Leeuwarden 2011 16 & 17 september Opinions and chit chat

[aviodromefriend]

Shorty summary: The 'Church and Peace Foundation' is mad at minister van Middelkoop for organizing the Open Days during the 'Peace Week'.

Guess they never realised that Dutch defense has been involved in a lot of PEACE keeping and PEACE enforcing missions in the last more than 30 years.

BTW as every month, day, week or whatever period is hijacked to be a something period, mostly the same period being more than one whatever what, I suggest we call this week Airforce days week, making it not just a piesweek.

[mirage 69]

The 'Church and Peace Foundation' is mad at minister van Middelkoop for organizing the Open Days during the 'Peace Week'. The foundation hopes he will find another date for the event.

The church......pfff they forget that most of the wars (in the past) are because of this churchs.......

Grtz Rene

[topgun1984]

Lets hope it will rain all days. Because of all complaining photographers.

Good thing you use an aka as your name as this won't exactly make you a popular guy !

Dear Ruud.

That doesnt bother me at all. The most important thing for those days is that the beer is cold and the party in the evening.

Well you should bother actually... With out the planes you wouldn't have a job... and no flying means no party

[Lex]

The peace week is from 18 till 24th of september and the open days are 16 and 17th of september!!!
What's the problem then?????

[Spacedust]

The problem is that there must be a problem to make it a problem.

[GoldenEagle]

That doesnt bother me at all. The most important thing for those days is that the beer is cold and the party in the evening.

What do you want?

An Airshow or the cafe?

[wamovements]

Rumours indicate that the Sanicole Airshwo and the RNLAF Open Dagen team are working on getting a very special team to the Netherlands: The Thunderbirds. As this was mentioned on other forums, I am not resonsible for this rumour, just want to shre this rumour with you. Schedule of the TB 2011 will be released in December.

[Eric Coeckelberghs]

Rumours indicate that the Sanicole Airshwo and the RNLAF Open Dagen team are working on getting a very special team to the Netherlands: The Thunderbirds. As this was mentioned on other forums, I am not resonsible for this rumour, just want to shre this rumour with you. Schedule of the TB 2011 will be released in December.

absolutely not true. The Thunderbirds will visit Europe from mid june till mid july and end their tour at riat.

greetz, Eric

[jerre]

absolutely not true. The Thunderbirds will visit Europe from mid june till mid july and end their tour at riat.

greetz, Eric

So there is still hope for Koksijde airshow (6/July)

[Eric Coeckelberghs]

absolutely not true. The Thunderbirds will visit Europe from mid june till mid july and end their tour at riat.

greetz, Eric

So there is still hope for Koksijde airshow (6/July)

There is absolutely hope for Koksijde, yes

greetz, Eric

[Gietje]

Strange reason to move the Open Days IMO.
Move an event with 250.000 attendants for some village events with only about a 1000 people or so.
It's all about priorities isn't it

[aviodromefriend]

Strange reason to move the Open Days IMO.
Move an event with 250.000 attendants for some village events with only about a 1000 people or so.
It's all about priorities isn't it

As BAD told us last time the show was at EHLW, taking in account the local events is not about priorities, it is about good neighbourship and seniority of the local events. Of course you can try to look at the pros of this move: as the pilots have had more time displaying their demos, they might fly them better compared to the start of the season, when the airforcedays have been held for quite some years now.

[topgun1984]

as the pilots have had more time displaying their demos, they might fly them better compared to the start of the season, when the airforcedays have been held for quite some years now.

That's not totally true. These pilots practice their routine throughout the year. Reds do that in Greece, Our Dutch demo of F-16 and Apache have also months and months op preparation.

it's not like: Ow =censored=, it's 3 weeks from now till the first show... Holy ==censored==, what's the routine and how are we going to fly it....

First timers could have some small errors in their routine, but that's the world of aviation. No one can be perfect the first time right? As pilot you do have the control of your plane, but the weather has the control of your flight.

[aviodromefriend]

First timers could have some small errors in their routine, but that's the world of aviation. No one can be perfect the first time right? As pilot you do have the control of your plane, but the weather has the control of your flight.

I think you don't get the point. Every time a demo pilot goes up the performance normally improves. Just because they learn from every flight. At the start of the season they have all that training, at the end they still have all that training (and also some in-between training probably), but also the demos flown during the season, making the whole thing even better. (and of course nobody can fly perfect, firsttimer or at your last show after a multiyear tour as demopilot. As admitted by the Reds themselves, they never fly a perfect demo, not in the beginning, not at the end of a season)

[Nielis]

Don't know if it is already posted but Team Viper will be at Leeuwarden according there site: http://www.teamviperdisplay.com/