ehusmann wrote:Contact was lost at 15.15 Dutch time, not 16.15, that makes it only three hours.
Erwin
Burrows family from Biloela, who lost family in missing flight MH370, mourning again after Malaysia Airlines MH17 shot down
Even more film footage at the "Daily Wail":frank kramer wrote:Footage released by Ukrainian authorities reported to be a Buk missile system being transported on a low-loader yesterday with two missiles missing:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/tv/nieuws/buite ... en___.html
Also:Suspicious: Ukrainian spies reportedly filmed the launcher used in the attack being smuggled to Russia - with two missiles missing
Ukrainian separatists had initially claimed they had shot down another Ukrainian Airforce AN-26, the comments were and references to them are currently being deleted across the Internet.
Separatists of the self pronounced Republic of Donetsk had also shown off with ground to air missiles capable to down airliners in the last couple of days, these videos and messages are currently being deleted as well.
See below the images of Igor Girkin's (Strelkov's) website http://vk.com/strelkov_info retrieved at 15:22Z and at 23:00Z on Jul 17th 2014.
Igor Girkin is commander of the Donbass People's Milita. Igor Girkin wrote at 17:37 MSK as first sentence: "Message from the Militia: In the area Snizhne just knocked down an AN-26 lying somewhere in the mine 'Progress'" - this sentence later disappeared and is not present anymore on the current web page, the sentence however is still verifyable from Internet caches.
As the UN security council called for a "full, thorough independent international investigation" into the downing of the plane, concern that a cover-up was under way was fuelled by a standoff
at part of the crash site between observers from the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) and rebel gunmen,
which ended with a warning shot being fired.
But hopes are not high.
The OSCE was trying to gain access to one part of the large crash site but the commander of a rebel unit,
known as Commander Glum,
blocked them.
After the warning shot, the OSCE convoy departed.
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