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Canon EOS50D

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Outstanding speed and resolution for the discerning photographer: the EOS 50D

Amstelveen, The Netherlands, 26 August 2008: Canon today strengthens its EOS range with the addition of a powerful new digital SLR: the EOS 50D. With a 15.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor, 6.3 frames per second shooting and Canon’s latest DIGIC 4 image processor, the EOS 50D delivers unparalleled speed and resolution at a price point that is unique in today’s market.

Outstanding, clean images
A newly designed 15.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor delivers ultra-detailed, low-noise images – ideal for large-scale reproduction or creative cropping. New manufacturing processes, plus redesigned photo diodes and microlenses, extend the light gathering capabilities of the sensor – allowing more pixels to be fitted on the CMOS sensor without compromising image quality. These changes ensure improved high ISO performance and low noise. High-speed, low light shooting is enabled by ISO levels of 3200, expandable to an ultra-sensitive 12800.

The EOS Integrated Cleaning System – including the improved Self Cleaning Sensor Unit with a new fluorine coating – increases protection of image quality by helping to reduce, repel and remove unwanted dust from the sensor. Stubborn particles can be removed automatically in post-production with Dust Delete Data and Canon’s included Digital Photo Professional software.

Rapid-fire performance
Canon’s new DIGIC 4 processor is fast enough to allow up to 6.3fps continuous shooting, in bursts of up to 90 JPEGs with a UDMA card. Used with Canon’s wide area AF system, which locks onto subjects with 9 individual cross type sensors, stunning action sequences can be captured – even in low-light conditions. This makes the EOS 50D particularly suited to sports and wildlife shooting.

DIGIC 4 works with the CMOS sensor to deliver 14-bit image processing, for smooth gradation and natural-looking colours – as well as ensuring ultra-fast startup times and near-instant image review after shooting.

See everything
A new 3.0” Clear View VGA LCD provides extra-large and wide angle-of-view image review, with plenty of clarity for accurate focus checks in playback. By switching to Live View mode – which displays a real-time image on the LCD – photographers can enjoy simplified shooting from awkward angles, or connect to a PC for remote shooting. Live Mode now offers three ways to auto focus: Quick AF, Live AF, and new Face Detection Live AF, which optimizes focus based on faces detected in the frame – for fast, spontaneous portraiture.

Control and ease
The famously intuitive EOS menu system includes a new Quick Control screen, for instant access to the most commonly-changed settings. A new Creative Auto mode offers automatic focus and exposure – while still allowing creative ‘tweaks’ to settings such as background sharpness.
“For advanced amateurs and semi-professionals – or professionals looking for a powerful backup model – the EOS 50D stands alone,” said Mogens Jensen, Head of Canon Consumer Imaging, Europe. “No other camera in this price bracket offers a comparable combination of speed and image quality.”
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NEW EOS 50D is a our dreamcamera

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Chaps

Dont ask me how, but I had the change to play with the 1st production body 50D. (!)

And you now: It is soooo fast with the auto focus !

Did a test with flying birds; it kept on firing,they all came out perfect ... Very nice LCD screen as well...

I bet we gonna see lots of more stunning action shots in the near future !
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Looking at the specs I would say that the difference between 50D and 40D is bigger than the gap between 30D and 20D. What I was wondering about, are the 40D users on this forum satistied with the anti-dust measures in their cameras? (haven't read too many users' opinions about this up till now)
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To me, it seems that the 40D as it was supposed to be in the first place is finally introduced. However, I doubt that many 40D-users will get this 50D. But if they will, that should result in a load of (young) 40D's in the second-hand market :D.

I own a 400D, which has a anti-dust-system as well and it's quite nice, I think. It does its job quite good, and so far, I've never encountered dust on the sensor (with the note that I don't very regularly change lenses, and that I didn't have a second one till one month ago).
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first review +video EOS 50D

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This is a review on the 50D by Brutus Ostling

And, beeing able to test this body myself, its all true. the fastest focus I've ever seen !


http://photography-on-the.net/forum/sho ... p?t=558915

The highly respected Swedish bird and nature photographer Brutus Östling was one of the few selected photographers testing out the 50D this summer.

Qoute : "When I took up my EOS 1 D Mark III and did the same thing the result was less convincing, I have experienced Mark III-s as fast, but EOS 50 D was clearly faster.
I repeated the manoeuvre a dozen times with two cameras. "

When the motive is still its my assessment that the EOS 50D has probably the world's fastest AF.


The video Canon shot while he was testing the 50D can now be seen here http://tv.mediaprovider.se/brutus_ostli ... 56037.html



:wink: this video was shot by me, so thats how I was able to test the 50D myself...
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Post by streep »

For the marginal differences, 40D/50D, I doubt it will be succesfull.

First quetsions...
* Why is the 5D full size and the 50D APS-C ?
* ISO 12800 ?? Where would you need that for ?
* Why still no ISO 50 or 64 ??

OK, the LCD screen is a good improvement, and many good reviews on the AF-Speed


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50D : 1399, orders for Oct08



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streep wrote:For the marginal differences, 40D/50D, I doubt it will be succesfull.

