Ramstein (ETAR/RMS) - 2007

andel · Post by **andel** » 30 Jan 2007, 19:29

So in the back of a USAF police car !!
Where you standing in sight of the field ?
Didt they difficult or where they just curiuos cos it,s a long time ago iv,e seen USAF policemen outside Ramstein
Useually they sent the German police for ID check and that,s it

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 30 Jan 2007, 19:56

andel wrote:So in the back of a USAF police car !!
Where you standing in sight of the field ?
Didt they difficult or where they just curiuos cos it,s a long time ago iv,e seen USAF policemen outside Ramstein
Useually they sent the German police for ID check and that,s it

For me it was the first time they had such a problem with me being there. They said that they can't forbide me to take pictures of aircraft in the air or watch with some bino's, but after a 30minutes discussion they promised me to keep coming back and check me out whenever they saw me with a camera or my bino's. They even wanted my home adress and telephone number, so I expect at least a christmas card and a phonecall when it's my birthday..... But after all I read almost all aircraft and stayed for another 3 hours with no trouble at all.

Cheers,

DAP · Post by **DAP** » 30 Jan 2007, 20:17

Your Strike Eagle was the 98-0132

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 30 Jan 2007, 20:23

Thanks.

Cheers,

Richard from Rotterdam · Post by **Richard from Rotterdam** » 31 Jan 2007, 09:22

where were you exactly when this happened? You must have been on base somewhere, as the US police, as far as I know, do not have any jurisdiction outside the military property.

nilsko · Post by **nilsko** » 31 Jan 2007, 10:54

Those guys must be living under a stone to *not* know anything about aircraft spotting around Ramstein. It's not that this place is quite unfamiliar with spotters..

This triggers me onto making a short FAQ with a little description "All-you-ever-need-to-know-about-spotters-but-were-afraid-to-ask" to handout to USAF MP's, Greek policemen and Tuirkish locals (to name a few). But I am starting to get off-topic here

SquAdmin · Post by **SquAdmin** » 31 Jan 2007, 11:07

nilsko wrote:Those guys must be living under a stone to *not* know anything about aircraft spotting around Ramstein.

Believe me, if these USAF policemen were just flow in from the States, they probably won't know. Also, they probably have had some lecture in the USAF's Eagles Eyes Program, which aims to discourage people from monitoring military flying activities (due to "terrorist threat"

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Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 31 Jan 2007, 11:07

Richard from Rotterdam wrote:where were you exactly when this happened? You must have been on base somewhere, as the US police, as far as I know, do not have any jurisdiction outside the military property.

No, I wasn't on base. I parked the car near the main gate and walked down the road near the beginning of runway 09 and 08. For me it also was the first time they were outside the base. But after all the only thing they say that they were not happy that I was there, but that they couldn't send me away.

Cheers,

Arjan · Post by **Arjan** » 02 Feb 2007, 14:28

Hi all,

I paid a visit to Spangdahlem with Polleke yesterday and decided to walk along the fence to the eastern approach. It appears that the USAF decided to chop down some of the woods to clear approach path, however the wind got hold on the rest of the trees and now the entire approach is clear of trees. There you can stand next to the fence, a little below the airfield with a great view of the approach!

Best regards,

Arjan

Oscar01 · Post by **Oscar01** » 02 Feb 2007, 16:48

Hi Arjan,

And what did you see yesterday?

Oscar

Arjan · Post by **Arjan** » 02 Feb 2007, 17:02

Hi,

Not much, just a KC-135R from the 100th (30314) and a C-17 (80054). Serials out of the head......we just made a small stop around 15.00h.

Best regards,
Arjan

Bjorn320 · Post by **Bjorn320** » 04 Feb 2007, 22:17

C5a 69-0023 137as
C5b 87-0028 436 aw
C17a 97-0043 437 aw
C17a 97-0047 437 aw
C17a 00-0175 62aw
C17a 01-0188 437 aw
C17a 01-0194 437 aw
C17a 01-0196 437 aw
C17a 01-0197 437 aw
C17a 02-0184 437 aw
C17a 02-1112 183 as
C17a 02-3118 183 as
C17a 03-3122 437 aw
2x UH-60 shape.
L100-30 N408LC Lynden air cargo
B747 N505MC Atlas air

locals:

C21a: 40084, 40111, 40112
C40a: 10040

Eric van Lisdonk · Post by **Eric van Lisdonk** » 04 Feb 2007, 23:01

Hi Bjorn,

I have some questions and corrections for you.

The C-5B 87-0028 436AW
Did you read this C-5 for 100% sure?? Because inbound that day was C-5B 87-0038 from 60AMW (blue finstripe)!!! Did you saw the yellow finstripe from 436AW on it?? Maybe it is a unit change.

