Roth KHR-26 Tag der offenen Tür; july 28th 2013

[leonard van T]

My German is not so good, but if I belive the is also the official end of KHR-26 at Roth
so maybe our last change to catch some Bolkows !

http://www.deutschesheer.de/portal/a/heer
go to "Aktuelles termine"

Leonard

[ehusmann]

Maybe it is just me, but I don't have a 'Aktuelles termine" link when I go to that website. I do have "Aktuelles" but that doesn't show anything about Roth. Would you perhaps have a direct link?

Erwin

[leonard van T]

Maybe it is just me, but I don't have a 'Aktuelles termine" link when I go to that website. I do have "Aktuelles" but that doesn't show anything about Roth. Would you perhaps have a direct link?

Erwin

on the righthand side of the page 2nd from the top you find the link (PDF) if you clik on the text

hope this helps

[ehusmann]

Got it now, thanks!

Erwin

[gortje]

Hi,

Is it possible to put here the link to this PDF??
So, everybody can find it directly.
Many thanks!!

Regards,

Roelof-Jan Gort
The Netherlands

[Stratofreighter]

Is it possible to put here the link to this PDF??
So, everybody can find it directly.
Many thanks!!

There ya go:
http://www.deutschesheer.de/resource/re ... 3.2013.pdf

28. Juli 2013
Tag der offenen Tür beim Kampfhubschrauberregiment 26 "Franken"
Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne, Roth

... plus some contact-details...

[kmarrie]

Hier finden Sie die Termine des Deutschen Heeres
Tag der offenen Tür beim Kampfhubschrauberregiment 26 "Franken"
Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne, Roth
Personalstabsoffizier
Tel.: 09171 / 83 – 2210
Fax: 09171 / 83 – 2064
E-Mail:
Kampfhubschrauberregiment 26
21. Juli 2013

Hope that this will help.

[mirage 69]

Just received an answer from the PRO from KHR-26.
It will be a TdoT but no flying display.

Grtz Rene

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[kmarrie]

I also recieved an email to my questions that i asked in german.
Afcource they answered my email also in German. Hopefully you all will understand and otherwise you can probably use google translator??
This is the answer from Roth Public Information Officer:
an unserem Tag der offenen Tür am 28.07.2013 werden natürlich mehrere Bo-105-Hubschrauber,
auch mit Sonderlackierungen, in einem Static Display zu sehen sein. Insgesamt werden wir unser
gesamtes Großgerät an Fahrzeugen (z.B. Tankfahrzeuge, Feuerlöschfahrzeuge usw.), aber auch
Simulatoren ausstellen. Es werden viele Aussteller aus unserer Region, Rüstungsfirmen,
verschiedene Verbände, unsere Flugsportgruppe mit ihren Ultralights und anderes zu sehen sein.
Das genaue Programm werden wir vermutlich ab Mai 2013 im Internet unter der bekannten Adresse
veröffentlichen.

Ich hoffe, dass ich Ihnen helfen konnte und freue mich auf ein Wiedersehen im Juli in Roth.


Hopefully this helps for everyone to make your disicion to go there?

Gr Ralph Blok

[ehusmann]

It was a long trip for a small show, but still more than I had expected. Still quite a bunch of Bolkows unread (at least by me), but 50 in total were visible (including a fake police one that is):
Static

B.105P		HFVAS100	8812
		KHR26		8606, 8649, 8663, 8728
		KHR36		8628
		nb		8785
CH-53G		HSG64		8454
NH.90TTH	nb		7903
Tiger UHT 	nb		7428
UH-1D		nb		7337
EC.135		Polizei		D-HBPF

Halle B

Bo.105		Pres		"D-DOKU"
Bo.105P		KHR26		8673, 8775, 8810
		Std		8667, 8710, 8746, 8758, 8759, 8797, 3x

The stored Bolkows were all read from papers on the nose.

Halle C

(right)
B.105P		nn		2x
(middle-right)
Bo.105P		nn		1x
(middle-middle)
Bo.105P		nn		1x
(middle-left)
Bo.105P		nn		8615, 5x
(left)
Bo.105P		nn		3x

One in the middle left row of 6 had the serial 8697 on the engine sand cover. However, the 8810 in halle B had 8650 on a similar engine cover, so I think these are swapped easily and I am not sure the one in this hall has the correct serial on it.

Halle 63

Bo.105P		Std		8602, 8653, 8669, 8676, 8686, 8696, 8720, 8722, 8790, 8808

These were all read from the papers on the nose or behind the cockpit window.

Halle E

Bo.105P		i/a?		8632, 8677, 8705, 8777, 2x

These might still be operational as well, in that case they might have been in maintenance. One of the unknown ones (the one most right) had a construction number ending in 'xx30'.

Other

Bo.105P		Pres		8792
		In crane	1x

Any additions are welcome of course.

Erwin

[Shamu245]

Erwin et al,

Our Log from this excellent show, we had 3 attempts at reading the Bo105's in the various halle's, especiallly Halle C as the light improved inside as the sun moved round and the reflection on the windows was reduced.

