Turkish F-4 50th anniversary, Eskisehir LTBI, November 16th & 17th 2024

[747woody]

16/11/24 Low level
F-4E-2020 111 Filo
(77-0303) special anniversary markings, no visible exterior ID, serial from groundcrew
73-1052

They both did twelve passes!

17/11/24 Eskisehir AB
F-4E-2020 111 Filo
Static
73-1027
77-0286
(77-0303) towed in after flying am
77-0290
73-1047

Flying am
(77-0303)
73-1046
73-1048
73-1052
77-0278

Flying pm
(77-0303)
73-1046
73-1048
73-1052

Elephant Walk
(77-0303)
73-1046
73-1048
73-1052
77-0278
73-1053 special tail, 111 Filo 100th anniversary
73-1039 401 Filo
77-0300 401 Filo
77-0279 unmarked
73-1049

North east ramp
CN235
97-131
94-067
95-091
95-093
93-057

Hangar
95-099 CN235 tail sticking out

Visitors
91-003 GIV
94-068 CN235
97-133 CN235

W&R
Gate guards, on poles (from Eurodemobbed)
(27142) F-84F (database has this as 53-7142)
(19212) Sabre 2 (database has this as 19214, with 19212 going to Greece)
(54-1756) F-100C
(67-0290) F-4E-2020

Near gate (from Eurodemobbed)
(59-0306/2-306) T-37B
(10570/5-570) F-5A
(62-12239) F-104G (Eurodemobbed have this as CF-104 62-751, whilst Spotting Mode have this as 7185/6-185, but that is reported b/u in the database. See comments below)
(69-7478/1-7478) RF-4E
(21410/2-410) CT-33AN
(63946/3-946) F-100F

Base Ops (from Spotting Mode)
(41548/1-548) RT-33A
(10987/1-10987) F-84G
(6933) AT-11
(7234/1-7234) RF-84F
(55-2775/1-775) F-100D

Google Earth shows a compound on the south western side of the base with around 24 F-4s and a few F-5s, plus possibly a few F-16s?
There are also six stored F-4s not far north of the road from the main gate plus a derelict one out on the airfield.

[Ed]

CN235 sticking out of the hanger was 95-099

The 5 on the North East Ramp :-
97-131 ( white )
94-067 ( white )
95-091
95-093
93-057

Alongside 94-068 on the visitors apron was 97-133

Four more F-4's formed a static line-up :-
77-0290
77-0286
73-1047
73-1027

[747woody]

CN235 sticking out of the hanger was 95-099

The 5 on the North East Ramp :-
97-131 ( white )
94-067 ( white )
95-091
95-093
93-057

Alongside 94-068 on the visitors apron was 97-133

Four more F-4's formed a static line-up :-
77-0290
77-0286
73-1047
73-1027

Thanks.

DOH, forgot the static!

[aerodroid]

Hangared and visible through partially open doors on arrival were an F-16 and an AS532. On leaving another AS532 and an F-4E were visible in a different, lit, hangar The first AS532 reported as 531???. Remains of an F-4 for the firemen to play with near the firestation

[Fishbed_9307]

Flying am
(77-0303)
73-1046
73-1048
73-1052
77-0278

Flying pm
(77-0303)
73-1046
73-1052
77-0278

Elephant Walk
(77-0303)
73-1046
73-1048
73-1052
77-0278
73-1053 special tail, 111 Filo 100th anniversary
73-1039 401 Filo
77-0300 401 Filo
77-0279 unmarked
73-1049

Thanks for the log!

A small correction, PM 73-1052 flew together with 73-1046, 73-1048 and 77-0303 the coloured one, 77-0278 did not fly PM. However, 77-0278 flew AM and went into the south-eastern HAS-area after landing but joined the Elephant Walk in the afternoon together with the two 401 Filo aircraft and 73-1053 with the special tail along with 73-1049 and 77-0279 from the north-eastern HAS-area.

[747woody]

Thanks for the log!

