Vervanging F70 PH-KBX

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Vervanging F70 PH-KBX

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The Dutch Government will change plane in 2017.
See: http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2387 ... jet__.html

And what will be next? Citation-X, Gulfstream-V, Airbus-318 or 737-BBJ?

I go for the 737-BBJ with huge discount as gift from the White House to compensate the overpriced and under performing JSF... :mrgreen:
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I would give the Embraer Lineage the benefit of the doubt. With the KLM now fully replacing the Fokkers with Embraers, a Lineage would be the best to integrate pilots and maintenance with KLM as is happening now as well.

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Thats also possible with a 737BBJ....
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And also with a Triple Seven.... yet not really an option. My guess is that anything significantly larger than a Lineage is just too much plane, too much cost and too much political problems. Smaller might be better, but then it is no longer an option to integrate operations with KLM. Hence: my money is on the Lineage.

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Ik ben bang dat er alleen zal worden gekeken naar de vloot van KLC, daar Willy dan current kan blijven op het regeringsvliegtuig tijdens de dagdelen dat hij nog bij KLC kan werken.
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aviodromefriend wrote:Ik ben bang dat er alleen zal worden gekeken naar de vloot van KLC, daar Willy dan current kan blijven op het regeringsvliegtuig tijdens de dagdelen dat hij nog bij KLC kan werken.
Okay, het is RTL-Nieuws, maar in grote lijnen...
http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenla ... -vliegtuig
Het is ook nog niet duidelijk of koning Willem-Alexander, die de KBX geregeld vloog, zich laat omscholen tot piloot op het toekomstige regeringsvliegtuig.
De koning is opgeleid op de Fokker 70.
Voor de omschakeling naar een ander type staat minstens anderhalve maand fulltime training en het is de vraag of de koning die tijd beschikbaar heeft.
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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Er staan nog enkele van de eerst gebouwde B788's te koop voor een zeer zacht prijsje, de zgn. terrible teens. (early built, overweight).
Dan kan er ook meteen intercontinentaal worden gevlogen.
Korea heeft net een B788 VIP (L/N 11)afgenomen voor regeringsdoeleinden.
De KLM B789 simulator zou dan kunnen worden gebruikt voor de typequalificatie.
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ehusmann wrote:And also with a Triple Seven.... yet not really an option. My guess is that anything significantly larger than a Lineage is just too much plane, too much cost and too much political problems. Smaller might be better, but then it is no longer an option to integrate operations with KLM. Hence: my money is on the Lineage.

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Well, regarding fleet-commonality: I just understood that the MP MD-11s will not go to the scrapper. One will be re-configured into a VIP version for use by the royal family and government and two other MD-11s will become air-tankers to replace the current KDC-10s!
The first one mentioned (PH-MCS) is to be painted bright orange and should be painted ahead of the re-configuration asap and do a fly-by over Dordrecht, when the royal family will visit that city on this year's Kingsday, on 27 April! The painting will be done by KLM in hangar 14. The aircraft is currently parked in MP colours on the platform where hangar 9 used to be.

Great news!

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Volgens mij zijn de Terible Teens verkocht. Ben alleen ff kwijt aan welke toko.

@Kees: wrong date to post this ;)
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Als mijn geheugen me niet in de steek laat gaan ze naar LAN, Ethiopian en/of Kenya AW. In elk geval lijken ze nu allemaal een plekje gevonden te hebben. Maar hoe dan ook, zelfs als er een 'voor weinig' te verkrijgen zou zijn, wil ik niet de PM zijn die zo'n grote kist in de tweede kamer moet gaan verdedigen. De oppositie maakt gehakt van zo'n beslissing.

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Een oude Dakota is voldoende voor dat gespuis :-)!

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Optimus wrote:
ehusmann wrote:And also with a Triple Seven.... yet not really an option. My guess is that anything significantly larger than a Lineage is just too much plane, too much cost and too much political problems. Smaller might be better, but then it is no longer an option to integrate operations with KLM. Hence: my money is on the Lineage.

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Well, regarding fleet-commonality: I just understood that the MP MD-11s will not go to the scrapper. One will be re-configured into a VIP version for use by the royal family and government and two other MD-11s will become air-tankers to replace the current KDC-10s!
The first one mentioned (PH-MCS) is to be painted bright orange and should be painted ahead of the re-configuration asap and do a fly-by over Dordrecht, when the royal family will visit that city on this year's Kingsday, on 27 April! The painting will be done by KLM in hangar 14. The aircraft is currently parked in MP colours on the platform where hangar 9 used to be.

Great news!

Kees
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Optimus wrote:
ehusmann wrote:And also with a Triple Seven.... yet not really an option. My guess is that anything significantly larger than a Lineage is just too much plane, too much cost and too much political problems. Smaller might be better, but then it is no longer an option to integrate operations with KLM. Hence: my money is on the Lineage.

Erwin
Well, regarding fleet-commonality: I just understood that the MP MD-11s will not go to the scrapper. One will be re-configured into a VIP version for use by the royal family and government and two other MD-11s will become air-tankers to replace the current KDC-10s!
The first one mentioned (PH-MCS) is to be painted bright orange and should be painted ahead of the re-configuration asap and do a fly-by over Dordrecht, when the royal family will visit that city on this year's Kingsday, on 27 April! The painting will be done by KLM in hangar 14. The aircraft is currently parked in MP colours on the platform where hangar 9 used to be.

Great news!

Kees
En wat voor dag is het vandaag? :wink:
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YS11 wrote:
Optimus wrote:
ehusmann wrote:And also with a Triple Seven.... yet not really an option. My guess is that anything significantly larger than a Lineage is just too much plane, too much cost and too much political problems. Smaller might be better, but then it is no longer an option to integrate operations with KLM. Hence: my money is on the Lineage.

Erwin
Well, regarding fleet-commonality: I just understood that the MP MD-11s will not go to the scrapper. One will be re-configured into a VIP version for use by the royal family and government and two other MD-11s will become air-tankers to replace the current KDC-10s!
The first one mentioned (PH-MCS) is to be painted bright orange and should be painted ahead of the re-configuration asap and do a fly-by over Dordrecht, when the royal family will visit that city on this year's Kingsday, on 27 April! The painting will be done by KLM in hangar 14. The aircraft is currently parked in MP colours on the platform where hangar 9 used to be.

Great news!

Kees
En wat voor dag is het vandaag? :wink:
Woensdag :twisted:
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