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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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dennisblade1979 wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 09:52
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bo-105 87+15 ausbildungswerkstat Fassberg markings

(87+15) Bo.105P 6115 German Army i/a white c//s, Ausbildungswerkstat Fassberg markings, no c/n plate, c/n read on paperwork and bulkhead
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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Phantom was 37+10 as per nose gear door
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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GIPS wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 11:17 some more additions:

Halle 9:

at least 2 x NH-90 TTH inside, but not noted by us

Halle 9a:

at least 2 x NH-90 TTH inside, but not noted by us

Halle 8:

a CH-53G fuselage was on the back of the right side, which could be (84+41), others say is was a Sea King fuselage?

78+05 was WFU according personal

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Halle 9a contained 78+19 and 78+34. The reason the windows were covered was because the aircraft were taken apart and especially the sensitive parts were not to be photographed. Hence the paper in front of the windows.

In halle 9 we also noted 2 NH-90's in the outer corners. Maybe more in the middle, but no way to see through the paper/cracks in the doors. Any one for these 2??

Halle 8 righthandside was NH90 MTR+02 (no CH-53). Which is a training rig. Furthermore halle 10 contained 4 operational NH-90's (as per earlier log and serials on paper provided by the bothered, but helpfull mechanics :wink:), excluding wfu 78+05 (which is a training rig now) as well as training rig MTR+1B, in bare metal c/s under the net). So a total of 7 NH-90's in halle 8.
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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FWIW, the 7 NH90s were actually in Halle 8, and 78+23/78+33 were in Halle 10.

Bo105 werknummer 6181 had Bo105P1M on the ID plate.

Also seen near the gate but not read were preserved UH-1D (72+85) and C-47A (‘315208’).
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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patrick dirksen wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 12:38
Tiger UHT 74+15 ihaz

=> this had SAG behind the serial, indicating it is an instructional aircraft
SAG stands for Spezielles Ausbilungs Gerät, as advised by the mechanics standing next to it. So basically Special Training Device. By adding this, the number is not counted in the order of battle anymore (and doesn't officialy count in any arms reductions agreement).
Tiger HAP 2032 instr. Airframe tail is from a other aircraft not known

=> how was this identified? I presume it is correct, based on some sources, but I couldn't find any confirmation.
Also provided by the French and German chief mechanics around it (seperately). 2032 was crashed in Afghanistan. It contains the tail of an unknown French Tigre prototype. Possibly F-ZWWY (which is also here minus tail), but they could not confirm.
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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Also noted:

7602 Al2 preserved
7285 UH-1D preserved near main gate
JA-224 Sabre Mk.5 preserved

Hangar 5
Bo-105 with German Flag on tail
Do27 dismantled

Hangar 6?
8468. CH-53G
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Both read on nowewheel door

Hangar 7 (5x Tiger)
7407 SAG Tiger
7414 SAG Tiger
7444 Tiger
+1
+1 without tail section
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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Halle 10 righthandside was NH90 MTR+02 (no CH-53). Which is a training rig. Furthermore halle 10 contained 4 operational NH-90's (as per earlier log and serials on paper provided by the bothered, but helpfull mechanics :wink:), excluding wfu 78+05 (which is a training rig now) as well as training rig MTR+1B, in bare metal c/s under the net). So a total of 7 NH-90's in halle 10.
In the early morning when I visit this place, only the lefthand side of hangar was open .
We read 7917 and 7804. Another camp NH90 with NO serial on the boom was parked behind them , with the nose in 90• direction. Is this 7805 or a training rig ?
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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K2G wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 21:54

Halle 10 righthandside was NH90 MTR+02 (no CH-53). Which is a training rig. Furthermore halle 10 contained 4 operational NH-90's (as per earlier log and serials on paper provided by the bothered, but helpfull mechanics :wink:), excluding wfu 78+05 (which is a training rig now) as well as training rig MTR+1B, in bare metal c/s under the net). So a total of 7 NH-90's in halle 10.
In the early morning when I visit this place, only the lefthand side of hangar was open .
We read 7917 and 7804. Another camo NH90 with NO serial on the boom was parked behind them , with the nose in 90• direction. Is this 7805 or a training rig ?
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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patrick dirksen wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 12:43
Canberra TT.18 wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 11:04
DennisS wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 11:01 An additional question to this log, about the instructional Tornado in the large hangar (H12); a mechanic told me it should be the 43+41, according to the logbook inside the aircraft. So anyone who has the answer for us? Thanks in advance!
Aircraft had werknummer 4041 on the tail, so that fits.
The seeial could also be read under the paint with some difficulty. 43+41 confirmed.

And on the cn plate as GS019
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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K2G wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 21:47 Also noted:
Hangar 7 (5x Tiger)
7407 SAG Tiger
7414 SAG Tiger
7444 Tiger
+1
+1 without tail section
When we left the base the door on the left of the hangar was open briefly and we saw the left most Tiger. Do you know which one we saw?
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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Lex wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 22:00
K2G wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 21:47 Also noted:
Hangar 7 (5x Tiger)
7407 SAG Tiger
7414 SAG Tiger
7444 Tiger
+1
+1 without tail section
When we left the base the door on the left of the hangar was open briefly and we saw the left most Tiger. Do you know which one we saw?
The one on the left we did not read, because it was to dark inside.
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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K2G wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 21:54

Halle 10 righthandside was NH90 MTR+02 (no CH-53). Which is a training rig. Furthermore halle 10 contained 4 operational NH-90's (as per earlier log and serials on paper provided by the bothered, but helpfull mechanics :wink:), excluding wfu 78+05 (which is a training rig now) as well as training rig MTR+1B, in bare metal c/s under the net). So a total of 7 NH-90's in halle 10.
In the early morning when I visit this place, only the lefthand side of hangar was open .
We read 7917 and 7804. Another camp NH90 with NO serial on the boom was parked behind them , with the nose in 90• direction. Is this 7805 or a training rig ?
7805 was left and the training rig on the right. 7917 and 7804 were in front of 7805
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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GIPS wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 23:22
K2G wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 21:54

Halle 10 righthandside was NH90 MTR+02 (no CH-53). Which is a training rig. Furthermore halle 10 contained 4 operational NH-90's (as per earlier log and serials on paper provided by the bothered, but helpfull mechanics :wink:), excluding wfu 78+05 (which is a training rig now) as well as training rig MTR+1B, in bare metal c/s under the net). So a total of 7 NH-90's in halle 10.
In the early morning when I visit this place, only the lefthand side of hangar was open .
We read 7917 and 7804. Another camp NH90 with NO serial on the boom was parked behind them , with the nose in 90• direction. Is this 7805 or a training rig ?
7805 was left and the training rig on the right. 7917 and 7804 were in front of 7805
Thank you GIPS. Can you confirm the 7805 had a tailboom without a visual serial number applied?
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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7805 had no visual serial, it was given by the crew inside and told it was wfu.
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Re: Log Tag der Bundeswehr Fassberg 8-6-2024

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One of the maintenance guys said the 78+05 was taken apart so many times for training of maintenance crew, it was not economically viable to make it airworthy again. Therefor it remains a maintenance training rig.
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