Your C-17 02-0184 437AW did not excist. Maybe you mean 01-0188 from 437AW.

When you are 100% sure that the UH-60's are from Shape, than it simple, because they have only 2 UH-60's over there.

Cheers, Eric

Otto · Post by **Otto** » 05 Feb 2007, 07:43

SHAPE3A and SHAPE4A both visited Ramstein.

ATD SHAPE3A 12:19LT
ATD SHAPE4A 12:32LT

Oscar01 · Post by **Oscar01** » 23 Feb 2007, 10:24

Hi,

With the changing of the delta hercs so soon and haven't seen the OK C-130s yet, we decided to go to Ramstein for a day of spotting. In the end, it became only a few hours of spotting........

--- Ramstein, 22-02-07 06.00 - 10.00
68-0215 C-5A 445th AW - on ramp5
70-0465 C-5A nn RCH177 a06.45 ramp5/19
87-0120 KC-10A 305th AMW - on ramp5
89-1191 C-17A nn - on ramp5
92-3292 C-17A 437th AW RCH2292 d07.20
01-0187 C-17A 62nd AW - on ramp5
01-0191 C-17A 437th AW RCH424 a06.50 ramp8/3
02-1098 C-17A 437th AW RCH472 d06.25
03-3115 C-17A 173rd AW RCH168 a07.25 ramp5/24
03-3125 C-17A 62nd AW RCH188 a08.10 ramp5/20
04-4132 C-17A 305th AMW RCH195 a06.10 d09.55
05-5143 C-17A 452nd AMW - on ramp5
06-6154 C-17A 60th AMW RCH226 a10.00 ramp5/15
(01-0187)C-17A 62nd AW RCH145 a06.15
78-0809 C-130H OK ANG - on ramp2
78-0812 C-130H OK ANG - on ramp2
84-0208 C-130H DE ANG - on ramp2
89-1182 C-130H TN ANG - on ramp2
89-1183 C-130H TN ANG - on ramp2
91-1235 C-130H KY ANG - on ramp2
58-0060 KC-135R - on ramp5
61-0299 KC-135R - on ramp4

Civis:
N272WA RCH800 a07.55
N516MC RCH122 a08.15
RA82074 VD4419 a09.45 (makes even a C-17 looks very small!)

Locals:
84-0084 C-21A 76th AS Hook01 d10.00
84-0085 C-21A 76th AS Jalop79 d08.15
/RS C-130E 37th AS HKY261 d07.15

That was it. Around 10.00 local, we got a message (thanks a lot!) that 16x F-16s and 4x KC-135s should arrive at Spang around 12.30 from Incirlik. So we scrambled to Spangdahlem. Although it was a hard decission, cause 2 good Travis C-17s should arrive later (06-6156 and 06-6160).

--- Spangdahlem, 22-02-02, 11.30-14.30
00-0173 C-17A 62nd AW RCH253 d11.50
(58-0036 KC-135R 100th ARW Bobby91 a14.45) (we missed this one just 5 or 10 min)
60-0313 KC-135R 92nd ARW Bobby61 a13.50
63-8008 KC-135R 92nd ARW Bobby71 a14.05
63-8879 KC-135R 100th ARW Bobby81 a14.20
nn Tornado JBG33 BU87A a11.40 (f/s)

Locals:
80-0821/SP JADEC01
81-0956/SP MANIAC01
81-0962/SP JADEC02
81-0963/SP MANIAC02
81-0966/SP STEAL01
81-0988/SP SLAM01
81-0991/SP SLAM02

90-0828/SP 22FS CUBE21
90-0843/SP 22FS CUBE34
91-0336/SP 22FS SPAM02
91-0338/SP 22FS SHAVEY02
91-0341/SP 22FS SPAM01
91-0342/SP 22FS SHAVEY01
91-0402/SP 23FS CUBE31
91-0406/SP 22FS CUBE24
91-0408/SP 22FS CUBE13
91-0410/SP 23FS HARLEY01
91-0414/SP 23FS CUBE32
91-0417/SP 23FS CUBE14
91-0418/SP 23FS CUBE22
91-0464/SP 22FS COBY02
91-0472/SP 23FS COBY01
91-0474/SP 23FS CUBE33
91-0391/SP 22FS CUBE12
92-3918/SP 23FS CUBE23
96-0081/SP 23FS CUBE11
96-0082/SP 23FS HARLEY02
+4 Cube41-44 arriving 14.45

That's it! Any additions, corrections or questions, are welcome.

Bye,
Oscar

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