Meiringen (LSMM) - 2011 MIL

[jeroenow]

sorry, maybe it is me, but what date? You mean in the week of 03 till 07 october?

Yes he mean that the 15 Hornets and 5 Tigers will fly the whole week (calendar week 40, 1-7 October). "Strabante" is the first bigger exercise since 1991 and all parts of airforce are involved.

Hello fellow spotters...

I have been to Meiringen two weeks ago (see topics here http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=74562 and here http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=74601) i had two beautifull days and boy, can you get close to the action there! It made me so enthusiastic, that i want to plan a spotting trip to Zwitserland. 1-7 October seems to be a very good week with lots of action and even the tigers flying....

My question is, what bases besides Meiringen are allso intersting to visit that week? don't know how many bases Zwitserland has in totall, what is stationed there and if you can get as close on the other bases as you can on Meiringen...

All info would be helpfull!

Grtz,
Menno

Maybe more interesting for you as a(n outstanding) photographer is considering going the following week, week 41, as there will be the annual Axalp Fliegerschiessen.

More info on http://www.lw.admin.ch/internet/luftwaf ... axalp.html

Instead of landing, taxiway and take off pictures you can take pics like these ones I made last year:







etc., etc., etc...

And for a photographer like you I guess this is also very interesting...

cheers Jeroen

[wild weasel]

Speaking of outstanding photographers, wholy macral! nice shots mister, very well done! Thanks for the info, maybe i will make a combination.....

kind regards Menno

[John Rambo]

Meiringen 30-08-11

F/A-18C:
J-5001
J-5004
J-5006
J-5010
J-5011
J-5021
J-5024

PC-6:
V-616

SA316B Alouette III
V-236 Stored in hangar

F-5E
J-3096 Stored in hangar, "ABDR" mks

Meiringen 01-09-11

F-5E
J-3??? Patrouille Suisse cs, hangar
J-3??? hangar

F/A-18C
J-5011
J-5019 did not return, probably went to Sion, J-5019 was at Sion at 02-09-11

PC-21
A-104 3x touch and go

V-236 and J-3096 were towed to platform

[swissmember]

My question is, what bases besides Meiringen are allso intersting to visit that week? don't know how many bases Zwitserland has in totall, what is stationed there and if you can get as close on the other bases as you can on Meiringen...

All info would be helpfull!

Grtz,
Menno

The other air force bases are Alpnach, Dübendorf, Emmen, Payerne, Sion and Locarno. I think the operations on that fields will be limited. Payerne, the main airbase of SwissAF will be calm (maybe 10-20 HO/TI per Day) because most of the aircrafts are in Meiringen. Alpnach the same because most of helicopters will coming from Payerne. Emmen ist mostly rather quiet (between 0-10 HO/TI per day) but has continuous flights with prop aircrafts like Pc-21. Dübendorf has an excellent museum. Sion has no planned military activities and Locarno I don't know .

Buochs is no longer an active military field and has mainly civil flights. But they currently have training flights with the Pc-21 for the UAE. Alle airbases have similar opportunities to take some photos.

[michel N]

Are you sure the choppers will operate from Payerne? I read somewhere that at least some choppers would fly from the airport of Sankt Stephan, this airport was also mentioned in connection to the Stabante exercise?


regards,

Michel

[swissmember]

Are you sure the choppers will operate from Payerne? I read somewhere that at least some choppers would fly from the airport of Sankt Stephan, this airport was also mentioned in connection to the Stabante exercise?


regards,

Michel

The official place of the air transport repetition course (helicopters, LT Geschwader 1) is Payerne but you are right they have a temporary base at St.Stephan.

[Eagledriver 32]

Deu to cancalation of the Axalp fliegerschiessen 2011, lots of people tried their luck at Meiringen the 12th of october.
The following I've seen from 08:30 till 11:00:

EC-635P2:
T-358
T-359
T-361

AS332M1:
T-313

PC-6:
V-614
V-619

PC-7:
A-939
A-941

F-5E:
J-3030
J-3033
J-3065
J-3067
J-3070

F/A-18C:
J-5002
J-5004
J-5007
J-5014
J-5018
J-5022
J-5026

F/A18D
J-5238

greetz Ewald

[leonard van T]

This is wath we noted at Meieringen 12-10-2011;

