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Thoughts after FedEx mishap in Texas

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[Edit: split from this one]

Landing an aircraft seems to be a weakness at Fedex. Not the first one that goes down in a landing. :?
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I believe a FedEx crew landed a MD11 with a full loss of hydraulics..so those guys know how to land!

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patrick@tediek.com wrote:Landing an aircraft seems to be a weakness at Fedex. Not the first one that goes down in a landing. :?
I wouldn't say that its just Fedex. The majority of all aircraft accidents occur during takeoff and landing, simply because you're close to the ground and therefore have little time to react and correct the problem.
A study by Boeing covering commercial jet accidents between 1998 and 2007 shows that 33% of all fatal accidents occur during the final approach and landing phases of flight, and although non-fatal accidents are not included in their study, I'd estimate the percentage to be higher if they were.
Nickdj wrote:I believe a FedEx crew landed a MD11 with a full loss of hydraulics..so those guys know how to land!
I can't recall any incidents involving complete hydraulic failure on a MD-11 (although I could be mistaken). To my understanding the lessons learned from the Sioux City DC-10 crash in 1989 were incorporated in the MD-11 design.

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My msg was a bit sarcastic non factual but i pulled out a few examples.

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26/07/2002.The aircraft [N497FE] crashed at 5:43am local time while attempting to land at Tallahassee Regional Airport on a cargo flight from Memphis, TN. With the Tallahassee Airport control tower closed due to the early-morning hour, the flight crew received clearance from Jacksonville Center for a visual approach to runway 9 at 5:36am. The first impact mark was on a tree, about 70 feet high and 3,100 feet from the end of the runway. The plane first hit the ground about 2,100 feet from the end of the runway, and the first piece of wreckage - a leading edge flap - was found approximately 200 feet from the initial tree-strike point. The aircraft's landing gear was down at the time of the accident. The 727 skidded to a stop about 1,000 feet from the end of the runway and caught fire; the flight crew escaped major injury.

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18 december 2003. The aircraft [N364FE], on a scheduled cargo flight from Oakland, California, crashed at 12:30pm local time while attempting to land on runway 36R at Memphis International Airport. For undetermined reasons, the freighter's landing gear failed, and the aircraft skidded approximately 3,000 feet, off the runway, coming to rest at a 90° angle to the runway heading. The aircraft was consumed by fire. One crewmember was hospitalized with broken bones; the other six escaped uninjured.

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19 september 2004. The approach to landing was normal, and the crew stated that the touchdown was firm but not categorized as a hard landing. The airplane pitched up and bounced after touchdown and the captain became concerned that the airplane would porpoise. The speed had decreased to 107 knots, and reverse thrust had been initiated. The captain elected to conduct a go-around maneuver, and rotated the airplane to a nose high attitude of about 12 degrees prior to achieving sufficient airspeed and a positive rate of climb. The rear fuselage of the airplane contacted the runway for about 3,000 to 4,000 feet causing substantial damage to the airframe.
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DC-10 Stewart - - undeclared Haz caused fire, crew landed
MD-11 Newark - - wing fell off during landing, rolled inverted
MD-11 Subic Bay - - airspeed malfunction, fast landing, overrun into bay
MD-10 Memphis - - crosswind landing, main gear collapsed
727 Tallahassee - - night, non-precision into black hole effect, landed short
MD-10 Memphis - - unknown


don't get me wrong, I like fedex, once again my msg was originally a bit sarcastic as when i read it, the thought of earlier landing incidents popped up.
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