.
First commercial flight: 20-09-2010 KL1197/1198 07:38A/12:10A SVG vv PH-EZS.
PH-BGI (new):
Arrived: 17-02-2010 KL7453 09:41A BFI PH-BGI.
First commercial flight: 22-02-2010 KL1141/1142 07:28A/12:28A OSL vv PH-BGI.
PH-BGK (new):
Arrived: 13-06-2010 KL7453 06:41A BFI PH-BGK.
First commercial flight: 15-06-2010 KL1285/1286 15:10A/18:54A EDI vv PH-BGK.
PH-BGL (new):
Arrived: 24-09-2010 KL7453 09:39A BFI PH-BGL.
First commercial flight: 27-09-2010 KL1411/1142 07:11A/12:06A OSL vv PH-BGL.
PH-AOM (new):
Arrived: 22-10-2010 KL7471 00:12A TLS PH-AOM 332.
First commercial flight: 24/25-10-2010 KL0427/0428 14:55A/05:55A DXB vv PH-AOM.
PH-BCA (new):
Arrived: 21-12-2010 KL7454 09:37A YYR PH-BCA.
First commercial flight: 23-12-2010 KL1223/1224 07:47A/11:27A CDG vv PH-BCA.
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ARKEFLY:
PH-OYI (new):
Arrived: 06-10-2010 OR096 18:01A LTN PH-OYI 763.
First commercial flight for OR: 09-10-2010 OR839/840 05:25A/14:06A AYT vv PH-OYI 763.
N738MA (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 29-06-2010 LL571P 09:21A PSM N738MA.
First commercial flight for OR: 30-06-2010 OR725/726 05:19A/14:18A AYT vv N738MA.
Last commercial flight for OR: 04-09-2010 OR409/410 05:37A/12:38A MIR vv N738MA.
Departed: 04-09-2010 OR995 15:07A KEF YYZ MIA N738MA.
N739MA (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 30-06-2010 LL572P 08:37A PSM N739MA.
First commercial flight: 30-06-2010 OR807/808 12:26A/20:42A DLM vv N739MA.
Last commercial flight: 15-09-2010 OR807/808 05:57A/14:22A DLM vv N739MA.
Departed: 15-09-2010 LL501 18:53A YQX PSM MIA N739MA.
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I think this is the (almost) complete list for 2010. Some things maybe allready mentioned, some things maybe forgotten. Feel free to add/comment etc.
Groeten Martijn
TRANSAVIA:
PR-GGW (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 21-06-2010 G39296 17:06A REC LIS PR-GGW.
First commercial flight for HV: 02-07-2010 HV459/460 17:25A/02:09A (3th) HER vv PH-GGW.
Last commercial flight for HV: 19-09-2010 HV573/574 06:36A/00:56A (20th) RHO vv PH-GGW.
Departed: 22-09-2010 HV051 23:23A LPA CNF PH-GGW.
C-GOEJ (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 25-04-2010 as ENJ800 11:52A YYC C-GOEJ.
First commercial flight for HV: 29-04-2010 HV6873/6874 06:50A/10:18A TXL vv PH-OEJ.
Last commericial fight for HV: 26-09-2010 HV5585/5586 19:17A/22:43A NCE vv PH-OEJ.
Departed: 29-09-2010 ENJ950 16:30A KEF YYC PH-OEJ.
PH-BXU (summer lease 2010):
First commercial flight for HV: 30-06-2010 HV5135/5136 12:22A/17:42A BCN vv PH-BXU.
Last commercial flight for HV: 22-08-2010 HV6117/6118 19:37A/02:25A (23th) AGP vv PH-BXU.
PH-BXW (summer lease 2010):
First commercial flight for HV: 01-07-2010 HV5673/5674 18:21A/00:04A IBZ vv PH-BXW.
Last commercial flight for HV: 04-09-2010 HV291/292 16:03A/00:42A (5th) AYT vv PH-BXW.
PH-BGK (summer lease 2010):
First commercial flight for HV: 08-07-2010 HV5581/5582 06:40A/11:11A NCE vv PH-BGK.
