Velika Gorica, 24-07-2014

[r.e.hendriks]

Hi all,

On this day I visited Velika Gorica noted the following from outside the fence.
Here is a log. Additions and corrections always welcome!

Parked at ramp in front of hangar:
251 Mi-8MTV-1 ETH / 93 zd Zadar Croatian AF (under maintenance)
274 Mi-8T ETH / 93 zd Zadar Croatian AF (under maintenance)

Under maintenance inside hangar:
2x Mi-8 ETH / 93 zd Zadar Croatian AF

Stored at the main ramp:
9A-DAB Ce-T210 nn Croatian AF
9A-ISC Do.28D-2 nn Croatian AF
002 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF
003 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF
004 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF
005 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF reg. 9A-DJL overpainted
006 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF under shed
009 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF reg. 9A-DCH overpainted
010 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF
011 UTVA-75 nn Croatian AF

Dumped Northside of facility:
006 An-2T nn Croatian AF white/red c/s “DDR-SKA”
013 An-2R nn Croatian AF white/blue c/s
014 An-2R nn Croatian AF white/red c/s
9A-BMA An-2R nn Croatian AF camo c/s as “YU-BMA”
9A-BOF An-2R nn Croatian AF white/orange c/s
9A-BOG An-2TP nn Croatian AF white c/s upside down
114 MiG-21bis nn Croatian AF unmarked
24205/205 J-21 nn Yugoslav AF with tail of 24275
51131/131 UTVA-66 nn Yugoslav AF no tail
…. Ce-A188B nn …. unmarked
…. UTVA-75 nn …. unmarked

Dumped Southside of facility:
9A-BKA An-2R nn Croatian AF yellow c/s
H-101 Mi-8T nn Croatian AF camo c/s no tail unmrkd
H-103 Mi-8T nn Croatian AF red/white c/s

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As you can see I miss two serials.

On this picture you see the tail and cockpit of the Cessna A188B, behind the UTVA-66 with code 131.


And here you see the UTVA-75 which I couldn't identify.



If you can help me with this, please let me know.

Best regards Rob.

[jp 74]

Hi Rob,

I am close to Pula ans i've seen 2 mig 21 flying and 1 MI 8 in total, did you see some from Zagreb Pleso?
Planning to go to Pula next week maybe there is something flying.

Grtz Jeroen

[r.e.hendriks]

Hi Rob,

I am close to Pula ans i've seen 2 mig 21 flying and 1 MI 8 in total, did you see some from Zagreb Pleso?
Planning to go to Pula next week maybe there is something flying.

Grtz Jeroen

Hi Jeroen,

For military activity you won't have to go to Pula, as the military base is closed there.
I don't know was day you saw the MiG's and Mi-8. On the 24th three MiG-21's flew and I saw at least one Mi-8 flying. But another one was active that day.
So I guess I can't help you....

Best regards Rob.


PS. Anyone for the two missing aircraft at Velika Gorica??

[patrick dirksen]

Hi Rob,

Can't help you with the missing aircraft unfortunately. But nice log! No poblems with law enforcement? And did you do a "hit and run" or spend some time there?

[r.e.hendriks]

Hi Rob,

Can't help you with the missing aircraft unfortunately. But nice log! No poblems with law enforcement? And did you do a "hit and run" or spend some time there?

No problems at all....

But as I was with my wife and kids, we just made a hit and run. Actually two hit and runs
We drove along the fence at 10 km/h and my wife took pictures of every aircraft she saw.
On the way back we did the same, only I took the pictures and stopped shortly at various places.

All aircraft are read from the pictures.

Best regards, Rob.

[jp 74]

Hi Rob,

I am close to Pula ans i've seen 2 mig 21 flying and 1 MI 8 in total, did you see some from Zagreb Pleso?
Planning to go to Pula next week maybe there is something flying.

Grtz Jeroen

Hi Jeroen,

For military activity you won't have to go to Pula, as the military base is closed there.
I don't know was day you saw the MiG's and Mi-8. On the 24th three MiG-21's flew and I saw at least one Mi-8 flying. But another one was active that day.
So I guess I can't help you....

Best regards Rob.


PS. Anyone for the two missing aircraft at Velika Gorica??

Hi Rob,

I've seen a Mig 21 on wednesday(23 th) also the Mi8 in the evening around 19:30,and on friday (25th) a 21 was going over our appartment witch is 3miles down the 06 runway, in a take off/overshoot fasion so from east to west.
Is it worth a 3 hr drive to Pleso?
Have a nice holiday.
Grtz Jeroen

[r.e.hendriks]

Well Jeroen, I can't help you with the serials of the MiG's and Mi-8.
On a normal day you have a 50% chance to see 1 or 2 MiG-21s.
So, make your decision....

Best regards Rob.

[AndyMarden]

Rob,
The Cessna 188 is YU-BIE
The UTVA 75 must surely be 001, as all the others are accounted for (you saw 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 009, 010, 011; 007 is preserved at Zadar; 008 is at Cakovec as 9A-DIH.
How did you identity MiG-21bis 114 please?
Regarding law enforcement, I have never had any problems in the four times I have been there. I usually just park the car out of sight and walk all the way around the perimeter fence...
Andy

[Ivan_K]

Hi Jeroen,

I live in Zagreb, and I can tell you that you have better chance to catch Mig's at ZAG (Pleso) than at PUY (Pula) airport.
Mig pilots fly day after day (except weekends), but bad thing is that the visitors terrace at ZAG airport is closed so you'll have to go to some place around airport. There is few good points for taking pictures, some of them are accessable by car and some are foot only accessable. Also ther's few very good positions on the airports fence (on opposite side compared to the visitors terrace position) but airport security is not very happy with the people hanging on the fence.
Pula is seasonal airport so now PUY is good place for taking photos of European and some of Russian (mostly Airbus and Boeing planes) charter companys especialy at saturdays. And yes, there is a possibility of catching Mig's at PUY but it is similar to Forest Gumps story of life and a box of chocolates: "You never know what you're gonna get"...

[jp 74]

Hi Jeroen,

I live in Zagreb, and I can tell you that you have better chance to catch Mig's at ZAG (Pleso) than at PUY (Pula) airport.
Mig pilots fly day after day (except weekends), but bad thing is that the visitors terrace at ZAG airport is closed so you'll have to go to some place around airport. There is few good points for taking pictures, some of them are accessable by car and some are foot only accessable. Also ther's few very good positions on the airports fence (on opposite side compared to the visitors terrace position) but airport security is not very happy with the people hanging on the fence.
Pula is seasonal airport so now PUY is good place for taking photos of European and some of Russian (mostly Airbus and Boeing planes) charter companys especialy at saturdays. And yes, there is a possibility of catching Mig's at PUY but it is similar to Forest Gumps story of life and a box of chocolates: "You never know what you're gonna get"...

Thanks Ivan, ill give it a try next week!

[r.e.hendriks]

Rob,
The Cessna 188 is YU-BIE
The UTVA 75 must surely be 001, as all the others are accounted for (you saw 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 009, 010, 011; 007 is preserved at Zadar; 008 is at Cakovec as 9A-DIH.
How did you identity MiG-21bis 114 please?
Regarding law enforcement, I have never had any problems in the four times I have been there. I usually just park the car out of sight and walk all the way around the perimeter fence...
Andy

Thanks Andy.

But wasn't the 001 suppost to be in a white color scheme just like the others?
When it was preserved at Pleso a few years ago it had that same white c/s.
I think this may be a former Bosnian UTVA.

Regards Rob