Thunderflash and Thunderstreak Photo Topic

[bingo20]

Don't bother Hans, I just love to see them, saw them in Greece but it was too tricky to go to the fence with a camera.
All kind of people with 'schietpistolen'.I love your one man show!

Greece , eh? That is my favorite holiday destination (after Turkey of course! ), but don't go too close near the fence of a military aerodrome , and not in the least with a camera ,otherwise you might end up in jail as a spy!
These Thunderstreaks were photographed by me at Larissa after having obtained an official permission to do so in July of 1972 . A few of them were ex Luftwaffe and they were all about to end their operational service.
enjoy!
Hans

[bingo20]

Hans,
I will scan some more very soon, don't have that much time now;

Rob,
I am looking forward to those scans , but take your time and don't get rushed up! Nice pics so far!
bye!
Hans

[dick loh vervallen]

To support this nice 84 topic.



Dick

[dick loh vervallen]

A shot from Eindhoven in the "old" days.
I guess it would be nice to walk around this scene with nowadays photo equipment!!!



Dick

[bingo20]

A shot from Eindhoven in the "old" days.Dick

Thank you very much for posting those superb pictures , Dick!

Are you certain that they were taken at Eindhoven?  On second thought it is my opinion they date back to September 1969. In that month exercise "Green Express" took place at Karup in Denmark, in which 314 squadron participated with not less than 25(!) Thunderstreaks!
Could I be right?
Regards
Hans

[dick loh vervallen]

A shot from Eindhoven in the "old" days.
Dick

Thank you very much for posting those superb pictures , Dick!
Are you certain that they were taken at Eindhoven?
In my opinion they date back to 1967. In that year exercise "Cold Winter" took place at Bodo in Norway (to be precise: from February 27th to March 8th), in which 314 squadron participated.
In that case the photos could either have been taken at Bodo or during a fuel-stop , for example somewhere in Denmark.Could I be right?
bye for now!
Hans

To be honest Hans, I do not know exactly when and where this shot was made as there is no info on the sllide. So after reading your comment I only can

Hope you like this one of P-201



Dick

[B.J. van de Maat]

An American scale modeler ask me what kind of color that is on the side and de wings.
A decal producer say it is aqua blue, but to me it seems more mint green or something.
Any one an idea about that?

@Dick, are you back in the Netherlands (Rijssen) or still abroad?

[bingo20]

An American scale modeler ask me what kind of color that is on the side and de wings.
A decal producer say it is aqua blue, but to me it seems more mint green or something.
Any one an idea about that?

According to the book "Vliegend in Nederland/Thunderstreak"(author : G.Hiltermann), published by Flash Aviation in 1986 (recommended!) , page 24 , the colour on the side and wings of these Whiskey Four'67 demoteam Thunderstreaks was "Middelgroen KLu 502".
Perhaps that will help you any further?
Regards
Hans

[dick loh vervallen]

A couple more from 314 sqn.



P-230 at Gilze Rijen open day on 18 June 1977. This a/c was alreafy wfu by then. Note the AKG-51 zap on the nose.




Enjoy them,
Dick

[dick loh vervallen]

A July 1969 shot of Belgian Air Force FU-106.



Dick

[bingo20]

Magnificent pictures , Dick!
Those are the kind of photographs we have been waiting a long time for to see!
Regards
Hans

[dick loh vervallen]

Piacenza 28 July 1972 F-84F-61-RE 36704/50-04



Dick

[dick loh vervallen]

Eskisehir 13-11-'85



Dick

[Bright Star Aviation]

Eskisehir 13-11-'85



Dick

This is not a Thunderstreak but a Thunderjet. Butt it is still a verry nice photo.

Groet,
Martijn

[Mickey312]

Towing a Streak was very delicate. It didn't have nose-wheel steering and the guy in the cockpit had to steer with the brakes and brake for the tow-truck, or the nose-gear would get damaged.

Mickey

Well, I have to correct myself (thanks dad !). With the eighty-four, during taxi, the shimmy-damper in the nose landing gear (NLG) permited some movement of the nosewheel. In that way, it allowed steering by assymetric braking with the main landing gear (MLG) brakes.

During towing, the towbar was connected to the nosewheel. The aircraft would follow the towtruck and the nosewheel was steered by the towbar, but the movement was limited by stops. If a too tight corner was taken, the towbar would sheer-off, so the NLG wasn't damaged.

If during towing the person in the cockpit stepped on the brakes, the chances were the NLG was pulled from under the aircraft by the towtruck, so braking by the person in the cockpit was only allowed in emergencies. In rough terrain or in snow, cables had to be attached between the MLG and the towbar during towing, again to prevent the NLG from being pulled from under the aircraft.

The above is specific to the F-84. Most other aircraft have NLG steering and during towing, the scissors have to be disconnected so that the nosewheel can follow the towbar.

I hope I got it right this time . Oh and guys, great pics Keep them coming!

Mickey