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Sukhoi22
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W&R Portugal

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Hello,
Begin of july I was in Portugal for some W&R:

Sintra Museum 2-7-22
inside: (first hall)
JU-52 6304 Pres PAF
F-86F "5320" (5338) Pres PAF
F-84G "5131" (5187) Pres PAF
TIGER MOTH 111 (CS-AAA) Pres PAF
Chipmunck MK.20 1309 (CS-AZR) Pres PAF
UH-19D "9101" (MM80119/57-5979) Pres It.AF
SPITFIRE HF.IX ZL255 (MR-Z/5563) Pres SAAF
AT-11 2504 Pres PAF
C-47A "CS-TDE" (43-15037/4X-AOC) CIVIL (USAAF)
TA-7P 15550 Pres PAF
N.2502A "6403" (6405) Pres PAF
Granau SG-38 PE-1 Pres PAF
G-91R/3 5445 (75.000hrs) Pres PAF
DH.89A 2307 PAF
AVRO 631 (501) Pres PAF
B-737 (9T-MSS) nose ZaireAF

Second hall:
L-21B 3218 (52-6237) PAF
Chipmunck 1345 (G-OACP) PAF (CIVIL)
FTB337G 13701 PAF
DO-27(A-4) (3487) white c/s nm PAF
ALW-3 NM section Pres PAF
ALW-3 (1)9384 PAF
ALW-2 9217 (76+35) PAF (GArmy)
SA-330 19512 (751sqn mks) PAF
FA-20DC 17103 (8103) PAF
T-6J 1737 (BF+077/52-8600) PAF (GAF)
MH.1521C 3304 (CS-AQJ) PAF (CIVIL)
Auster D5 (3548)(CS-AMX) PAF (CIVIL)
DO-27(A-3) "3357" (3358/55+85) PAF (GAF)
G-91(R/4) "5407" (5438/BR+375) PAF (GAF)
T-37C 2414 (62-5939) PAF
T-38A 2605 (62-5930) PAF
ALPHAJET 15224 (40+73) PAF (GAF)
T-33A 1923 (57-0540) Pres PAF

T-37C 2424 (62-5949) Pres acces road PAF

Sintra Museum outside:
C-212 16508
ALPHAJET 15209 (40+32)(AsasPortugal) PAF
P-3P 14806 PAF
SP-2E 4711 (MLD 096/134723) Pres PAF (RNeth.navy)

T-37C "0"2412 (62-5937) Alverca school PAF
PA-31 Nevajo (cn. 31-7305123/N74972) Pres Alverca town
T-37C 2411 (62-5936) Pres OGMA gate PAF
C-54A 6606 Stored on airfield PAF
T-38A (2612/61-0903) nm Pres on pole roundabout PAF
A-7P (1)5537 Pres Alcochete PAF

4-7-22 Alverca museum inside:
T-37C 2420 (62-5945) PAF
L-21B 3212 (52-6234) PAF
Fairy 3D 17 (replica)
Widgeon G44 129 (cn.1251) PAF
Chipmunck MK.20 1376 (CS-DAR) PAF (CIVIL)
FTB337G 13709 PAF
Harvard III 1517 (7430) PAF (ZAF)
Auster D5 3564 PAF
Glider Portugal (replica)
TIGER MOTH "144"(CS-AEL) CIVIL
G-91(R/3) 5441 (30+11) PAF (GAF)
ALW-2 9216 (76+33) PAF (GArmy)
ALW-3 (9258) cn.1116 PAF
Museum outside:
A-7P 5508 (153219) PAF (USNavy)
F-86F 5319 (52-5262) PAF
T-38A 2601 (61-0843) PAF

Lissabon Collegio Militar:
ALPHAJET 15237 (41+08) PAF (GAF)
G-91(R/3) (32+77) nm GAF

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9T-MSS is a B707
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Thanks for the log!
Auster D5 (3548)(CS-AMX) PAF (CIVIL)
This one has been found to be a purely civil example (unfortunately), with c/n OGMA-81, so not former 3548.
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Sukhoi22 wrote: 09 Jul 2022, 11:58 ALW-3 NM section Pres PAF
I checked the c/n plate and says M-514.
According to the site rotorspot.nl it should be 1514 ex KLu A-514.
SNCA Sud-Est 3160 Alouette III 1514 A-514(PH), SE-JCP, N155RA, 'M-514(CS)' prs
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I have that Alouette as well like that, but I have my doubts about it. The first time I saw it was in 2002 in Alverca. And even though it was out of service from the KLu in 1996, it is listed in the FAA database as N155RA, deregistered in 2007. So in 2002 it was probably still active in the US.
I think it is an instructional frame only, no relations to a real airframe.
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ehusmann wrote: 25 Sep 2022, 11:22 I have that Alouette as well like that, but I have my doubts about it. The first time I saw it was in 2002 in Alverca. And even though it was out of service from the KLu in 1996, it is listed in the FAA database as N155RA, deregistered in 2007. So in 2002 it was probably still active in the US.
I think it is an instructional frame only, no relations to a real airframe.
The museum confirmed it to me (in 2009) as ex A-550
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Some extra’s at Sintra and seen Saturday 24-09:
15202 AlphaJet preserved at the Eastside of the field
10202 L-23 preserved behind the Eastern gate, but not visible from outside.
2604 T-38A preserved at the Eastern gate and visible from outside.
6157 C-47A stored at the Eastern site of the field without wings
16524 C212 stored near the C-47
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