T-313 AS-332M1
T-351 EC-635VIP
T-358 EC-635P2+
T-361 EC-635P2+
T-362 EC-635P2+
V-614 PC-6/B2-H2M1
A-939 PC-7
J-3030 F-5E
J-3033 F-5E
J-3044 F-5E
J-3065 F-5E
J-3067 F-5E
J-3068 F-5E hangaar
J-3074 F-5E sleep
J-3077 F-5E
J-3093 F-5E hangaar
J-3095 F-5E
J-5004 F/A-18C
J-5007 F/A-18C
J-5013 F/A-18C
J-5017 F/A-18C s/c
J-5018 F/A-18C s/c
J-5022 F/A-18C
J-5026 F/A-18C
J-5233 F/A-18D (Payerne)*
J-5236 F/A-18D (Payerne)*
J-5037 F/A-18D
J-5238 F/A-18D
HB-XKE Ka-32A12 HeliSuisse *
HB-ZRT AW-109SP REGA *
HB-KEY DR400-500 nn *
HB-KEZ DR400-180R nn *

Leonard

[leonard van T]

Meieringen 11-10-2011 in the morning
A-939 PC-7
T-354 EC-635P2+ “SAR”
T-358 EC-635P2+
T-361 EC-635P2+
T-336 AS-535UL
T-339 AS-532UL
T-342 AS-532UL
J-3052 F-5E
J-3067 F-5E
J-3068 F-5E
J-3093 F-5E
HB-ZRC EC-145 REGA

and later that same day we came back;

J-3030 F-5E
J-3033 F-5E
J-3044 F-5E hangaar
J-3052 F-5E
J-3053? F-5E hangaar
J-3065 F-5E
J-3067 F-5E
J-3068 F-5E
J-3070 F-5E
J-3074 F-5E hangaar
J-3079 F-5E hangaar
J-3095 F-5E
J-3098 F-5E hangaar
J-5004 F/A-18C
J-5011 F/A-18C s/c
J-5017 F/A-18C s/c
J-5018 F/A-18C s/c
J-5022 F/A-18C
J-5026 F/A-18C
J-5238 F/A-18D
V-222 Alouette III hangaar fuselage only
T-354 EC-635P2+ “SAR”
T-361 EC-635P2+
T-336 AS-532UL
T-339 AS-532UL
T-342 AS-532UL
V-612 PC-6/B2-H2M1
V-614 PC-6/B2-H2M1
V-617 PC-6/B2-H2M1
V-622 PC-6/B2-H2M1 Pat.Suisse
A-939 PC-7
HB-ZRC EC-145 REGA

finaly scored my last F-5 J-3030 !

[DJdeRidder]

Great log! My only comment is that J-3053 was sold to the US Navy, so I very much doubt you really saw this one..?

[leonard van T]

now that you mention it, it did went to the USN so maby we missread it

Leonard

[Otto]

Can someone provide a full log of thursday morning, october 13th?

Many thanks!

Regards Otto

[leonard van T]

In the small (museum) hangar near the point were you can cross the runway there is an F-5 J-3096 there also used to be an Alouette III V-222
this one was now in the hangars on the other side, it is missing it,s tail boom.

I am sure I saw an Alouette next to the F-5 J-3096...but which one ??

Leonard

[sschofield]

The Allouette was V-236 on 16/09/11, and looked well preserved so I assume this must be the one that now belongs to the museum?

[Otto]

13-10-2011 Meieringen (08:00-12:00)

Flying:
AS332/AS532? T-3.. Parked apron
AS332/AS532? T-3.. (ARR)
AS532UL T-337
DHC-6.300 T-741
EC635P2+ T-358
EC635P2+ T-361
F/A-18C J-5002
F/A-18C J-5004
F/A-18C J-5007
F/A-18C J-5011 FlSt11 Tiger tail
F/A-18C J-5013
F/A-18C J-5014
F/A-18C J-5017 FlSt17 Falcons tail
F/A-18C J-5018 FlSt18 Panthers tail.
F/A-18C J-5022
F/A-18D J-5237
F/A-18D J-5238
F-5E J-3030
F-5E J-3033
F-5E J-3044
F-5E J-3052
F-5E J-3065
F-5E J-3067 *
F-5E J-3068
F-5E J-3070
F-5E J-3074 *
F-5E J-3079
F-5E J-3095
PC-6B2/H2 V-612
PC-6B2/H2 V-632
PC-7 A-928

Other:
F-5E J-3... bare metal c/s towed to QRA shelter

* Many thanks Vinflyer