U2 over Syria

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U2 over Syria

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Yesterday I saw an interesting topic on CNN about the U2. The USAF is flying this old lady over Syria to monitor IS. Remarkable that they are still using these old aircraft operationally. The airframes must be 50-60 years old. I still get more and more respect for what the engineers developped in the late fifties and early sixties!

Here is a link to the article with a nice video too:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/25/middl ... index.html
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Indeed, without all the computers of today, just a slide rule and a drawning table. Same with the early space program.
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Wildpicture wrote:Yesterday I saw an interesting topic on CNN about the U2. The USAF is flying this old lady over Syria to monitor IS. Remarkable that they are still using these old aircraft operationally. The airframes must be 50-60 years old. I still get more and more respect for what the engineers developped in the late fifties and early sixties!

Here is a link to the article with a nice video too:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/25/middl ... index.html
The U-2S is not that old and certainly not 50-60 years old. The current U-2S is based on the U-2R, a newly designed version of the Dragon Lady that was 40% lager than the original U-2A. The U-2R made its first flight in 1967 but trickled into Air Force service. The Air Force kept receiving new U-2R's and TR-1s during the 1980s, with the last aircraft being delivered in 1989. In 1994, all remaining U-2R aircraft were upgraded to U-2S standard, with new GE F118-101 engines. This was followed by the Reconnaissance Avionics Maintainability Program (RAMP) under which all U-2S aircraft received a fully modern digital cockpit, complete with three large, full-colour multifunctional displays as well as other system improvements such as the AE Systems AN/ALQ-221 advanced defensive system.

The U-2S is anything but old. According to Lockheed Martin, the average aircraft is only at 20% of its projected air frame life and has over 30 years left on the air frame alone. The retirement of the U-2S has been proposed and postponed over well over a decade now, although eventually the U-2S will be replaced with the ugpraded RQ-4B. The only issue is that the Air Force will have to spend some serious money on making the RQ-4B even on par with the current U-2S. While the U-2S may be more expensive to operate, it can fly higher, carry a greater payload and carry quite a number of sensors and cameras not available for the RQ-4B today. The only limitation being that the U-2S is currently limited to a max of 12-14 hours of flying time, solely due to pilot fatigue. The RQ-4B routinely flies missions well over 30 hours and can reach any location from any base witin the USA itself.
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Verhaaltjes over de SR-71 Blackbird. Ze blijven leuk... :wink:

http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today ... 53373/?all
Walter and I had just completed the 100 hours required to attain Mission Ready status in the jet.

Ripping across the Arizona deserts 80,000 feet below us, I could already see the coast of California.

I was beginning to feel a bit sorry for Walter in the back seat.

There he was, with no really good view of the incredible sights before us, tasked with monitoring four different radios.

The predominant radio chatter was from Los Angeles Center, controlling daily traffic in their sector.

While they had us on their scope (albeit briefly),
we were in uncontrolled airspace and
normally would not talk to them unless we needed to descend into their airspace.

We listened as the shaky voice of a lone Cessna pilot asked Center for a readout of his ground speed.

Center replied: “November Charlie 175, I’m showing you at 90 knots on the ground.”

Now the thing to understand about Center controllers was
that whether they were talking to a rookie pilot in a Cessna or to Air Force One,
they always spoke in the exact same, calm, deep, professional,
tone that made one feel important. :!:

I referred to it as the “Houston Center voice.” :wink:

Conversely, over the years, pilots always wanted to ensure that, when transmitting,
they sounded like Chuck Yeager,
or at least like John Wayne. :roll:
Better to die than sound bad on the radios.

Just moments after the Cessna’s inquiry, a Twin Beech piped up on frequency, in a rather superior tone,
asking for his ground speed.

“I have you at 125 knots of ground speed.”

Boy, I thought, the Beechcraft really must think he is dazzling his Cessna brethren. :roll:

Then out of the blue, a Navy F/A-18 pilot out of Naval Air Station Lemoore came up on frequency.

You knew right away it was a Navy jock because he sounded very cool on the radios. :twisted:

“Center, Dusty 52 ground speed check.”
Before Center could reply, I’m thinking to myself, “Hey, Dusty 52 has a ground speed indicator in that million-dollar cockpit, so why is he asking Center for a readout?”

Then I got it.

Ol’ Dusty here is making sure that every bug smasher from Mount Whitney to the Mojave knows what true speed is.

He’s the fastest dude in the valley today,
and he just wants everyone to know how much fun he is having in his new Hornet. :roll:

And the reply, always with that same calm voice,
with more distinct alliteration than emotion:
“Dusty 52, Center, we have you at 620 on the ground.”

And I thought to myself: Is this a ripe situation, or what?

As my hand instinctively reached for the mic button, I had to remind myself that Walt :!: was in control of the radios.

Still, I thought, it must be done. That Hornet must die, and die now. :evil:

Then I heard it.
The click of the mic button from the back seat.
That was the very moment that I knew Walter and I had become a crew. :worship:

Very professionally, Walter spoke:
“Los Angeles Center, Aspen 20, can you give us a ground speed check?”

There was no hesitation: “Aspen 20, I show you at 1,842 knots, across the ground.”

I think it was the “42 knots” that I liked the best,
so accurate and proud was Center to deliver that information without hesitation,
and you just knew he was smiling.

Walt keyed the mic once again to say,
in his most fighter-pilot-like voice: :mrgreen:
“Ah, Center, much thanks, we’re showing closer to nineteen hundred on the money.”

For a moment, Walter was a god.

And we finally heard a little crack in the armor of the Houston Center voice, :mrgreen:
when L.A. came back with
“Roger that Aspen. Your equipment is probably more accurate than ours.
You boys have a good one.”

It all had lasted for just moments,
but in that short, memorable sprint across the southwest, the Navy had been flamed, :twisted:
all mortal airplanes on frequency were forced to bow before the King of Speed,
and more importantly, Walter and I had crossed the threshold of being a crew.

A fine day’s work. We never heard another transmission on that frequency all the way to the coast. :mrgreen:
http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today ... 53373/?all
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