Port visits Netherlands - 2008

Rockville · Post by **Rockville** » 26 Jun 2008, 18:03

MvS wrote:Expected in Amsterdam (Veemkade) 3 July - USS Elrod - could carry 2 Seahawks.

There also the rumour that the ship will be present during the Navy Days in Den Helder, July 11-14.

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 26 Jun 2008, 23:32

Rockville wrote:There also the rumour that the ship will be present during the Navy Days in Den Helder, July 11-14.

This is semi-confirmed here: http://www.marine.nl/nieuws/evenementen ... a/schepen/

Rockville · Post by **Rockville** » 26 Jun 2008, 23:46

USS Elrod will also be present at the Belgian Navy Days, June 28&29.

Ramses2 · Post by **Ramses2** » 03 Jul 2008, 20:31

I checked the USS Elrod but there is no Seahawk visible ,only a big blue
tent.I placed a picture on flickr (see link below if you want to see it)
I was hoping for a Seahawk:-(

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23539919@N06/2633774913/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gr.Rob

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 03 Jul 2008, 20:38

Ramses2 wrote:I checked the USS Elrod but there is no Seahawk visible ,only a big blue tent.

Gr.Rob

Reminds me of the story I heard about the exercise Brilliant Mariner a few years ago..... The states bring their own tent nowadays, I think.

Rockville · Post by **Rockville** » 03 Jul 2008, 20:47

aviodromefriend wrote: Reminds me of the story I heard about the exercise Brilliant Mariner a few years ago..... The states bring their own tent nowadays, I think.

You're quite right. Most naval vessels carry a tent, wich covers the flightdeck. As the inside space on board is not sufficient to receive great numbers of persons for RPC's aso, these festivities are held on the flighdeck. The tents in most of the navies are white, ivo summerconditions.

Denmen · Post by **Denmen** » 03 Jul 2008, 22:28

Ramses2 wrote:I checked the USS Elrod but there is no Seahawk visible ,only a big blue
tent.I placed a picture on flickr (see link below if you want to see it)
I was hoping for a Seahawk:-(

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23539919@N06/2633774913/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gr.Rob

Since the withdraw of the Sea Sprite there hasn’t been any chopper stationed on the Elrod any more... The hangars are too small to fit a hawk according to a crewmember last Sunday at Zeebrugge.

Groets,

Dennis

Thijs · Post by **Thijs** » 04 Jul 2008, 00:39

According Wikipedia (one may say how reliable this source is) only the short holl version of this type class does not have a chopper onboard, the long hull versions can carry a Sea Hawk.

By the way this type is also in use by the Polish Navy, and guess which chopper they have aquired for ship duties...the Sea Sprite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Haz ... ss_frigate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 04 Jul 2008, 09:48

Thijs wrote:this type is also in use by the Polish Navy, and guess which chopper they have aquired for ship duties...the Sea Sprite.

I don't think there is any discussion if this ship can carry a Sea Sprite, Thijs. When the States were flying Sea Sprites they used it from this ship, as a crewmember told one of the forummembers. The discussion is: can it carry a Sea Hawk?

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 04 Jul 2008, 10:01

aviodromefriend wrote:The discussion is: can it carry a Sea Hawk?

Now even that is not the discussion, the discussion is are there any Seahawks onboard and if so, what are the serials...

Cheers,

aviodromefriend · Post by **aviodromefriend** » 04 Jul 2008, 10:25

Melchior Timmers wrote:Now even that is not the discussion, the discussion is are there any Seahawks onboard and if so, what are the serials...

As the crewmember told, it can't carry a Seahawk. In my opinion the discussion then can't reach the status of which Seahawk is onboard. For me the crewmember made it clear at Zeebrugge there won't be one onboard.

Thijs · Post by **Thijs** » 04 Jul 2008, 11:04

Just some background information. I was interested of all ships of this particular ship class could not carry a Seahawk. Could be useful information when such a ship type calls again in a port.

I never doubt about the statement that this particular ship can not carry a Seahawk. It was just curiosity.

Denmen · Post by **Denmen** » 04 Jul 2008, 16:25

The following site makes it al clear...http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Oli ... id/5349749

FFG-7 class ships were produced in 445 foot (136 m) "short-hull" (Flight I)and 455 foot (139 m) "long-hull" (Flight III)variants. The long-hull ships (FFG 8, 28, 29, 32, 33, 36-61) carry the SH-60 Seahawk LAMPS III helicopters, while the short-hull units carry the less-capable SH-2 Seasprite.

The Elrod is actually a long-hull (FG-55)... So the knowledge of the crewmember is not very high I suppose...

But one thing is a fact: There is unfortunately no chopper onboard the Elrod...

Robert · Post by **Robert** » 06 Jul 2008, 13:54

Taken from the US Navy site:
Aircraft: Two SH-60 (LAMPS III) in FFG 8, 28, 29, 32, 33, 36-61
One SH-2 (Lamps Mk-I) in FFG 9-19, 30, 31.

So according to the USN she is able to take 2 SH-60's with her, but as said right now there is not one

.

Ramses2 · Post by **Ramses2** » 15 Jul 2008, 13:00

Thursday 3 Japanese frigattes are expected JDS Kashima,JDS Asagiri & JDS Umigiri .Last time a couple of years ago one had a Seahawk on deck ! (see Seawaves.com) hopefully thel will be at the Veemkade.(PTA)

Regards Rob

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