Wittmundhafen (ETNT) - 2008

[Paul]

HI Rob,

To complete the log, as we stayed a few ours longer due to the trafficjam we expected to drive in when leaving so early:

Wittmund 2-7-2008:
38+26* F-4F JG71
N431FS A-4 FS
N268WL A-4 FS
37+03* F-4F JG71
38+01* F-4F JG71
50+86 C-160D LTG-61
38+64* F-4F JG71
38+00* F-4F JG71
37+75 F-4F JG71
38+46* F-4F JG71
38+61* F-4F JG71
38+28* F-4F JG71
38+53 F-4F JG71
38+55* F-4F JG71
38+64* F-4F JG71 (flew with JG74)
37+85 F-4F JG74 mks
38+37 F-4F JG74 spec.c/s
38+67* F-4F JG71
37+48* F-4F JG71 spec. mks
38+28* F-4F JG71
37+03* F-4F JG71 QRA
37+26* F-4F JG71 QRA
37+88* F-4F JG71 (towed)
N262WL A-4 FS (inside Hangar)

*= JG71 mks.
Samples from this day at:http://www.scramble.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42921

Regards and till nekst time,
Paul.

[perrie]

Hi Paul,

Very nice log
Saw you mention some Phantoms twice
(37+03, 38+28, 38+64)
Thanks for sharing, hopefully we can enjoy them for some time to come.

Per

[Nato Tiger]

Hello,

Today we spent a day at Witmund.
The winning numbers are:

37+01 F-4F
37+75 F-4F
37+77 F-4F
37+85 F-4F
37+89 F-4F
38+01 F-4F
38+16 F-4F
38+26 F-4F
38+31 F-4F
38+37 F-4F
38+46 F-4F
38+50 F-4F
38+57 F-4F
38+60 F-4F
38+61 F-4F
38+64 F-4F
38+66 F-4F
38+67 F-4F
38+69 F-4F
38+70 F-4F
38+74 F-4F
38+73 F-4F
38+75 F-4F

44+02 Tornado overshoot
??+?? Tornado overshoot

Regards,

Harrie Kraaijeveld
Peter den Ottelander

[R. Stalenhoef]

Were these 23 F-4s all flying? I was there 3 weeks ago and saw only 8 of which 4 didn't return between 10AM and 3PM...... Talking about frustration after looking at these numbers....

Bye for now!

[Flanker27]

Were these 23 F-4s all flying? I was there 3 weeks ago and saw only 8 of which 4 didn't return between 10AM and 3PM...... Talking about frustration after looking at these numbers....

Bye for now!

some left Statewise, maybe the 4 you are talking about. If you have pics, they should have travelpods.

[R. Stalenhoef]

[quote="Flanker27" Some left Statewise, maybe the 4 you are talking about. If you have pics, they should have travelpods.[/quote]

The 4 that didn't return in my case where a flight of 2 which I found out landed at Nordholz (rare I guess) and the other 2 that didn't return was a single flight in the morning and one in the afternoon.

Just to make sure, are the F-4s already in the States and do you have any idea when they will return?

Kind regards,

[Iwan Bogels]

Hi all,

Is there any news on the new fence ? I am planning to go to Wittmund next Thursday, which will be my very first time around this base.

In the past I heard about stepladders being forbidden and police sending you backwards from the fence (or totally away in some occasions). Any news on these unwritten rules ?

Any reply would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Iwan

[Hornet69]

Hi Iwan,

Another item about Wittmund can be found here:

http://www.scramble.nl/forum/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

This year I have been twice to Witmund. Both times no problems with security. No new fence at that time and no need for a stepledder. With the new fence I do not know. I have read a message from Paul Gross somewhere on this MB a stepledder is needed nowadays. Also due to the new fence less possibilities along the runway.

All the times I have been at Wittmund I had no problems wit security. But on advice of some local spotters I stayed away from the fence when there was no activity.

Take also a look at http://www.flugzeugforum.de. Go to forum and pick subject "Flugplatze". Scroll to Wittmund and you will read a lot of messages and see pictures about Wittmund.

I also have plans to go to Wittmund, but will go on Wednesday. Spottersday on 30th of July.

