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Antoine wrote: ↑10 Sep 2022, 10:25
The spottersday is a total rip-off.
Almost none of the foreign visitors fly during the day, only the local Belgian stuff.
When you organize an event especially for spotters, you must give them value for their money.
Now they pay 60 Euros (!) and get nothing..... (only the same loud 90s shitmusic as last year, that nobody wants to hear).
Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...
Antoine wrote: ↑10 Sep 2022, 10:25
The spottersday is a total rip-off.
Almost none of the foreign visitors fly during the day, only the local Belgian stuff.
When you organize an event especially for spotters, you must give them value for their money.
Now they pay 60 Euros (!) and get nothing..... (only the same loud 90s shitmusic as last year, that nobody wants to hear).
Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...
You're right indeed. Many aircraft were hidden away from the spotters last year and they didn't even bother to let those aircraft taxi along the spotters.
But now the entrance price has even been 20 Euros more than last year, with the excuse that this year you'll get foodtickets.... to make sure that the foodstands have more income.... Spotters are easy people to rip off, because they easily take the bait.
As a matter of fact:
Yesterday, local people could visit the same field for only 12 Euro (incl. 9 Euro foodtickets) and watch lots of flying foreign aircraft and today spotters must pay 60 Euros in total and most of the aircraft flying are only Belgian. So you have to pay lots more money for less interesting movements .... Logical? Next time, let the spotters also pay 12 Euros and visit the base on friday, and let local people go on the saturday instead.
Antoine wrote: ↑10 Sep 2022, 10:25
The spottersday is a total rip-off.
Almost none of the foreign visitors fly during the day, only the local Belgian stuff.
When you organize an event especially for spotters, you must give them value for their money.
Now they pay 60 Euros (!) and get nothing..... (only the same loud 90s shitmusic as last year, that nobody wants to hear).
Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...
You're right indeed. Many aircraft were hidden away from the spotters last year and they didn't even bother to let those aircraft taxi along the spotters.
But now the entrance price has even been 20 Euros more than last year, with the excuse that this year you'll get foodtickets.... to make sure that the foodstands have more income.... Spotters are easy people to rip off, because they easily take the bait.
As a matter of fact:
Yesterday, local people could visit the same field for only 12 Euro (incl. 9 Euro foodtickets) and watch lots of flying foreign aircraft and today spotters must pay 60 Euros in total and most of the aircraft flying are only Belgian. So you have to pay lots more money for less interesting movements .... Logical? Next time, let the spotters also pay 12 Euros and visit the base on friday, and let local people go on the saturday instead.
For god sake, stop moaning.. You could also appreciate that they take all the trouble to organize these kind of events (in the Netherlands there is nothing). True, it was disappointing that some Tigers remained out of sight last year but I understood that these units didn't get or give permission. Also note that you were allowed to return on Monday (FOR FREE) if you had a ticket for the Saturday. Also the organizing committee never knows what will show up in the end. And also true, 60 euro's is a lot of money but all prizes are skyrocketing so why would this be different?
So you are free to make the choice to attend or stay at home and go fishing or something, but please stop whining and try to motivate and appreciate the guys who are organize the spottersday. Don't take this for granted. I think the Belgian Air Force Days will be at KB again next year and I am really looking forward to their spottersday!
57HEAVY wrote: ↑10 Sep 2022, 14:25
Did you Enjoy the one of last year?with most of the tigers plane hidden from the spotters?i didn t expect better things today that s why i m home ...
You're right indeed. Many aircraft were hidden away from the spotters last year and they didn't even bother to let those aircraft taxi along the spotters.
But now the entrance price has even been 20 Euros more than last year, with the excuse that this year you'll get foodtickets.... to make sure that the foodstands have more income.... Spotters are easy people to rip off, because they easily take the bait.
As a matter of fact:
Yesterday, local people could visit the same field for only 12 Euro (incl. 9 Euro foodtickets) and watch lots of flying foreign aircraft and today spotters must pay 60 Euros in total and most of the aircraft flying are only Belgian. So you have to pay lots more money for less interesting movements .... Logical? Next time, let the spotters also pay 12 Euros and visit the base on friday, and let local people go on the saturday instead.
For god sake, stop moaning.. You could also appreciate that they take all the trouble to organize these kind of events (in the Netherlands there is nothing). True, it was disappointing that some Tigers remained out of sight last year but I understood that these units didn't get or give permission. Also note that you were allowed to return on Monday (FOR FREE) if you had a ticket for the Saturday. Also the organizing committee never knows what will show up in the end. And also true, 60 euro's is a lot of money but all prizes are skyrocketing so why would this be different?
So you are free to make the choice to attend or stay at home and go fishing or something, but please stop whining and try to motivate and appreciate the guys who are organize the spottersday. Don't take this for granted. I think the Belgian Air Force Days will be at KB again next year and I am really looking forward to their spottersday!
You are definitively one of those spotters, easy to rip off.
Again: local people could buy tickets for only 12 Euros (inclusive 9 euro foodtickets), why do spotters have to pay 60 Euros (for even less movements)?
I guess everyone made his or her choice.
Nobody who decided to come had a problem with paying 60 Euro.
But they did expect to get a "product" in return.
And that's where all went wrong......
Exactly. I think we all had a decent idea of what we would see (and not see) today, except for the unfortunate cancellations. However, if I go to an event catering specifically to spotters, organized by an experienced team and charging a fee that makes it one of the most costly events of its sort, I don't expect the majority of the aircraft to be in covers for most of the day. And I don't expect landing a/c that stop & turn before reaching the beginning of the crowdline.
boonens wrote: ↑10 Sep 2022, 17:50
Exactly. I think we all had a decent idea of what we would see (and not see) today, except for the unfortunate cancellations. However, if I go to an event catering specifically to spotters, organized by an experienced team and charging a fee that makes it one of the most costly events of its sort, I don't expect the majority of the aircraft to be in covers for most of the day. And I don't expect landing a/c that stop & turn before reaching the beginning of the crowdline.
and that the aircrafts are not always hidden in the forest where you cannot see them
Hangar:
N25Y P-38L Red Bulll, ex USAAF, 44-53254
FA-77 F-16AM 10 w
FA-95 F-16AM 10 w
FA-104 F-16AM 10 w
FA-.. F-16AM 10 w spec.tail
FB-24 F-16BM 10 w spec.tail
Other side runway:
CT-03 A.400M 20 sm
CSX62219/RS-50 C-27J 311 gr. RSV
T-409 Saab T-17 FLSK/ Bay Blue
T-415 Saab T-17 FLSK/ Bay Blue
T-428 Saab T-17 FLSK/ Bay Blue
Flying only:
Q-22 AH-64D 301 sqn
Melsbroek/Brussel
CT-06 A.400M 20 sm
CT-.. A.400M 20 sm
CT-.. A.400M 20 sm
OO-FAE Falcon 7X 21 sm
OO-LUM Falcon 7X 21 sm
557 Gulfstream 4 4 sqn, Oman AF
485 C-130H 3 sqn Saoudi Arabia AF
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