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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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Planned first commercial flight of the PH-BGR on 30-08:

KL1107 AMS-ARN STD 06:50 lt.

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air-bus wrote:Planned first commercial flight of the PH-BGR on 30-08: KL1107 AMS-ARN STD 06:50 lt. Regards, Arno
Eerste vlucht vandaag, alleen andere bestemming:

KL1821/1822 08:20/11:35 TXL vv PH-BGR 73W.


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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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What are the official names of 737-700's PH-BGR and PH-BGT?
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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T7 wrote:What are the official names of 737-700's PH-BGR and PH-BGT?
The BGR has the name "Zwarte wouw" as far i know.
BGT i haven't seen it yet.

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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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The BGT is named Blauwe Kiekendief/Hen Harrier.

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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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Now delivery flight of PH-BGT, will arrive at SPL tomorrow at 6:50 z

L/N 3762 C/N 38634 B737-7K2 PH-BGT KLM
Dep BFI 13:51 PDT ETA AMS 06:50z
Call Sign KLM7453 Hex Code 484CB9
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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Hmmm, this is from the EHAM 07-09-2011 topic in the AMS forum:
En de PH-BGT staat bij HG10..
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dag vergist, excuus!
Starbucks wrote:Hmmm, this is from the EHAM 07-09-2011 topic in the AMS forum:
En de PH-BGT staat bij HG10..
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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Planned first commercial flight of the PH-BGT is on 10-09:

KL1665 AMS-BCN STD 07:55

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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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And another KLM 737PG will leave commercial service. PH-BDW (737-400) will fly it's last commercial services on Sunday 18 September. Aircraft will be returned to lessor early November.

On the 19th of September the KLM fleet has left 5 active 737PG's:
733: BDO, BTD
734: BTA, BTB, BTG

Notes:
1) PH-BTF will fly AMS-NWI on 13 September. Will be stored in NWI. Aircraft is for sale.
2) PH-BDT is presently near Hg10 for lessor return activities. Redelivery before end of Sep11.
3) PH-BPB and PH-BPC are stored in NWI and will be scrapped during the next few months.

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PH-BGU will be delivered at the end of September and PH-BGW and PH-BGX will be delivered in October, so that will be 3 aircraft. Does that mean a decrease of capicity, from 5 to 3 aircraft?

Besides the above written, the 737-700 has less seats than the 737-400, so that is also a decrease.
poereng wrote:And another KLM 737PG will leave commercial service. PH-BDW (737-400) will fly it's last commercial services on Sunday 18 September. Aircraft will be returned to lessor early November.

On the 19th of September the KLM fleet has left 5 active 737PG's:
733: BDO, BTD
734: BTA, BTB, BTG

Notes:
1) PH-BTF will fly AMS-NWI on 13 September. Will be stored in NWI. Aircraft is for sale.
2) PH-BDT is presently near Hg10 for lessor return activities. Redelivery before end of Sep11.
3) PH-BPB and PH-BPC are stored in NWI and will be scrapped during the next few months.

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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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I think you have an error in your math. KLM also has some B737-800 still on order, so the idea they go from 5 to 3 doesn't exactly hold.

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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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But the 5 PG 737's will leave the fleet at the end of October en the first 737-800 will come in April 2013 (see below standing just updated KLM itranet overview August 2011) so I still miss two 737's from October 2011 till april 2013.

737-800
On order 24 PH-tbd1 42148 Apr 2013 CFM56-7B24 57C 114M
On order 25 PH-tbd2 42149 May 2013 CFM56-7B24 57C 114M
On order 26 PH-tbd3 42150 Aug 2013 CFM56-7B24 57C 114M
On order 27 PH-tbd4 42151 Oct 2013 CFM56-7B24 57C 114M
ehusmann wrote:I think you have an error in your math. KLM also has some B737-800 still on order, so the idea they go from 5 to 3 doesn't exactly hold.

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Well, in October the winter season starts again, which is usually a slower period in which less capacity is needed. Then you have Summer 2012 which compared to 2011 might have more or less the same capacity due to the fact some KLM planes were used for Transavia this summer. If they don't use them in 2012 capacity remains the same. Then you have winter season again and before summer 2013 the rest of the -800s will be delivered.
Smart fleet planning me thinks...

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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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Clear! Hoping that Transavia will lease the aircraft from another company during summer 2012!
ehusmann wrote:Well, in October the winter season starts again, which is usually a slower period in which less capacity is needed. Then you have Summer 2012 which compared to 2011 might have more or less the same capacity due to the fact some KLM planes were used for Transavia this summer. If they don't use them in 2012 capacity remains the same. Then you have winter season again and before summer 2013 the rest of the -800s will be delivered.
Smart fleet planning me thinks...

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