BB+130 Canadair CL13A pr on Airfield
84+54 CH 53 HSG64 Static(unit from Crew Badges)
74+28 Tiger KHR36 Static (unit from Crew Badges)
73+37 UH-1 THR30 Static
79+03 NH 90 HSG64 Static (unit from Crew Badges)
87+49 Bo 105 Static on trailer Wrk No 6149
87+92 Bo 105 Bee Colours Preserved Nr Flightline
86+06 Bo 105 Static
87+85 Bo 105 Static
86+28 Bo 105 Spcl c/s Static
88+12 Bo 105 Spcl c/s Static
86+49 Bo 105 Spcl c/s Static
87+28 Bo 105 Spcl c/s Static
86+22 Bo 105 Halle E Maintenance
86+32 Bo 105 Halle E Maintenance
86+38 Bo 105 Halle E Maintenance
87+05 Bo 105 Halle E Maintenance
87+72 Bo 105 Halle E Maintenance
88+11 Bo 105 Halle E Maintenance
86+02 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
86+53 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
86+69 Bo 105 KHR26 Halle 63 stored
86+76 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
86+86 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
86+96 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
87+20 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
87+22 Bo 105 KHR26 Halle 63 stored
87+90 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
88+08 Bo 105 Halle 63 stored
86+(07) Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+11 Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+13 Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+(15) Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+68 Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+85 Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+88 Bo 105 Halle C Active
87+19 Bo 105 Halle C Active
87+20 Bo 105 Halle C Active
87+26 Bo 105 Halle C Active
8_+__ Bo 105 Halle C Active
8_+__ Bo 105 Halle C Active
8_+__ Bo 105 Halle C Active
86+(4)4 Bo 105 Halle B ( the paper with the serial on was bent over & hard to read)
86+67 Bo 105 Halle B
86+73 Bo 105 Halle B
87+10 Bo 105 Halle B
87+48 Bo 105 Halle B
87+58 Bo 105 Halle B
87+59 Bo 105 Halle B
87+75 Bo 105 Halle B
87+97 Bo 105 Halle B
88+10 Bo 105 Halle B
8_+__ Bo 105 Halle B
8_+__ Bo 105 Halle B Wfu Stripped

DAVEM, Ady, Alec, Tony

[Fred Jansen]

In Halle E (maintenance) were 6 B-105's
From left to right 8.+.., (87+05) from c/n 6105, 86+.., 87+72, 86+32, 86+30
I was allowed to photopgraph the last one. and only that one!
anyone for nr 1 and 3 as the serials as previous reported don't match
Erwin 87+77 is 87+72 I think
86+77 also reported as 86+22

MTIA Fred Jansen

[ehusmann]

The two 77's in Halle E might indeed be incorrect in my list. In fact, I already had a questionmark with the 8677. Both were very hard to read, but seemed to have a flat top, which looked like that of a 7, not of a 2.
By the way, if it was the 8622, then that one is probably no longer in use, it was reported wfu in April 2013. So was that hangar indeed a maintenance hangar....?
And the 8630, was that the one on the right? That one I read as having a constructionnumber ending in '30'.

@Shamu: you are missing one Bo on the static: 8663.

Erwin

[Fred Jansen]

on to the next halle nr 63 all read from paper on aircraft
back row: 86+53, 86+76, 86+69, 87+22
middle row: 86+02, (87+20 not read by me) 86+96
front row: 87+90, 86+86, 88+08

Halle C: none of these were read by me but copied from two British guys (thanks)
left row: 86+88, 87+70, 87+19
middle row: 8.+.1, 86+66, 86+97, 87+26, 86+15, 86+68
single one: 86+11
right row: 86+65 mispole for 86+85? (86+65 is preserved),86+13

Shamu mentioned 87+20 in this hall but 87+20 was also noted in halle 63. I think this one is 87+70
also mentioned is 86+(07) this one should be 86+97 wich was confirmed by some German spotters.

Fred

[Custard Gannet]

This is my interpretation of the initial extensive log, on return to UK
Halle E
> 86+22..ok
> 86+32..ok
> 86+38 »» 86+30 c/n 6030
> 87+05..ok
> 87+72..ok
> 88+11»» in bay 1 (far left) number scrubbed, not read by me, however the number underneath was consistent with a 11.

Halle 63
> 86+02
> 86+53
> 86+69
> 86+76
> 86+86
> 86+96
> 87+20
> 87+22
> 87+90
> 88+08. »»»» All Ok

> Halle C
> 86+07»» this was the furthest one of the line of 6 !! Read by me as 86+?7
> 86+11..ok
> 86+13..ok
> 86+(15)..ok
> 86+68..ok »» c/n6068
> 86+85 !!!!!
> 86+88..ok
> 87+19..ok »» read from Bag !
> 87+20 !!!!!
> 87+26..ok
> 8?+??..
> 8?+??..
> 8?+??..
>
> I have additionally
> 86+65»» Mispole for 86+85 ?? »»» 86+65 is a instructional frame @ neubiberg !!!
> 86+66»» This is a KHR26 machine
> 86+97»»
> 87+70»» mispole for 87+20 ?? »»»
> 87+20 is a KHR26 machine , but this was noted in Halle 63

> Halle B
> 86+(4)4..?
> 86+67..ok
> 86+73..ok
> 87+10..ok
> 87+48»» number given by maint staff
> 87+58..ok
> 87+59..ok
> 87+75..ok
> 87+97..ok
> 88+10..ok
> 8?+??
> 8?+??

> Differences are
> 87+46»» number given by maint staff
> 86+14»» number given by maint staff
>
> 80+47 is a candidate for the cab

Regards
CG

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