Last commercial flight for HV: 15-08-2010 HV5133/5134 18:34A/23:44A BCN vv PH-BGK.
PH-HSB (new):
Arrived: 22-04-2010 HV8678 12:33A BFI KEF PH-HSB.
First commercial flight: 23-04-2010 HV563/564 05:40A/13:17A SMI PH-HSB.
PH-HSC (new):
Arrived: 05-05-2010 HV052 12:24A CPH PH-HSC.
First commercial flight: 06-05-2010 HV5465/5466 15:46A/19:56A VRN PH-HSC.
PH-HZB (to Comair/Kulula):
Last commercial flight: 31-10-2010 HV6583/6584 16:08A/23:23A SAW PH-HZB.
Finally left for Libreville: 26-11-2010 ZSZWQ 09:11A LBV PH-HZB.
PH-HZC (to Jet2):
Last commercial flight: 14-11-2010 HV6331/6332 17:36A/23:06A VLC PH-HZC.
Finally left Leeds Bradford: 08-01-2011 GGDFC 10:25A LBA PH-HZC.
PH-HSW/9Y-TJR (winterlease Caribbean Airways):
Left: 27-10-2010 BW7901 16:58A SMA-POS PH-HSW.
Returned: 09-04-2011 HV054 01:34A POS-OPO PH-HSW.
PH-HSA/9Y-TJS (winterlease Caribbean Aireays):
Left: 09-11-2010 BW7901 08:00 SMA-POS PH-HSA.
Returned: 13-04-2011 HV052 06:21A POS PH-HSA.
PH-HZF (winterlease Aeromexico):
Left: 06-11-2010 AMX890 17:00A KEF-MEX PH-HZF.
Returned: 20-04-2011 HV052 06:15A MEX-YYR PH-HZF.
PH-HZE (winterlease Aeromexico):
Left: 11-11-2010 AMX891 16:44A KEF-MEX PH-HZE.
Returned: 13-04-2011 HV054 05:46A MEX-YYR PH-HZE.
PH-HZD (winterlease Aeromexico):
Left: 12-11-2010 AM893 16:26A KEF-MEX PH-HZD.
Returned: 06-04-2011 HV052 04:42A MEX-YYR PH-HZD.
PH-HZI (winterlease Sun Country):
Left: 18-11-2010 HV051 23:28A KEF-MSP PH-HZI.
Returned:
PH-HZJ (winterlease Sun Country):
Left: 03-12-2010 HV051 13:10A KEF-MSP PH-HZJ.
Returned: 21-04-2011 HV052 05:20A MSP PH-HZJ.
PH-HZG (winterlease Sun Country):
Left: 16-12-2010 HV051 08:49A KEF-MSP PH-HZG.
Returned: 14-04-2011 HV054 05:08A MSP PH-HZG.
PH-HZX (winterlease Enerjet):
Left: 12-01-2011 EG950 11:16A KEF-YYC PH-HZX.
Returned: 02-04-2011 HV052 07:11A YYC-KEF PH-HZX.
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KLM:
PH-BDN (scrapped):
Last commercial flight for KL: 04-07-2010 KL1429/14:30 15:10A/18:49A BHX vv PH-BDN.
Finally left for Norwich: 20-07-2010 KL7451 08:05A NWI PH-BDN.
PH-BTI (to KQ):
Last commercial flight for KL: 15-08-2010 KL1245/1246 18:00A/2:31A CDG vv PH-BTI.
Finally left for Kenya: 25-09-2010 KQ1111 11:07A CAI NBO PH-BTI.
PH-BTH (to KQ):
Last commercial flight for KL: 29-06-2010 KL1631/1632 16:42A/21:18A MXP vv PH-BTH.
Finally left for Kenya: 04-07-2010 KL7451 08:02A CAI NBO PH-BTH.
PH-BDP (scrapped):
Last commercial flight for KL: 24-10-2010 KL1289/1290 17:20A/21:05A EDI vv PH-BDP.
Finally left for Norwich: 02-11-2010 KL7451 08:43A NWI PH-BDP.
