Kecskemét International Air Show, 16/17 August 2008

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 26 Aug 2008, 12:27

Hilco wrote:hi Aviodromefriend.

The SK-61 was already mentioned by Patrick Dirksen as c/n 190 ex swedish AF 61072.

If I take a quick look at my own updated report I miss the following:

Serial of B-25 red Bull
ex mil serial of UTVA 66 YU-DOG
real serials of:
MIG-19PM "1978" PRESERVED NEAR CAFÉ/BAR
MIG-15 "1976" PRESERVED NEAR CAFÉ/BAR

And from the original report I am still hoping to find a lot of confirmed units (identified by markings)....

thanks in advance,

Hilco

Sorry, missed the one from Patrick (actually, wasn't reading the full topic, just scanning what was not handeled, I know, shouldn't do that).

About the MiG 15: An old edition from European Wreck and Relics gives a MiG-15bis as marked 1976. I don't know if it is the same, but there was mentioned it was 725 c/n 31530725, but there might be more MiG-15's around marked 1976. At that time the Hungarian Air Force had the (IMHO terrible) habit to change the serial into the year the aircraft was wfu. Unfortunately the MiG-19 was also unknown there.

According to Aircraft Illustrated April 2007 the Mitchell should be N6123C, but the american register shows another owner than Red Bull for this frame http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... dfind.y=16

patrick dirksen · Post by **patrick dirksen** » 27 Aug 2008, 12:32

Serial of B-25 red Bull
ex mil serial of UTVA 66 YU-DOG
real serials of:
MIG-19PM "1978" PRESERVED NEAR CAFÉ/BAR
MIG-15 "1976" PRESERVED NEAR CAFÉ/BAR

The Mitchell is indeed N6123C (former 44-86893). The MiG-19 is really a MiG-17PF, and used to be Hun AF 401, while the MiG-15bis used to be Hun AF 725 (both taken from EMOOS).
The UTVA is unfortunately also still on my unknown-list.

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 27 Aug 2008, 15:04

patrick dirksen wrote: The MiG-19 is really a MiG-17PF, and used to be Hun AF 401

Are we talking about the same aircraft? I haven't seen those myself but the list I referred to shows both a MiG-17PF and a MiG-19PM. The MiG-17 was stated to be stored-ex preserved, the MiG-19 was preserved (OK, sightings were from 1997, so a lot can have changed in the meantime). Both should be marked 1976.

rcma · Post by **rcma** » 27 Aug 2008, 21:05

Our report is online on Kecskemet:HERE THE LINK

patrick dirksen · Post by **patrick dirksen** » 28 Aug 2008, 14:13

AFAIK there is NO MiG-19 (anymore?) at Kecskemet. I know there used to be one according to some reports, but I don't think there was ever a picture of it available. So it might be a misidentification, but on the other hand it might just have moved on.
Anyway, the MiG-17 is preserved together with the MiG-15bis and MiG-21F-13 (that could only be seen from up close apparently).