Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Vera is now on it's way to Antwerpen. So maybe the next Apache transport?
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Dynamica is heading south on the river Rhine, past Speyer 17:30 local.
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
It seems we stand corrected here.....Crouze wrote:Uhm...
That's easy: zero. These are flat barges and there is no such thing here as "under deck"...TF-104G wrote:nice pic, the big question is how many AH-64 are under deck
Can anyone check their pics for a 'ramp' down into the cargo hold?
Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
I'm equally surprised, and could not find any supporting proof on the web regarding this double deck. Unfortunately there are not many pics on the web, so we might have been 'fooled' during the many past trips this/these vessel(s) made.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward for the log of Coleman so I can make up my mind what to do next week.
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Hi all,
Seen today offloaded from the ship were (in this order):
AH-64D:
02-05316
09-05587
02-05344
04-05426
04-05431
09-05580
03-05367
08-05557
03-05389
08-05547
02-05312
08-05551
CH-47F:
08-08047
06-08023
07-08034
08-08045
These were towed towards Coleman Barracks in two groups. First group were the first eight of the above mentioned AH-64's
second group were the four remaining AH-64's and the four CH-47's
Took a look on Coleman but could only see 3 UH-60's standing outside near the hangars. Not readble...
HTH,
Elmar
Seen today offloaded from the ship were (in this order):
AH-64D:
02-05316
09-05587
02-05344
04-05426
04-05431
09-05580
03-05367
08-05557
03-05389
08-05547
02-05312
08-05551
CH-47F:
08-08047
06-08023
07-08034
08-08045
These were towed towards Coleman Barracks in two groups. First group were the first eight of the above mentioned AH-64's
second group were the four remaining AH-64's and the four CH-47's
Took a look on Coleman but could only see 3 UH-60's standing outside near the hangars. Not readble...
HTH,
Elmar
Last edited by Elmar on 31 Jan 2013, 20:48, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Have you seen the first eight Apaches coming out of this ship, or could it be these were in port since a previous transport?
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Hi Elmar,
Thanks for unveiling this mystery and your great log. Was the vessel unloaded at the Natostrasse near the village of Nordheim? Or unloaded further south? No problems while being there and taking pics? Lastely, can you advise if those helicopters were towed away instantly to the airfield via the Bundesstrassen?
MTIA,
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Thanks for unveiling this mystery and your great log. Was the vessel unloaded at the Natostrasse near the village of Nordheim? Or unloaded further south? No problems while being there and taking pics? Lastely, can you advise if those helicopters were towed away instantly to the airfield via the Bundesstrassen?
MTIA,
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Did not exactly see them offloading the vessel...this was done behind the treeline. No problems with the Polizei, but you cannot come very close to them.
But be patience...they are being towed (!) towards Coleman and you can see them come by. Pictures speak for themselve:
![Image](http://www.eyecatch-shots.nl/JPEG/Temp/temp1.jpg)
![Image](http://www.eyecatch-shots.nl/JPEG/Temp/temp2.jpg)
![Image](http://www.eyecatch-shots.nl/JPEG/Temp/temp3.jpg)
But be patience...they are being towed (!) towards Coleman and you can see them come by. Pictures speak for themselve:
![Image](http://www.eyecatch-shots.nl/JPEG/Temp/temp1.jpg)
![Image](http://www.eyecatch-shots.nl/JPEG/Temp/temp2.jpg)
![Image](http://www.eyecatch-shots.nl/JPEG/Temp/temp3.jpg)
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
On Monday 03-05389 was seen on the Dynamica but it is not in your list. On the pictures from Stipjes you can read it also.
Patrick
Patrick
Elmar wrote:Hi all,
Seen today offloaded from the ship were (in this order):
AH-64D:
02-05316
09-05587
02-05344
04-05426
04-05431
09-05580
03-05367
08-05557
03-05383
08-05547
02-05312
08-05551
CH-47F:
08-08047
06-08023
07-08034
08-08045
These were towed towards Coleman Barracks in two groups. First group were the first eight of the above mentioned AH-64's
second group were the four remaining AH-64's and the four CH-47's
Took a look on Coleman but could only see 3 UH-60's standing outside near the hangars. Not readble...
HTH,
Elmar
Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Thanks for the correction. Checked again my pictures and 03-05383 should be 03-05389!!
And corrected in the original log.
And corrected in the original log.
Patrick Moonen wrote:On Monday 03-05389 was seen on the Dynamica but it is not in your list. On the pictures from Stipjes you can read it also.
Patrick
Elmar wrote:Hi all,
Seen today offloaded from the ship were (in this order):
AH-64D:
02-05316
09-05587
02-05344
04-05426
04-05431
09-05580
03-05367
08-05557
03-05383
08-05547
02-05312
08-05551
CH-47F:
08-08047
06-08023
07-08034
08-08045
These were towed towards Coleman Barracks in two groups. First group were the first eight of the above mentioned AH-64's
second group were the four remaining AH-64's and the four CH-47's
Took a look on Coleman but could only see 3 UH-60's standing outside near the hangars. Not readble...
HTH,
Elmar
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
my ques is the other 8 AH-64D where brought earlier, i don't think the Vessel can carry below deck, that could also be a reason tho why being towed in 2 groups.
24-01-13 the Dynamica also arrived in Karlsruhe...
24-01-13 the Dynamica also arrived in Karlsruhe...
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Well I don't agree with that. I visited the offload site (Natostrasse) yesterday evening (30 jan) at about 1800lt and there was no movement, no helicopters and no ship at all.. According to local MP's all is being offloaded this morning.FISHER01 wrote:my ques is the other 8 AH-64D where brought earlier, i don't think the Vessel can carry below deck, that could also be a reason tho why being towed in 2 groups.
24-01-13 the Dynamica also arrived in Karlsruhe...
But unfortenatly I did get a clear view on the ship (and barge) herself...
Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
what's the name of the dock where the choppers are loaded in Antwerp? The Vera is now in the harbour of Antwerp, but as I don't remember the name of the dock, I don't know if this ship will carry the next load or not.
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
In 2010 I was at dock 1620 and saw unloaded UH60. (N51°16", E4°14")michel N wrote:what's the name of the dock where the choppers are loaded in Antwerp? The Vera is now in the harbour of Antwerp, but as I don't remember the name of the dock, I don't know if this ship will carry the next load or not.
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Re: Ship with helicopters @ inland waterway - 2013 MIL
Vrasenedok it is. But mind you, there are also a lot of cars ready to be loaded there. But let's keep an eye out!
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Jeroen
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