First quetsions...
* Why is the 5D full size and the 50D APS-C ?
* ISO 12800 ?? Where would you need that for ?
* Why still no ISO 50 or 64 ??

OK, the LCD screen is a good improvement, and many good reviews on the AF-Speed

Hey Fredje,

Ik zie wel wat antwoorden, en tegelijk mis ik een aantal relevantere opmerkingen in je mailtje.

- De 5D is full size, omdat het een 5D is. De xxD serie is standaard APS-C, met de mogelijkheid om EF-S lenzen te kunnen handelen, dus de 50D ook. Wil je full size met minimaal dezelfde specs als de 50D dan zul je dus niog even moeten wachten of de introductie van een nieuwe 5D.

- ISO 12800 mag dan vreemd klinken voor een luchtvaartfotograaf, maar als je popconcerten of opera's fotografeert dan is het wel verdraaid handig. Scheelt je een hoop irritante flitsen....

- ISO 50 werkt precies tegenovergesteld als ISO 12800. Jij gebruikt het niet, maar mensen die experimenteren en extreem creatief proberen te zijn kunnen wel eens gebruik maken van lage gevoeligheid (zodat ze de sluiter langer open kunnen laten staan).

Wat ik mis zijn je positieve opmerkingen over de 6.5 beeljes per seconde, de 15 Megapixels, en de mega snelle autofocus.

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Iwan Bogels wrote: Wat ik mis zijn je positieve opmerkingen over de 6.5 beeljes per seconde, de 15 Megapixels, en de mega snelle autofocus.
Iwan de 40D heeft 6.5fps en de 50D 6.3fps, dus dit gaat erop 'achteruit' (hoewel de vraag is of je dat kleine verschil zal merken :wink: ). Desondanks een leuke camera!
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De 40D haalt de 6.5 fps ook vaak niet hoor.

Grappig, best wel een paar concerten gefotografeerd.
ISO 12800 zou ik wel graag een keer willen zien, bij ISO 1600 heb je al heel wat photoshop werk. Bij concerten heb je veel heel fel licht gecombineerd met erg donkere stukken, wordt lijkt mij erg lelijk met hoge ISO settings.
Ik gebruik zelf een 50mm/1.8 in Tv met 1/30 of 1/50, belichting -1 ISO400 of 800,
is als je goed staat/zit net geen trilling in de camera, maar een F 2.2 of 3.0 die dan voldoende scherpte diepte geeft om een heel gezicht of instrument scherp te kijgen.
Volgende keer met een 17-85 met IS, zodat 1/10 sec moet gaan lukken.

ISO 50 ....
Goed voorbeeld was het proefdraaien met de Constellation op Lelystad een maand of 3 geleden.
Felle zon op licht platform, maar met de lage RPM, wilde ik toch propblur krijgen. dat werd F29, dat had ik graag wat lager gehad.


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for those interested in the full frame sensor:

Rumours say the new 5D Mark II will come soon and have a mega-pixels full frame sensor ... :wink:
personally I love the 1.6x crop factor on the APS-C sensor camera's.

Why need for a full frame mega pukkel sensor with today's APS-C image qualities ?

Could somebody tell me we franticly search for mega pixels since the latter of our photo's need scaling down for the purposes we use them for ? (internet publishing, small prints etc ?)

and: the high ISO capability is also a proof of the quality enhancement from the sensor manufacturers...
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FALCONCREST wrote:Why need for a full frame mega pukkel sensor with today's APS-C image qualities ?
Probably I am one of the few that would like to have a FF-sensor on the xxD series. My lenses will be more effective regarding to the range. I am looking for a lens with a +/- 17 to 100mm range for a2a photography, with L quality from Canon. A 24-105 on a FF-sensor would be the perfect lens for that.

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Re: 50D versus 5D

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wright flyer wrote:
FALCONCREST wrote:Why need for a full frame mega pukkel sensor with today's APS-C image qualities ?
Probably I am one of the few that would like to have a FF-sensor on the xxD series. My lenses will be more effective regarding to the range. I am looking for a lens with a +/- 17 to 100mm range for a2a photography, with L quality from Canon. A 24-105 on a FF-sensor would be the perfect lens for that.

Aviation photography is not always about big lenses!

gr Frank

Amen to that !

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Interesting topic, certainly because I'm considering to buy one of the two camera's. Let's pretend in this matter money isn't a factor, wich of the two mentioned (Canon 40D or 50D) should I choose, considering that I use the camera mostly for aviation- and naturephotography?

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Re: 50D versus 5D

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wright flyer wrote:
FALCONCREST wrote:Why need for a full frame mega pukkel sensor with today's APS-C image qualities ?
Probably I am one of the few that would like to have a FF-sensor on the xxD series. My lenses will be more effective regarding to the range. I am looking for a lens with a +/- 17 to 100mm range for a2a photography, with L quality from Canon. A 24-105 on a FF-sensor would be the perfect lens for that.

Aviation photography is not always about big lenses!

gr Frank
Why not buy the 5D(II) then? FF and not the price of a 1Ds.
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I'd opt for the 40D, since it quite a bit cheaper and I don't think there are any improvements (except for the better AF, but the old one is all right, I think). Save money on the 50D and put it in a jar for a 5D2 (once), or invest in lenses.
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