LOG Crete 18 Oct. -> 25 Oct.

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:58

Seen during a non spotting (

) holiday last week:

Heraklion 18-10-07

NF-5B 4027 stored
F-5A 13371 preserved gate
RF-84F 52-7468 preserved barracks
AB205A 4399 358 MED

Souda Bay 22-10-07

F-4E 68-0424 preserved gate
F-84F 36745 preserved gate
F-84F 11815 preserved
T-33A 58683 preserved gate
T-33A 11x stored next to runway
A310 dark grey (GAF or CAF?), departing
G1159 Seen in US Compound

Kastelli 24-10-07

F-5A 69133 preserved gate
T-33A 58596/TR-596 stored next to taxiway
F-16C 2x red tailstripe (341 Mira?)
The two F-16's were not seen at Kastelli, but some 20 minutes after we left leaving Kastelli towards the north.....

During the flight from Iraklion to Amsterdam we were traced by a C-17A of what looked like the HI ANG, heading towards the Uk. So anyone for the winning number?

Cheers,

Jappie · Post by **Jappie** » 27 Oct 2007, 10:15

Hi there

seen on 26-10-2007

Kc-135 usaf
Kc-135 usaf
C-17 91192
E-3 usaf
Wb-57 Nasa

Greetz Jappie

Wijgert IJlst · Post by **Wijgert IJlst** » 23 Sep 2008, 22:16

Melchior Timmers wrote:Kastelli 24-10-07

F-5A 69133 preserved gate
T-33A 58596/TR-596 stored next to taxiway

Hi Melchior,

Did you read of the serial of the T-bird your self, or only the code?
There should be two codes TR-596 in the (ex-)HAF inventory.
Both have a history on Souda (Crete). The later one, 58596, has a l/n oct'07 as stored on Souda along with 10 others on the taxitrack near the end of the runway of Souda.
On the 3rd of September I noted a T-33 at Kasteli inside revetment #2, nose facing the taxitrack.
You can get a clear view of the aircraft on the road heading from Kasteli to the Lassithi plateau. Just outside the village of Kasteli there is a curving road heading up to the mountains. In the first sharp curve (hairpin bend), near a small village uphill, you can park your car and overlook the airbase from quite a distance. As it was the middle of the day the heathaze did not permit my to positively ID the T-33. Only the code could have been an option with a good binoculair, I only managed to read of "TR-58." and was not sure about the 8 aswell. So might aswell be TR-596 as you state Melchior. So I hope you can confirm you read off the FMS serial on her tail aswell.

Cheers!

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 24 Sep 2008, 12:02

Wijgert,

I saw the plane from very near (see picture, we drove the green road) but only read the code TR-596...

Cheers,

Wijgert IJlst · Post by **Wijgert IJlst** » 24 Sep 2008, 12:20

Thx Melchior! Okay, then it still is a mistery what ID it will be. Seems like they use it as a tug-tow object. When I noted it, it was parked in revetment #2, and on the same Google Earth picture you can see it parked a few revetments down to the south along the taxitrack.

Let's hope some one will read her FMS on the tail some day...
Thanks any way.

Tim Jones · Post by **Tim Jones** » 24 Sep 2008, 17:03

Can the preserved aircraft be easily seen? Other than the T-33 are there any other dumped stored aircraft at Heraklion?

Thanks,

Tim.

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 25 Sep 2008, 10:50

Tim,

Other than the stored T-33, Kastelli has F-5 69133 on display at the gate.
At Heraklion you can find:
NF-5B 4027 stored
F-5A 13371 preserved gate
RF-84F 52-7468 preserved barracks

Cheers,

Tim Jones · Post by **Tim Jones** » 25 Sep 2008, 18:51

Thanks very much for you help M.

Cheers,

Tim.

Tim Jones · Post by **Tim Jones** » 27 Sep 2008, 16:45

Does anybody have any info on the T-33 at Sitia? Is it still there? Also the T-33 at Timbaki. Both on Crete.

Does anyone know of any other W&R on the island other than the stuff covered in this topic?

I know also of maleme.

Thanks,

Tim.

Carlos Geurts · Post by **Carlos Geurts** » 30 Sep 2008, 01:01

Wijgert,

What did you see at Kastelli, Timbaki and Maleme exactly?

I am very interested for an upcoming article in AIM (Spotting Group Volkel magazine).

TIA.

Carlos Geurts
SGV

Wijgert IJlst · Post by **Wijgert IJlst** » 30 Sep 2008, 08:21

Carlos,

I did not visit Timbaki (have been told al T-33 should be preserved on a roundabout in town). At Kasteli I have seen the pres. F-5 on the gate and the stored/GIA T-33 in revetment #2. On a second visit I also noted 4 F-16's. At Maleme the known preserved aircraft wear noted.
Futhermore I payed a visit to Souda and Heraklion.

It was "just" a normal holiday on Crete with my girlfriend, and all the spotting I did was some kind of bonus for me. Still have to make a small log. What kind of info are you looking for? GPS coordinates? Or only the report? When is the closure date for the AIM-magazine?

Carlos Geurts · Post by **Carlos Geurts** » 30 Sep 2008, 21:31

Wijgert,

Please can you sent me a personal message at : car.geurts@planet.nl

I still have some more questions though, thanks in advance.

The article for the section "Follow Me" in AIM is due for 2008/4 so there is still some time left!

Kindly greetings,

Carlos Geurts
SGV

Tim Jones · Post by **Tim Jones** » 01 Nov 2008, 11:25

Is F-5 4027 easily seen at Heraklion? Can it be seen from the Terminal?

many thanks,

Tim.

Melchior Timmers · Post by **Melchior Timmers** » 01 Nov 2008, 12:18

If it is still where it was all the time, you can not miss it, it can be easily seen from the terminal and from the airplane.

Cheers,

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