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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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Ger wrote:
Xanadu_A343 wrote:KLM will reintroduce Miami from 28OCT2012 onwards:

15:20-19:35 KL627 AMS-MIA M11 X26
21:35-12:10 KL628 MIA-AMS M11 X26

The flight arrives and departs Miami one hour later until 6NOV2012 due to DST.

source: http://www.klm.nl
Your source klm.nl is nonsense because that leads to the front portal of klm.com.
If the info is correct as written, provide us the right URL for this information.

Rgds, Ger
It is April 2012 and KLM.com continues to offer 5x/weekly MD11 service AMS-MIA-AMS for reservations starting for the Winter timetable 2012-2013:

- dep. 15:20 Amsterdam - arr. 19:35 Miami 10h15 L0627 MD11 Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
- dep. 21:35 Miami - arr. 12:10 Amsterdam 8h35 KL0628 MD11 Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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XYZ wrote:It is April 2012 and KLM.com continues to offer 5x/weekly MD11 service AMS-MIA-AMS for reservations starting for the Winter timetable 2012-2013:

- dep. 15:20 Amsterdam - arr. 19:35 Miami 10h15 L0627 MD11 Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
- dep. 21:35 Miami - arr. 12:10 Amsterdam 8h35 KL0628 MD11 Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
I asked a question in the KLM speculeer topic approximately three weeks ago about Miami, and user MAS017 replied:
MAS017 wrote:MIA wordt NIET in de winter opgestart door de KLM :!:

Bron: KLM vloot- en crewsysteem...

Misschien dat DELTA het gaat overnemen :?: was nu al code-share met DL...

Zoals al eerder vermeld: de reserverings-systemen ijlen altijd na; vroeg of laat worden de KL0627/8 passagiers overgeboekt (is altijd beter dan nu alles al 'af te houden')...

MXP was ook nog een tijdje te boeken ook nadat bekend was dat er alleen nog naar LIN zou worden gevlogen...
I still find it strange the route is still bookable nearly four months after its cancellation. Normally airlines stop reservations on axed routes days or weeks after announcing the news, which is in my opinion fair to customers. Maybe KLM is evaluating the number of bookings and will decide to go ahead or cancel AMS-MIA later this summer. The Delta code-share is also still active for this route and it is also loaded in the MIA timetable.
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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Vlucht staat niet meer in het KLM vloot en crewsysteem (al enige maanden!!!); denk dat KLM de reserveringssystemen open houdt omdat DL de route wil/gaat overnemen...
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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Transavia has released the schedule for its new service AMS-DXB-AMS starting Winter 2012-2013:

- HV 6901 - dep. Amsterdam 06:30 - arr. Dubai 16:55 - B737 - Mon, Thu
- HV 6902 - dep. Dubai 17:50 - arr. Amsterdam 00:45 - B737 - Mon, Thu

Interesting to see that HV also lists Erbil as a destination on its route map, but this city does not appear in its reservations yet.
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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OLT Express is to start new service between Rzesow and Amsterdam from 30OCT2012:

18:00-19:55 02421 RZE-AMS 320 247
20:40-22:35 02422 AMS-RZE 320 247

source: http://www.oltexpress.com/en/rozklad_lotow/ams
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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Xanadu_A343 wrote:OLT Express is to start new service between Rzesow and Amsterdam from 30OCT2012:

18:00-19:55 02421 RZE-AMS 320 247
20:40-22:35 02422 AMS-RZE 320 247

source: http://www.oltexpress.com/en/rozklad_lotow/ams
OLT Express is the new name of OLT Jetair? Or aren't they the same airline?
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Jeroentjuh wrote:
Xanadu_A343 wrote:OLT Express is to start new service between Rzesow and Amsterdam from 30OCT2012:

18:00-19:55 02421 RZE-AMS 320 247
20:40-22:35 02422 AMS-RZE 320 247

source: http://www.oltexpress.com/en/rozklad_lotow/ams
OLT Express is the new name of OLT Jetair? Or aren't they the same airline?
Same airline however Jetair houses the Fokker 100 and Saab 2000 and Express seems to be A320 only
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Hurricane wrote:
Jeroentjuh wrote:
Xanadu_A343 wrote:OLT Express is to start new service between Rzesow and Amsterdam from 30OCT2012:
OLT Express is the new name of OLT Jetair? Or aren't they the same airline?
Same airline however Jetair houses the Fokker 100 and Saab 2000 and Express seems to be A320 only
well still 6 months to go before the start. so still can change a lot in the fleet size or types... :wink:
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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easyJet has announced a new route for Winter 2012-2013, NCL-AMS-NCL.

This will be in addition to the new Summer routes SEN-AMS-SEN and LIS-AMS-LIS, which will also be operated for the 1st time this Winter.