PH-BDZ (to Nokair):
Last commercial flight for KL: 26-09-2010 KL1705/1706 16:44A/22:42A MAD vv PH-BDZ.
Finally left for Nokair: 01-12-2010 HSDDP 10:00A SAW PH-BDZ.
PH-EZL (new):
Arrived: 23-01-2010 KL7882 21:50A SJL REC TFS PH-EZL.
First commercial flight: 25-01-2010 KL1783/1784 17:03A/19:54A HAM vv PH-EZL.
PH-EZM (new):
Arrived: 13-02-2010 KL7882 18:28A SJK REC TFS PH-EZM.
First commercial flight: 15-02-2010 KL1791/1792 07:38A/11:58A MUC vv PH-EZM.
PH-EZN (new):
Arrived: 13-03-2010 KL7882 18:43A SJK REC TFS PH-EZN.
First commercial flight: 15-03-2010 KL1165/1166 07:01A/12:14A HEL vv PH-EZN.
PH-EZO (new):
Arrived: 02-04-2010 KL7882 22:01A SJK REC TFS PH-EZO.
First commercial flight: 06-04-2010 KL1445/1446 13:50A/19:02A ABZ vv PH-EZO.
PH-EZP (new):
Arrived: 02-04-2010 KL7874 22:01A SJK REC TFS PH-EZP.
First commercial flight: 04-04-2010 KL1315/1316 09:55A/15:35A BOD vv PH-EZP.
PH-EZR (new):
Arrived: 21-08-2010 KL7882 18:57A SJK REC TFS PH-EZR.
First commercial flight: 23-08-2010 KL1165/1166 07:18A/12:40A HEL vv PH-EZR.
PH-EZS (new):
Arrived: 18-09-2010 KL7882 22:27A SJK REC TFS PH-EZS.
First commercial flight: 20-09-2010 KL1197/1198 07:38A/12:10A SVG vv PH-EZS.
PH-BGI (new):
Arrived: 17-02-2010 KL7453 09:41A BFI PH-BGI.
First commercial flight: 22-02-2010 KL1141/1142 07:28A/12:28A OSL vv PH-BGI.
PH-BGK (new):
Arrived: 13-06-2010 KL7453 06:41A BFI PH-BGK.
First commercial flight: 15-06-2010 KL1285/1286 15:10A/18:54A EDI vv PH-BGK.
PH-BGL (new):
Arrived: 24-09-2010 KL7453 09:39A BFI PH-BGL.
First commercial flight: 27-09-2010 KL1411/1142 07:11A/12:06A OSL vv PH-BGL.
PH-AOM (new):
Arrived: 22-10-2010 KL7471 00:12A TLS PH-AOM 332.
First commercial flight: 24/25-10-2010 KL0427/0428 14:55A/05:55A DXB vv PH-AOM.
PH-BCA (new):
Arrived: 21-12-2010 KL7454 09:37A YYR PH-BCA.
First commercial flight: 23-12-2010 KL1223/1224 07:47A/11:27A CDG vv PH-BCA.
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ARKEFLY:
PH-OYI (new):
Arrived: 06-10-2010 OR096 18:01A LTN PH-OYI 763.
First commercial flight for OR: 09-10-2010 OR839/840 05:25A/14:06A AYT vv PH-OYI 763.
N738MA (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 29-06-2010 LL571P 09:21A PSM N738MA.
First commercial flight for OR: 30-06-2010 OR725/726 05:19A/14:18A AYT vv N738MA.
Last commercial flight for OR: 04-09-2010 OR409/410 05:37A/12:38A MIR vv N738MA.
Departed: 04-09-2010 OR995 15:07A KEF YYZ MIA N738MA.
N739MA (summer lease 2010):
Arrived: 30-06-2010 LL572P 08:37A PSM N739MA.
First commercial flight: 30-06-2010 OR807/808 12:26A/20:42A DLM vv N739MA.
Last commercial flight: 15-09-2010 OR807/808 05:57A/14:22A DLM vv N739MA.