Good luck on Thursday. Hope to see your pics on the photoforum. Always enjoy yours pics.

Greetz,

Edward.



Als

[Iwan Bogels]

Hi everybody,

Last Thursday I visited Wittmund for the very first time, partly because of the annouced new fence. Flying was good (three waves of up to nine aircraft each, until 16.00 hrs), and so was the weather.

For photographers the coming week(s) may be crucial if you want to do some good Phantom and Skyhawk shooting on line-up, take-off and roll out with chutes. The new fence will definately obstruct you from walking along the runway in the future, as can still be done now.

The bad news is that the new fence has been almost finished on the western part of the airbase, but the (temporary) good news is that you can still drive around it as the ring is not fully closed yet. Last Thursday no construction works to the new fence were observed, which may be caused by the holiday season. But most likely work will resume within days, maybe weeks, and many perfect photo spots will disappear forever.

So if you want to do some good German Phantom photography, you better hurry up as it may be your very last chance ever.......

In order to explain the situation, I have drawn a map to show you where to go. The light blue line is a trimmed grass strip of about 3 meters wide. This is the best way to get to the right spot by car, for line-up and touchdown shots. The grass strip is a bit bumpy, but it's better than the (unmarked) trimmed grass strip along the old fence, which can only be accessed through an enormous deep muddy pool near the middle of the runway (next to radar site). Everybody advised me to park the car AWAY from the old fence in order to avoid discussions with military police and even Polizei ! If you park inside the new fence, you may want to do it next to the parking spot outside the fence so your car "blends in" with other spotters vehicles.

The new fence is about 50 cm higher than the old fence, and has barbed wire that curves towards you (old fence was a straight up fence, new one has wires that extend towards you at the top). You need about a 5-step ladder to get a completely clear shot from over the barbed wire, or a 2-step to shoot just over the fence and under the wires.

I hope this message will provide you with enough information to get there before it's too late. I will upload some photos in the photo-section later this weekend.

Good luck,
Iwan

[Key]

Hi Iwan, I see you did well! Thx for the detailed info and the impressive pics.
Re. your map, the central spot (two green roads) used to be past the very large 'no photography' sign that had disappeared elsewhere. If that is still the case, shooting there would put you more at risk for a fine or otherwise. Just for info for those going for it!

Erik

[Bassie76]

@ Redskin301 and others:

I read you are planning a trip to Wittmund next tuesday. Maybe a rude question but is there any special reason for you to go on that day, arrivals for the spottersday maybe?

I was planning to go on wednesday, the spottersday, but not on the field itself, but to stay at the south-side of the runway. However, I don't know how the flying will be that day and if it wil be affected by the spottersday?

Maybe you know more?

Thanks

[Redskin301]

Bassie76,

The reason is that i'm allways of from my work on tuesdays. That's the big atvantage when you have to work sometimes in the weekend, it's compensated during the working week

[wvanbel]

@ Redskin301 and others:

However, I don't know how the flying will be that day and if it wil be affected by the spottersday?

Maybe you know more?

Thanks

This in the info I received related to the spottersday:

We expect you till approx. 10:00 o'clock in the lodging area of the fighter wing 71 “Richthofen “ in the Isumser street 20, in 26409 Wittmund.
From here a coach shuttle service will bring you to the airfield and you get the opportunity to take photos of the jubilee airplanes of the JG 71 “R “, of the JG 73 and the WTD in Manching. Moreover, an armed phantom is issued, as well as an A-4 Skyhawk of the company of BAE Flight systems.
Also our historical airplanes (F-104, F-86, Me-109) shall be seen.
In the midday there will be also a start phase.
About 13:30 o'clock the event will be finished.


Best regards,

Walter

[Ronaldsnl]

Hi,

Ik have 2 seats available in my car. 10 euro p.p.

Ik live near Delft (NL) and I drive via A4, A12, A27, A6 etc.

Please send a PM.

Mzzl

Ronald

[mirage 69]

I heard there will be a ringroad around the soutern side of the base.
But when I look at the place from the new fence, they can build a whole new sheltercamp.... (for the EF2000 maybe)

Grtz Rene