A small correction, PM 73-1052 flew together with 73-1046, 73-1048 and 77-0303 the coloured one, 77-0278 did not fly PM. However, 77-0278 flew AM and went into the south-eastern HAS-area after landing but joined the Elephant Walk in the afternoon together with the two 401 Filo aircraft and 73-1053 with the special tail along with 73-1049 and 77-0279 from the north-eastern HAS-area.

Glad someone's paying attention! Thanks, corrected above.

[SquAdmin]

Gulfstream was 003.

[747woody]

Updates in bold

[Sjoerd]

A few notes/additions from my side;

W&R
Near gate (from Eurodemobbed)
(59-0306/2-306) T-37B >> serial+code cnfmd stil present
(10570/5-570) F-5A >> serial+code cnfmd stil present
(62-751) CF-104 (Spotting Mode have this as 7185/6-185, but that is reported b/u in the database) >> this is not a CF-104, as it's missing the specific lumps and bumps. It is presumed this is ex Bursa F-104G 62-12239, which is not w/o after a mid-air, but landed safely.

from MSF:

I am 100% sure the 239 from Bursa is persevered at Eskisehir now. On the pictures you can see it is in faded grey colors and is not repainted.
The CF-104 from Eskisehir (62-751) is probably the one at OF now (http://www.trabzon.gov.tr/of-ilcesi-sah ... ete-acildi). Google Earth: L/n Eskisehir. Nov17, F/n OF Feb18

26 June 1986 F-104G 8238/6-238 162filo THK written off pilot killed
26 June 1986 F-104G 62-12239/6-239 162filo THK incident pilot ok
F-104G 8238 code "6-238" flew a routine mission with 7 other Starfighters when South East of the island Imrali, in the Sea of Marmara, it collided with F-104G 62-12239 code "6-239". The pilot in "6-238" Hv. Plt. Ütgm. M. Kamil Akcali (26 years old) was sadly killed in this accident. Later some parts of the crashed aircraft "6-238" and the pilot's dead body were recovered. He was burried in his hometown Adana. Aircraft "6-239" could land safely and could be repaired.

(69-7478/1-7478) RF-4E >> serial cnfmd stil present
(21410/2-410) CT-33AN >> serial+code cnfmd stil present
(63946/3-946) F-100F >> serial incorrectly presented as "56-8946"

Base Ops (from Spotting Mode)
(41548/1-548) RT-33A >> read from my photo as 54-1548
(10987/1-10987) F-84G >> read from my photo as "48-0987"
(6933) AT-11 >> cnfmd wearing serial "64-6933"
(7234/1-7234) RF-84F >> read from my photo as "59-7234"
(55-2775/1-775) F-100D[/b] >> read from my photo as "55-5775"

[747woody]

This seems to think that 62-12239 is the one at Of!

https://www.916-starfighter.de/F-104_RN ... uadron.htm

This agrees and has both 7185 and 104751 at Eskisehir!

https://www.i-f-s.nl/preserved-f-104s/p ... in-turkey/

[Sjoerd]

This seems to think that 62-12239 is the one at Of!

https://www.916-starfighter.de/F-104_RN ... uadron.htm

This agrees and has both 7185 and 104751 at Eskisehir!

https://www.i-f-s.nl/preserved-f-104s/p ... in-turkey/

You will find a link in my previous message showing the F-104 at Of. You can see clearly that it is a CF-104 with the additional RWR at the nose and tail of the aircraft. So that rules our 239, which is a F-104G. And the one noted at Eskishehir definately was no CF-104 as it lacked the RWR. So its safe to say the grey one from Bursa already marked as 239 is the same grey 239 at Eskishehir and that one of the CF-104's from Eskishir moved to Of.

[747woody]

Can you confirm that the one at Eskisehir is marked 239?

[Sjoerd]

I haven't read it, but others did.

[K2G]

Can you confirm that the one at Eskisehir is marked 239?

I read it as 239 last weekend. 99,9% sure this is the one from Bursa, I have seen and read in 2011.

[747woody]

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