The Dutch airliner delivery thread

Zwaan · Post by **Zwaan** » 01 Aug 2007, 23:35

Within KLC we have heard a lot of things about the ERJ 190 but nothing has been officially announced withing the company yet. Nevertheless colleague Pietpiloot is spot on with his comment. As to be honest this is all we pilots know for the moment...

Nobody knows when an statement will be made. First rumours were beginning of july, then end of July and now it should be in August. But it should not take long since the new type should be introduced at the end of 2008.

I think the only order will be for ERJ 190's since the F100's have the biggest problems due to there big history of owners and being the first A/C from the production line. The F70's are relatively young and have much less complaints than the 10 F100's we are talking about. But time will tell.

By the way; there are only some long term plans about replacing the F50's with Dash 8's or ATR's but nothing is concrete yet. The F100 fleet is the biggest problem for now.

jfaltena · Post by **jfaltena** » 03 Aug 2007, 15:24

According this article (Dutch only) on http://www.nu.nl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; AF-KLM will buy 40 Embraer 190's. Not yet confirmed by KLM, but that won't take long, I guess...

Grtz, John

phkza · Post by **phkza** » 03 Aug 2007, 15:29

Next week the quarterly AF/KL results we be announced, so I'd expect an announcement about fleet renewal to be made then.

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 10 Aug 2007, 12:53

phkza wrote:Next week the quarterly AF/KL results we be announced, so I'd expect an announcement about fleet renewal to be made then.

Speednews reports the following:

AIR FRANCE-KLM had _415m net income on _5.9b revenues in quarter ended June 30 vs _244m on _5.8b
a year ago; its third party maintenance business earned _13m on _243m revenues vs _3m on _231m a year ago.

Regarding the Emb190 order, Speednews reports:

AIR FRANCE-KLM ordered four E190s and six E170s for RÉGIONAL and 10 E190s for KLM CITYHOPPER (KLC)
for 2008-2011, and optioned three E190s and six E170s for Régional and nine E190s for KLC. In addition to E190s,
KLC plans to acquire five Fokker 70s (11540/11541/11543/11556/11558) from Régional to replace 15 Fokker 100s.

Crdit to Speednews for these two pieces of info.

Bye, Chris.

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 10 Aug 2007, 12:58

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cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 31 Aug 2007, 11:53

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Hiya,

Latest Speednews (Credit) reports:

AIR EXPRESS, Sweden leased ex-Aravco Fokker 100 (11286) from Mass Holding, The Netherlands.

Bye, Chris.

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 17 Sep 2007, 00:29

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Hiya,

Thanks to Aviation Letter issue 490 and an anonimous source, the list has been updated again...

Bye, Chris.

n5205e00421 · Post by **n5205e00421** » 01 Oct 2007, 18:45

Interstate Airlines is now rumoured to be starting operations with the Lockheed Tristar. In the Flight International (Issue 2-8 Oct) they have quite a big advertisement looking for Tristar-crews and on their website it also shows a L1011 under "Fleet". Well, so are the A300 and B737... I believe it when I see it. Has their second ATR even been seen btw?

L.

phkza · Post by **phkza** » 01 Oct 2007, 19:18

Correct. A former Delta L-1011-500 was ferried from Victorville to Amman for maintenance. When this is completed the aircraft will go to Interstate, according to this article.

jfaltena · Post by **jfaltena** » 10 Oct 2007, 14:00

Just wondering; since Solid Air seems to be growing (lately acquired 2 Do 328 (?)), would it be an idea to add them in this thread ?

Grtz, John

Raptor16 · Post by **Raptor16** » 10 Oct 2007, 21:19

Anybody knows when the third Martinair BCF will arrive?

cHabu · Post by **cHabu** » 10 Oct 2007, 23:43

jfaltena wrote:Just wondering; since Solid Air seems to be growing (lately acquired 2 Do 328 (?)), would it be an idea to add them in this thread ?

This thread can contain all sorts of 'delivery' info you wish, just as long as 'you' provide the info...

So if you have relevant info, just post it and i'll add it in the list....

Bye, Chris.

LimburgSpotter · Post by **LimburgSpotter** » 11 Oct 2007, 09:34

Interstate Airlines [Nederlands]
bereitet die Übernahme der ex Delta Airlines L-1011-500 (msn 1189) vor. Die Maschine steht zur Zeit nach erfolgter Grundüberholung in Amman und soll noch im Oktober nach Maastricht überführt werden.

Source: http://www.eucomairlines.de/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

phkza · Post by **phkza** » 11 Oct 2007, 09:45

LimburgSpotter wrote:
Interstate Airlines [Nederlands]
bereitet die Übernahme der ex Delta Airlines L-1011-500 (msn 1189) vor. Die Maschine steht zur Zeit nach erfolgter Grundüberholung in Amman und soll noch im Oktober nach Maastricht überführt werden.
Source: http://www.eucomairlines.de/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What else is new?

phkza wrote:Correct. A former Delta L-1011-500 was ferried from Victorville to Amman for maintenance. When this is completed the aircraft will go to Interstate, according to this article.

tva2 · Post by **tva2** » 11 Oct 2007, 09:59

Raptor16 wrote:Anybody knows when the third Martinair BCF will arrive?

PH-MPR Boeing 747-412(BCF) Martinair Holland Due 2007-10 4x PW PW4056 Cargo lsf Guggenheim

http://www.planespotters.net/Production ... 24226.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;