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Rockville wrote:All rescued as helicopter ditches
All 18 people onboard a helicopter which ditched in the North Sea have survived and have been rescued from two liferafts, say coastguard.
The Super Puma came down near a platform in the ETAP field 125 miles east of Aberdeen. The alarm was raised at about 1840 GMT.
British military spokesman James Lyne, from the RAF base at Kinloss, told the BBC the helicopter would have been equipped with life jackets, which carry electronic transmitters.
Story from BBC NEWS:
Published: 2009/02/18 20:54:02 GMT
Those lifejackets are standard issue to the offshore personnel, they all get these lifejackets on check in together with their survivalsuit.Rockville wrote:All rescued as helicopter ditches
British military spokesman James Lyne, from the RAF base at Kinloss, told the BBC the helicopter would have been equipped with life jackets, which carry electronic transmitters.
Story from BBC NEWS:
Published: 2009/02/18 20:54:02 GMT
Our dutch professor of safety van Vollenhoven has a quite different opinion about these "good floatation device". (see G-JSAR).Pete wrote:fortunately Eurocopter has equipped the puma family with a good floatation device and liferafts, this in combination with highly qualified offshore pilots contributes to a happy end to these stories.
And what exactly was wrong with the flotation device on G-JSAR? It did what it was designed to do and and kept the aircraft upright and afloat. So much so that the aircraft drifted for several hours before ending up on Texel beach still the correct way up. That to me means it worked fine and as advertised by the manufacturer. It also allowed for the crew and passengers to leave the aircraft without injury.Our dutch professor of safety van Vollenhoven has a quite different opinion about these "good floatation device". (see G-JSAR).
According to an initial report, not all devices had inflated. Actually this was blamed in that report to be the reason why that airframe was damaged too much for repair. Besides, that could also clearly be seen at regional TV footage about G-JSAR being stranded.ABZSpotter wrote:And what exactly was wrong with the flotation device on G-JSAR?
The mentioned report: read here .aviodromefriend wrote: According to an initial report, not all devices had inflated.
is incorrect as they are not automatic, i.e. they do not come out automatically on landing on water. They must be deployed using one of three methods:The helicopter was equipped with two automatic inflatable life rafts
I think there is some misunderstanding here as to what are floatation devices for the aircraft and what are life-rafts for the passengers and crew.this was blamed in that report to be the reason why that airframe was damaged too much for repair
Jack wrote:The aircraft involved in this incident is Eurocopter EC225 LP c/n 2690 G-REDU.
The 2008-built EC225 LP Super Puma G-REDU was operated by Bond Offshore Helicopters Ltd., Aberdeen.
The G-REDU was registered as chartered to Bond Offshore Helicopters Ltd., Aberdeen, on 23 May 2008.
It is clear the helicopter has overturned after a relative long period of time it had been afloat in upright position as could be seen on coastguard footage after the crash. The upright periode was long enough to disembark the helicopter in safety. ( the floatation device did work fine. ) It is built to last for a small periode of time only to allow safe escape of the helicopter. It is not build to sail the helicopter to a safe harbour 125 miles from the crashsite. Regardless of what people might say about the floatation device of the G-JSAR ( that managed to stay afloat in an upright position for about 24 hours beforeit washed on texel shore.) i say this is the second example of a puma/cougar/ec 225 perfect floatation device.Jack wrote:Some pictures of the helicopter after the incident. In this BBC news item is shown how the crash happened:
http://news.bbc.co.uk:80/2/hi/uk_news/s ... 901124.stm
The aircraft involved in this incident is Eurocopter EC225 LP c/n 2690 G-REDU.
The 2008-built EC225 LP Super Puma G-REDU was operated by Bond Offshore Helicopters Ltd., Aberdeen.
The G-REDU was registered as chartered to Bond Offshore Helicopters Ltd., Aberdeen, on 23 May 2008.
The local paper in Aberdeen has quotes from one of the passengers saying that he thought it was a slightly heavier than normal landing and didn't think much more about it until he saw water coming in to the cabin. That makes it sound that all was normal and that the landing was not really anything unusual as far as the passengers were initially concerned. With the weather as it was, the aircraft would not have been that high where it was close to the platform, about 300ft amsl (100m), so not a good height to start an autorotation. Had it been an autorotation, it would have landed on the water quite heavily I would suggest and that does not appear to be the case from reports so far. However, why the tail came off is still a bit of a mystery.the footage of the BBC shows in my honest opinion a straight in autorotation which is common practice in such an event. It says nothing about the cause of the ditch
ABZSpotter wrote:Hi Pete
The local paper in Aberdeen has quotes from one of the passengers saying that he thought it was a slightly heavier than normal landing and didn't think much more about it until he saw water coming in to the cabin. That makes it sound that all was normal and that the landing was not really anything unusual as far as the passengers were initially concerned. With the weather as it was, the aircraft would not have been that high where it was close to the platform, about 300ft amsl (100m), so not a good height to start an autorotation. Had it been an autorotation, it would have landed on the water quite heavily I would suggest and that does not appear to be the case from reports so far. However, why the tail came off is still a bit of a mystery.
Steve
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