AMS/EHAM/Schiphol/04-01-2012 Air Astana tailstrike

[wild weasel]

No one has pics more from the side? Nice to catch this moment.

Shooting from Romeo through the fence would have given a nice photo opportunity too! anyone?

[maarten-sr]

thx guys for the welcome extra info

one more, a better view to the smoke he left behind after the tail strike

P4-KCA B767 Air Astana left smoke behind after tail strike by maarten-sr, on Flickr

[wild weasel]

Wow, That was a rough scratcher!

[LarsEHAM]

Quite a memerable moment!
Does any o e know what radio station it was broadcasted? Or has any ATC recordings?

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[CoHaBa]

ATC contact about the tailstrike: http://audioboo.fm/boos/611724-04-01-20 ... ded-safely

[LarsEHAM]

ATC contact about the tailstrike: http://audioboo.fm/boos/611724-04-01-20 ... ded-safely

THANKS!

[palletmike]

No signs of visible damage during landing...

IMG_8038a1200a by Palletmike, on Flickr

[SilverWingPix]

Nicely caught everyoen.

No signs of visible damage during landing...

Seems the tail skid did it´s job.

Interesting study here on Tail Strikes:
http://www.caa.gov.tw/en/download/fsd/TailStrike.pdf

E.

[mospl]

...de B767 heeft zijn start niet afgebroken...

... misschien heeft iemand nog aanvullende informatie of correctie op mijn verhaal...

After V1, which is somewhere in the latter part of the takeoff roll, you're not supposed to abort a takeoff. If they would have, they'd have ended up on the A4 somewhere..

The EICAS message "tailskid" will probably have popped up on the flight deck, indicating to the crew what happened.

Ik was gisteren aan het mee luisteren op ops 2/ banenkanaal er werd gemeld dat de vlieger klein stuk van de baan heeft geraakt zoals jullie weten er is geen VOS van gemaakt maar uit voorzorg heeft de vlieger voor het zeker als onzekere genomen om terug te vliegen naar Schiphol . voor zover ik weet ....

[mospl]

P4-KCA B767 Air Astana tail strike by maarten-sr, on Flickr


route from Apeldoorn after turning back to Schiphol, screenshot from my iPhone

P4-KCA route after tail strike by maarten-sr, on Flickr

Mooi werk !

een vraag je welke applicatie is dat ??

[Thijs]

Note that English is mandatory in this forum!

[Thermal]

Good job Maarten: you also made it onto the AV Herald.

Good to see it ended well. This reminds me:
The other week I was at Flight Simulation Company at Schiphol Oost. Air Astana trains it's pilots there for the A320 family and their 767's. While at FSC I was shocked to learn that over 80% (!!) of their current pilots can not pass the COMPASS test!! The COMPASS test is a basic aptitude test that is used by many flight schools and airlines to check if a individual has the basic skills to become a pilot.

80%!

[76-er]

Ik was gisteren aan het mee luisteren op ops 2/ banenkanaal er werd gemeld dat de vlieger klein stuk van de baan heeft geraakt zoals jullie weten er is geen VOS van gemaakt maar uit voorzorg heeft de vlieger voor het zeker als onzekere genomen om terug te vliegen naar Schiphol . voor zover ik weet ....

After a (possible) tailstrike there is a risk of aft pressure bulkhead damage, what may lead to a rapid decompression alt high altitude. Good decision from the crew to return.

Btw, what's "VOS"?

While at FSC I was shocked to learn that over 80% (!!) of their current pilots can not pass the COMPASS test!! The COMPASS test is a basic aptitude test that is used by many flight schools and airlines to check if a individual has the basic skills to become a pilot.

80%!

Odd. So you are saying Astana lets their pilots undertake this test áfter they are hired? Sounds like a monkey sandwich to me.

[Thermal]

Odd. So you are saying Astana lets their pilots undertake this test áfter they are hired? Sounds like a monkey sandwich to me.

No unfortunately this is very real. This test has never been done by pilots who already were flying for Astana (it is not a mandatory test). When Astana bought Western planes they needed to implement Western standards and that is why they have introduced this test. To see how the skills and knowledge of their own pilots compare to Western standards. Apparently the're not there quite yet.

But back to topic.

[LarsEHAM]

Btw, what's "VOS"?

Vliegtuig ongeval Schiphol
More info:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vliegtuigongevalscenario