Jet2 operated NCL-AMS-NCL in competition with KLM for several years before pulling off the route.
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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In addition to Rszeszow OLT Express will start 1x daily Warsaw-Amsterdam and Gdansk-Amsterdam from 29OCT2012:

10:00-11:50 O2709 320 WAW-AMS Daily
12:35-14:25 O2710 320 AMS-WAW Daily

10:15-11:50 O2609 320 GDN-AMS Daily
12:35-14:10 O2610 320 AMS-GDN Daily

source: http://www.oltexpress.com
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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The latest OAG update shows the following changes to the AMS Winter Schedules 2012-2013:

KLM:
- ABZ 6x/day
- FRA 6x/day
- KRS 3x/day
- BLL 5x/day
- BER 6x/day
- TLS 4x/day
- MRS 4x/day
- ZRH 6x/day
- GVA 6x/day
- BGO down 3x/day
- VCE 4x/day
- IEV 2x/day
- CPH 6x/day
- YYC 5x/week
- LUN 3x/week
- LAD 2x/week (Tue & Thu)
- CAI 7x/week B777 for the time being
- DMM 7x/week
- DXB 11x/week B777 & A330
- THR 7x/week MD11
- XMN 3x/week
- ATH 1x/day + HV 3x/week (and that is all)

Other airlines:
- DY ARN 6x/week
- LH HAM 4x/day
- AF NTE 19x/week SXB only 17x/week
- AP MXP 2x/daily A320
- HV BUD 4x/week
- SK CPH 5x/day
- OV TLL 2x/day
- BT RIX 2x/day
- GA JKT DXB 4x/week
- SQ SIN daily 77W
- EK DXB daily A388
- CZ CAN daily A332

and UA will operate daily B757 AMS-EWR-SFO for those who love narrow bodies.

No doubt further changes will occur.
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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easyJet has released the timetable for NCL-AMS-NCL which will be operated 5x/week:

- dep. 09.50 NCL - arr. AMS 12.10 Thu
- dep. 17.00 NCL - arr. AMS 19.20 Mon, Wed, Fri
- dep. 18.00 NCL - arr. AMS 20.20 Sun

- dep. 12.40 AMS - arr. NCL 13.00 Thu
- dep. 19.50 AMS - arr. NCL 20.10 Mon, Wed, Fri
- dep. 20.50 AMS - arr. NCL 21.10 Sun

Operations start on Thursday 13 December 2012.

The other easyjet routes are planned to be operated as follows:

- LGW 29x/week
- MXP 25x/week
- LTN 23x/week
- STN 20x/week
- GVA 17x/week
- LPL 15x/week
- SEN 13x/week = new
- MAN 13x/week
- BSL 11x/week
- BER 11x/week
- BFS 10x/week
- BRS 10x/week
- EDI 9x/week
- MAD 7x/week
- GLA 5x/week
- NCL 5x/week = new
- PRG 5x/week
- LIS 4x/week = new
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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according Airliners.net FleBy should begin flying from Amsterdam to EastMidlands with the beginning of the winterschedule.

This in advance of the probability that BMIbaby should stop and this is possible.

Details have to be sorted out with the airport.

gr.

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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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Airlineroute reports several adjustments to the KLM winter schedules, of which the most important are:

- AMS-ATL opb A333/332 iso the planned B772/77W
- AMS-EZE increases from 3 to 4 weekly B772 iso planned B77W
- AMS-CPT opb B772 iso mix B772/77W
- AMS-CAI 4x weekly iso daily B772
- AMS-DRO/KIA opb A333 iso planned B77W
- AMS-DXB reduced from 12x weekly to daily B772
- AMS-JNB from 06DEC2012 onwards a mix of B772/77W
- AMS-KUL increase from daily to 10x weekly. Mix of B74E/772/77W
- AMS-PBM increase from 3 to 4 weekly B744
- AMS-GYE-UIO increase from 4 to 5 weekly B772/77W
- AMS-PVG reduces from 12x weekly to 10x weekly
- AMS-TPE-MNL mix of B772/77W
- AMS-THR 4x weekly iso daily opb MD-11
- AMS-IAD daily A332 iso planned A332/333

The full article: http://airlineroute.net/2012/05/10/kl-w12-update2/
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Re: NEWS - Winter Schedule 2012 - 2013

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KLM plans to launch a dedicated AMS-KUL-AMS flight in Winter 2012:

- AMS dep. 12.35 - arr. KUL 07.20 KL811 B747Combi Mon, Wed, Sat
- KUL dep. 09.20 - arr. AMS 15.20 KL812 B747Combi Tue, Thu, Sun

This service is in addition to the regular daily B777 AMS-KUL-JKT-KUL-AMS.
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