Departed: 15-09-2010 LL501 18:53A YQX PSM MIA N739MA.
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I think this is the (almost) complete list for 2010. Some things maybe allready mentioned, some things maybe forgotten. Feel free to add/comment etc.
Groeten Martijn
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Nice list Martijn.
Some suggestions from my side:
ArkeFly in ORange titles
And split 2010 and 2011, because the list will be much longer this year with all the withdrawn from use of KLM's 733/734, MP 767's and TFL 767 en delivery's of summer leases 2011, KLM 737's and TFL 767's/737's.....
Some suggestions from my side:
ArkeFly in ORange titles
And split 2010 and 2011, because the list will be much longer this year with all the withdrawn from use of KLM's 733/734, MP 767's and TFL 767 en delivery's of summer leases 2011, KLM 737's and TFL 767's/737's.....
All times are local times!
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Very nice list Martijn!
Only the delivery of PH-OYJ needs to be adapted
Only the delivery of PH-OYJ needs to be adapted
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
He had already een PM for that by me!
All times are local times!
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
I guess it will be solved thenB767-300ER wrote:He had already een PM for that by me!
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Thanks for pointing out. There are more details to be corrected or filled in. Will be adjusted every ones and a while.Gietje wrote:I guess it will be solved thenB767-300ER wrote:He had already een PM for that by me!
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
EDIT: Removed and updated on page 82.
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Does anyone know what the registration of the Dutch Corendon Airlines aircraft will be?
The first 737-800 will land at Schiphol on april the 26th around noon. The aircraft was previously operated by FlyDubai. Another aircraft will also be taken from FlyDubai but is intended for the Turkish Corendon operation.
The first 737-800 will land at Schiphol on april the 26th around noon. The aircraft was previously operated by FlyDubai. Another aircraft will also be taken from FlyDubai but is intended for the Turkish Corendon operation.
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Seems quite fast as these aircraft are only 2 years old.phkza wrote:Weet iemand welke regi's de toestellen van Corendon Dutch Airlines gaan krijgen?
Eerste 737-800 landt als alles goed gaat op 26 april op Schiphol en is afkomstig van FlyDubai. Corendon neemt nog een andere 737 van ze af, maar die gaat naar de Turkse operatie.
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
PH-CDE is the first onephkza wrote:Weet iemand welke regi's de toestellen van Corendon Dutch Airlines gaan krijgen?
Eerste 737-800 landt als alles goed gaat op 26 april op Schiphol en is afkomstig van FlyDubai. Corendon neemt nog een andere 737 van ze af, maar die gaat naar de Turkse operatie.
PH-CDF and PH-CDG are also registered for CDA.
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All times are local times!
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
PH-CDE, F, G en H gereserveerd door Corendon op 8.3.2011phkza wrote:Weet iemand welke regi's de toestellen van Corendon Dutch Airlines gaan krijgen?
Zie: http://www.hdekker.info/registermap/MC.htm#PH-CDE
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Heel leuk dat je even reclame maakt voor jouw eigen website, maar kijk eens naar het bericht boven je. Daar is het antwoord al gegevenHerman Dekker wrote:PH-CDE, F, G en H gereserveerd door Corendon op 8.3.2011phkza wrote:Weet iemand welke regi's de toestellen van Corendon Dutch Airlines gaan krijgen?
Zie: http://www.hdekker.info/registermap/MC.htm#PH-CDE
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread
Als dat zo was had ik waarschijnlijk niet gereageerd.nuckleuz wrote:Heel leuk dat je even reclame maakt voor jouw eigen website, maar kijk eens naar het bericht boven je. Daar is het antwoord al gegevenHerman Dekker wrote:PH-CDE, F, G en H gereserveerd door Corendon op 8.3.2011phkza wrote:Weet iemand welke regi's de toestellen van Corendon Dutch Airlines gaan krijgen?
Zie: http://www.hdekker.info/registermap/MC.htm#PH-CDE
Grt, Erik
Maar PH-CDH en de reserveringsdatum werden niet vermeld.
Vandaar.
Herman.