Florennes (EBFS) - 2007

[Hanske]

Same question for me because i'm planning a tour tomorrow (wednesday)

Hoi Hans,

Looking at the weather forcast and at http://www.florennes-as.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; a normal mission should be planned and flown. Expect departures between 12.30 and 13.30 with arrivals starting somewhere around 14.30/1500.

Have fun!

Thanks Remco

[Piet Luijken]

As always, as accurate as possible, all info can be found one click away in the comfort of your own Scramble website:

http://www.scramble.nl/databases/tlp/tl ... 7&period=6

greetings

[Flanker27]

I will also be there tomorrow. If wind is North like epxected tomorro, is the best place to take pics (long lense). on west or east side of field? (taxxiing/t/o shots)

[Ronaldsnl]

According the FAS website a full mission was flown today over the UK. But no signs of the HH-3's. Are these beauties still present ?

I think it will be busy tomorrow.... Let's keep our fingers crossed the fog will not spoil our day.

C.U.

[Piet Luijken]

With take-offs to the east, you have two options.

You could stand at spot 2 and hope on a nice low take-off and maybe a nice turn to the right. Tornados are known for their low take-offs, there are seven of those so that gives you a change. F-4Fs have a equal style of departure. But the F-16s just rotate at the mid position and pitch up to about 20 degrees, so not good.

You could stand at spot 3, well a bit up the hill towards the gate where you will have a view from above onto the taxiway and take-off runway. With 400mm this could be an option as well.

Landing are best at spot 3 as spot 4 will have the sun against you.

All spots are explained at http://www.scramble.nl/airports/publish/ebfs.htm

For more questions, I will be available at the fence tomorrow.
How about that for some service!

gr

[Flanker27]

For more questions, I will be available at the fence tomorrow.
How about that for some service!

gr

If you'll hear someone shout your name, or you hear a blue impreza approaching, that'll be us. If not, have fun tomorrow and thanks for your advice.

[Richard de Florennes]

the CSAR mission was cancelled and delayed until tomorrow due to the bad weather over Northern France. However, luckily, TLP ops was flexible enough to compile a "normal" mission to the UK, which seems to have the best weather at the moment ...

FLORENNES TUESDAY 2007-12-11 RW25
Weather: scattered clouds, sunny spells, two light showers, windy

Based aircraft (2 Wing; 1 & 350 Squadron):

1) morning wave:
F-16AM 2 Wing FA83/- no badge L11:15da1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA130/FS L11:15da1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA107/FS L11:21*a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA68 /- no badge L11:08*a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA101/- spec c/s L11:58+
F-16BM 2 Wing FB05 /FS no badge L15:47+a3

2) afternoon wave:
F-16AM 2 Wing FA68 /- no badge T13:52 L15:50 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA130/FS T13:52 L15:51 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA83 /- no badge T13:53 L15:48 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA92 /- no badge T13:53 L15:48 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA115/FS no badge T14:02 L15:19 a2
F-16AM 2 Wing FA135/- no badge T14:02 L15:13 a0
F-16AM 2 Wing FA131/- demo c/s T14:51 L16:01 QRA
F-16AM 2 Wing FA107/FS T14:51 L16:02 QRA


Additional movements:
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-54/12-12 L11:32
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-49/12-07 T14:54




Detached aircraft (Tactical Leadership Programme - TLP 2007/6):
Falcon 20ECM FRA G-FRAS T12:20 L14:45
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-58/12-16 T12:28 L14:22
EF-18BM Ala 12 CE.15-12/12-75 T12:28 L14:22
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-70/12-28 T12:30 L14:23(d)
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-44/12-02 T12:30 L14:23(d)
F-4F JG 71 37+01 T12:36 L14:29
F-4F JG 71 38+63 T12:36 L14:29
EF.2000 4°Stormo MM7277/4-1 T12:38 L14:16
EF.2000 4°Stormo MM7281/4-14 T12:38 L14:16
F-16AM 2 Wing FA91/FS T12:42 L14:40
F-16AM 2 Wing FA84/- T12:42 L14:40
Tornado ECR 50°Stormo MM7019/50-05 T12:46 L14:34
Tornado ECR 50°Stormo MM7062/50-44 T12:46 L14:26
Tornado ECR JaboG 32 46+24 T12:48 L14:31d
Tornado ECR JaboG 32 46+25 T12:48 L14:31d
AV-8B+ GRUPAER MM7199/I-03 T12:33 L14:20
AV-8B+ GRUPAER MM7200/I-04 T12:50 L14:25
AV-8B+ GRUPAER MM7213/I-07 T12:50 L14:25
F-16C 555thFS 89-030/AV pr T12:52 L14:38
F-16C 555thFS 89-041/AV gn T12:52 L14:38
F-16AM 313 Sqn J-509 T12:40 L14:12
F-16AM 312 Sqn J-142 T12:54 L14:44
F-16AM 313 Sqn J-058 T12:54 L14:44
F-16C 555thFS 87-351/AV gn T12:56 L14:48
F-16C 555thFS 89-038/AV gn T12:56 L14:48
Tornado GR.4 31 Sqn ZA556/047 no badge T12:44 L14:36(d)
Tornado GR.4 13 Sqn ZG707/119 no badge T12:58 L14:36(d)

(notes: after a last-minute decision while already on my way to work I arrived at Florennes at late morning this time. As the weather was rather ok and risk of persistant mist forecasted for the rest of the week, I had taken this chance for completing my experience of this TLP course. Indeed, soon after arriving at the airbase, an impressive TLP mass-launch with 27 aircraft and no noteworthy ground-abort took place. Highlights among the participants of course where the four Spanish "Hornets" acting as additional/opposing fighter aircraft for this TLP mission. Also very welcome were quite a lot of changed airframes compared to my last visit of this flying course, featuring a "new" F-4F, one "new" 'AV' F-16, one "new" Klu F-16, one "new" JaboG 32 Tornado and one "new" based F-16. Luckily also both RAF Tornados went airborne this time. Two additional EF-18s plus nice activity of based F-16s, including some recce-configurated examples completed my last visit at Florennes this year ...)

[Iwan Bogels]

Hi,

According to 2Wing Staff, these were Dutch spotters who were allowed on base, but not on TLP ramp. In my *own* words "a selfguided tour"...

Names were mentioned, but I won't publish them here as tlp staff is still working on this (and yes, they were dutch ).

Oscar

Hi Oscar,

Your words make me even more curious about the facts. I have seen some strange things happen to people at TLP. Good example:

Many years ago a fellow hobbyist visited TLP at Florennes from the outside, only to discover that they had a non-flying day. So before he went home, he drove up to the gate and asked for permission to make some flightline shots. To his surprise he was allowed to go to the TLP building and ask for somebody to accompany him. All he needed to do was to leave his passport at the gate and report at TLP.

This guy went to the TLP office in a straight line and asked for the commander. As he introduced himself and explained the commander about the purpose of his presence, the commander was furious to find a civillian spotter in his building. He sent him off base, only to have him arrested and be brought back when he reported to the gate two minutes later to collect his passport. (yes, he headed back in a straight line)

This guys was released about an hour after his arrest, without ever having been close to the flightline or even having taken his camera from the trunk of his car.

Now I don't say that this year's incident was as innocent as the one described above, but I am curious about the details ! Anyone have more info yet ???

CU all tomorrow at TLP,

Iwan

[YOXA]

the CSAR mission was cancelled and delayed until tomorrow due to the bad weather over Northern France. However, luckily, TLP ops was flexible enough to compile a "normal" mission to the UK, which seems to have the best weather at the moment ...

FLORENNES TUESDAY 2007-12-11 RW25
Weather: scattered clouds, sunny spells, two light showers, windy

Based aircraft (2 Wing; 1 & 350 Squadron):

1) morning wave:
F-16AM 2 Wing FA83/- no badge L11:15da1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA130/FS L11:15da1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA107/FS L11:21*a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA68 /- no badge L11:08*a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA101/- spec c/s L11:58+
F-16BM 2 Wing FB05 /FS no badge L15:47+a3

2) afternoon wave:
F-16AM 2 Wing FA68 /- no badge T13:52 L15:50 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA130/FS T13:52 L15:51 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA83 /- no badge T13:53 L15:48 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA92 /- no badge T13:53 L15:48 a1
F-16AM 2 Wing FA115/FS no badge T14:02 L15:19 a2
F-16AM 2 Wing FA135/- no badge T14:02 L15:13 a0
F-16AM 2 Wing FA131/- demo c/s T14:51 L16:01 QRA
F-16AM 2 Wing FA107/FS T14:51 L16:02 QRA


Additional movements:
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-54/12-12 L11:32
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-49/12-07 T14:54




Detached aircraft (Tactical Leadership Programme - TLP 2007/6):
Falcon 20ECM FRA G-FRAS T12:20 L14:45
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-58/12-16 T12:28 L14:22
EF-18BM Ala 12 CE.15-12/12-75 T12:28 L14:22
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-70/12-28 T12:30 L14:23(d)
EF-18M Ala 12 C.15-44/12-02 T12:30 L14:23(d)
F-4F JG 71 37+01 T12:36 L14:29
F-4F JG 71 38+63 T12:36 L14:29
EF.2000 4°Stormo MM7277/4-1 T12:38 L14:16
EF.2000 4°Stormo MM7281/4-14 T12:38 L14:16
F-16AM 2 Wing FA91/FS T12:42 L14:40
F-16AM 2 Wing FA84/- T12:42 L14:40
Tornado ECR 50°Stormo MM7019/50-05 T12:46 L14:34
Tornado ECR 50°Stormo MM7062/50-44 T12:46 L14:26
Tornado ECR JaboG 32 46+24 T12:48 L14:31d
Tornado ECR JaboG 32 46+25 T12:48 L14:31d
AV-8B+ GRUPAER MM7199/I-03 T12:33 L14:20
AV-8B+ GRUPAER MM7200/I-04 T12:50 L14:25
AV-8B+ GRUPAER MM7213/I-07 T12:50 L14:25
F-16C 555thFS 89-030/AV pr T12:52 L14:38
F-16C 555thFS 89-041/AV gn T12:52 L14:38
F-16AM 313 Sqn J-509 T12:40 L14:12
F-16AM 312 Sqn J-142 T12:54 L14:44
F-16AM 313 Sqn J-058 T12:54 L14:44
F-16C 555thFS 87-351/AV gn T12:56 L14:48
F-16C 555thFS 89-038/AV gn T12:56 L14:48
Tornado GR.4 31 Sqn ZA556/047 no badge T12:44 L14:36(d)
Tornado GR.4 13 Sqn ZG707/119 no badge T12:58 L14:36(d)

(notes: after a last-minute decision while already on my way to work I arrived at Florennes at late morning this time. As the weather was rather ok and risk of persistant mist forecasted for the rest of the week, I had taken this chance for completing my experience of this TLP course. Indeed, soon after arriving at the airbase, an impressive TLP mass-launch with 27 aircraft and no noteworthy ground-abort took place. Highlights among the participants of course where the four Spanish "Hornets" acting as additional/opposing fighter aircraft for this TLP mission. Also very welcome were quite a lot of changed airframes compared to my last visit of this flying course, featuring a "new" F-4F, one "new" 'AV' F-16, one "new" Klu F-16, one "new" JaboG 32 Tornado and one "new" based F-16. Luckily also both RAF Tornados went airborne this time. Two additional EF-18s plus nice activity of based F-16s, including some recce-configurated examples completed my last visit at Florennes this year ...)

Can some one confirm that the 5th AV8 was towed at about 10am?

[Banter]

Thursday 13th Dec 07

The 5 AME F18's are planned to dep at 1015L !

[Polleke_NL]

As in "leaving for home" ? In that case, would that imply there will be no mission tomorrow ??

[wapo84]

ETD0900 I0992 EBFS LFSD (2ship) S61R
ETD0945 BAF201 EBFS ETAR F16 1app at ETNN and IFR training at ETAR

[Banter]

As in "leaving for home" ? In that case, would that imply there will be no mission tomorrow ??

Yep the F18's are leaving for home

[FISHER01]

and the rest?

[Pony02]

Good question Fisher,

Anybody an idea why the Spanish are leaving already tomorrow, is this mission (13-12) already cancelled ? And what about the CSAR HH-3F's, did they flew today and are/where they planned for tomorrow?

Ciao, Pony02